EPT@L_Master: Just go for