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Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
March 16 2015 10:42 GMT
#201
so the group stages are finally done, its going to be SL vs SA, bangladesh vs india, aus v pakistan and WI vs NZ. Bangladesh vs India and WI against NZ seems they might extremely one sided, the other two are much more interesting imo
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13424 Posts
March 16 2015 11:03 GMT
#202
Yeah Pakistan always plays well in aus.

If Sri Lanka bats first and posts a big total they're a big chance.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 11:25:37
March 16 2015 11:16 GMT
#203
Australia should throttle us pretty easily. On paper man for man they are way better than us. We have a ragtag bunch of second stringers who have really only beaten SA who had a bad game. Our only hope is that the Aussies go hard at us like they did NZ and our pace attack takes them by surprise. Even then the pace battery on the Aussie side is way beyond anything our batsmen are capable of handling.

As for us playing well in Australia. Not sure where that comes from but our record in Aus and South Africa has always been beyond miserable.

Additionally none of the players in this squad have played in Aus before this WC except Umar Akmal let alone playing Australia in Australia. The only thing going for us is that we have played at the Oval twice in this world cup so we will atleast have some familiarity.

That having been said familiarity gained against Irelands dibbly dobbly piss bowling attack is like preparing to wrestle a lion by petting a mouse.

And mind you the WI are a very scary one day team. That game is in no way a wash.

All this having been said I am actually of to NZ and Australia this weekend to watch both semi's and the final so I'll be praying for a miracle. Would be a dream to watch an India Pak semi in Sydney.
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
March 16 2015 11:52 GMT
#204
We're going to have to disagree on WI, i really dont rate them whatsoever. You can only play what's in front of you but even the games they won comfortably they look whatever, maybe your perception of them is because pakistan lost to them so badly? or maybe you've just watched them more than me.

WI are a team that will beat the teams they're better than and lose to teams they're not as good as, I never feel they can cause an upset, whereas Pakistan (who is a better but similiar level team) has shown that they do they have 'another level' (awful cliche) they can get to in desperation.

India playing at the SCG is always super fun so you'll definitely have a good time. Although it would much funnier if Bangladesh knock them out after knocking out England
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 12:45:02
March 16 2015 12:22 GMT
#205
On March 16 2015 20:52 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
We're going to have to disagree on WI, i really dont rate them whatsoever. You can only play what's in front of you but even the games they won comfortably they look whatever, maybe your perception of them is because pakistan lost to them so badly? or maybe you've just watched them more than me.

WI are a team that will beat the teams they're better than and lose to teams they're not as good as, I never feel they can cause an upset, whereas Pakistan (who is a better but similiar level team) has shown that they do they have 'another level' (awful cliche) they can get to in desperation.

India playing at the SCG is always super fun so you'll definitely have a good time. Although it would much funnier if Bangladesh knock them out after knocking out England


No, us losing badly has nothing to do with it. I live in Washington DC and wake up at 4 am after getting out of work at 9 or 10pm just to watch a random bi lateral series. It would be pretty sad if I were to make that connection.

Losing a game where we missed our lengths and let every player get 60-80 odd and then proceeded to knick everything on or outside off stump doesnt make the Windies a special team or anything.

While the form in the WC in important alot of it goes out the window in the knockouts. My reasoning is a bit different.

They are good with the new ball and their batting while shaky is destructive if it gets set. The measure of how good a chance a team has to win an ODI game comes down to how many "weapons" they have and pressure.

The Windies dont know what the word pressure means. But they can also be too casual. NZ on the other hand, well it will keep getting worse for them. I mean when was the last team a NZ team had the same sort of expectation as the All blacks. Ill tell you. Never. Its a new place for them. It will be hard, and they are already showing some signs from the Bangladesh game. Its not about how well you peak its about when you peak. So the knockouts is where the real world cup starts. (minus England lol)

If you look at Ausralia for example all the way down to 10 the team is full of them at every facet of the game.

The WI might be even more inconsistent than we are but they too have weapons that go all the way down to 10. Teams like these you cannot write off.

Where they lose out is that they recently just havent had the kind of fire you need.

Maybe you are under rating them because they got thrashed by South Africa, but the India game there were serious jitters and the first two games they lost to Ireland and SA were not indicative of the teams real capability.

They also bat all the way down to number 10 where you have Andre Russel coming in. And have good balance and options in their bowling. Albeit some weaknesses.

You can have them 7 down for a 100 and then A Russel - Sammy partnership will take them to 250+ or even 300.


Dont get me wrong NZ will prob win, but it will be a competitive game.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13424 Posts
March 16 2015 23:58 GMT
#206
NZ is an interesting case. Their batting looks pretty shaky past the top 4. If you can get mccullum and say guptil out cheaply I think they're really vulnerable.

But their bowlers have been awesome in the NZ conditions which is a huge advantage.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13998 Posts
March 17 2015 06:57 GMT
#207
New Zealand v West Indies should be an extremely easy win for New Zealand, I see Baz and Williamson winning it..
India v Bangladesh should also be an easy win, but Bangladesh have improved drastically throughout the tournament.
Pakistan v Australia, with Pakistani heritage, this is the match I look forward to the most, but Aus look really good right now
South Africa v Sri Lanka, this might be the most balanced match, as without KS and ABD these teams are pretty shaky

New Zealand v Sri Lanka NZ continue their win streak vs Lanka
Pakistan v India, Its a World Cup, we know how it will end

New Zealand v India New Zealand are better suited to the conditions I feel, though India have found their touch in the conditions through the WC, New Zealands quicks are a force to be reckoned with, and as such, I believe will win them the game.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13424 Posts
March 17 2015 09:59 GMT
#208
Final is in Aus don't forget. NZ quicks won't be anywhere near as effective here.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 17 2015 11:59 GMT
#209
You play with the wrong ball and the pitches are terrible outside of England
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13998 Posts
March 17 2015 16:00 GMT
#210
On March 17 2015 18:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Final is in Aus don't forget. NZ quicks won't be anywhere near as effective here.

just to refresh my memory, NZ v Aus was played in NZ right?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
March 17 2015 16:04 GMT
#211
On March 18 2015 01:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 18:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Final is in Aus don't forget. NZ quicks won't be anywhere near as effective here.

just to refresh my memory, NZ v Aus was played in NZ right?

yea, in Eden Park
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 16:08:38
March 17 2015 16:07 GMT
#212
On March 18 2015 01:04 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 01:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 17 2015 18:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Final is in Aus don't forget. NZ quicks won't be anywhere near as effective here.

just to refresh my memory, NZ v Aus was played in NZ right?

yea, in Eden Park


I'll be there ! I have a day before the game. My nephew is flying in from Pak im coming in from DC any ideas for activities ?
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
March 17 2015 16:39 GMT
#213
On March 18 2015 01:07 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 01:04 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
On March 18 2015 01:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 17 2015 18:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Final is in Aus don't forget. NZ quicks won't be anywhere near as effective here.

just to refresh my memory, NZ v Aus was played in NZ right?

yea, in Eden Park

I'll be there ! I have a day before the game. My nephew is flying in from Pak im coming in from DC any ideas for activities ?

you're going to have ask a kiwi, ive only been to auckland once when i was 12 lol
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
March 17 2015 16:58 GMT
#214
On March 18 2015 01:39 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 01:07 Rebs wrote:
On March 18 2015 01:04 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
On March 18 2015 01:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 17 2015 18:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Final is in Aus don't forget. NZ quicks won't be anywhere near as effective here.

just to refresh my memory, NZ v Aus was played in NZ right?

yea, in Eden Park

I'll be there ! I have a day before the game. My nephew is flying in from Pak im coming in from DC any ideas for activities ?

you're going to have ask a kiwi, ive only been to auckland once when i was 12 lol


Well I know a few aussies who work with me here and plenty of friends in Melbourne and Sydney so I am set there. Sadly I know 0 people from New Zealand, and I dont really have time for touristy. islandy stuff just like places to hang out is what im looking for and maybe something a 15 year old + Show Spoiler +
who is cricket crazy
will enjoy. Im sure they have plenty of activities lined up. This is about as much tourism they are going to get.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13998 Posts
March 17 2015 17:21 GMT
#215
On March 18 2015 01:58 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 01:39 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
On March 18 2015 01:07 Rebs wrote:
On March 18 2015 01:04 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
On March 18 2015 01:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 17 2015 18:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Final is in Aus don't forget. NZ quicks won't be anywhere near as effective here.

just to refresh my memory, NZ v Aus was played in NZ right?

yea, in Eden Park

I'll be there ! I have a day before the game. My nephew is flying in from Pak im coming in from DC any ideas for activities ?

you're going to have ask a kiwi, ive only been to auckland once when i was 12 lol


Well I know a few aussies who work with me here and plenty of friends in Melbourne and Sydney so I am set there. Sadly I know 0 people from New Zealand, and I dont really have time for touristy. islandy stuff just like places to hang out is what im looking for and maybe something a 15 year old + Show Spoiler +
who is cricket crazy
will enjoy. Im sure they have plenty of activities lined up. This is about as much tourism they are going to get.

sorry, I have fam in Aus but none in NZ, maybe check out the Shire? The lord of the rings set?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Nagvalk
Profile Joined June 2011
South Africa220 Posts
March 18 2015 04:33 GMT
#216
The English cricket team visited an orphanage outside Sydney. "It is very sad to see such despair and hopelessness" said Timmy, age 6.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
March 18 2015 06:20 GMT
#217
JP With the hat trick. 6 wickets to spin. Hopefully this convinces our stubborn ass think tank to play Yasir Shah and not that useless Ehsan Adli.

Also now if we get embarrassed by Australia it wont just be us.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13424 Posts
March 18 2015 06:34 GMT
#218
Argh, Sri Lanka...
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland764 Posts
March 18 2015 06:45 GMT
#219
It's been 2 years since I visited AUS or NZ and I strangely enjoyed the game there, even though I've never seen it before. Well, it was more the stuff around the game (meetings/watching in Pubs, watching on TV in Hotel room, socializing with ppl on the bus station talking about the game, etc.) that got me interested, but I disgress - I'm kinda interested in watching again. But I don't know how, so perhaps someone can help me out (via PM if you prefer).

Is there a way to watch the games online ? Like any TV station broadcasting, when you are currently traveling in the Netherlands and Germany ? Or any streams ?
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
March 18 2015 06:46 GMT
#220
ooft, i didnt see it but how did the hell did SL only get 133?
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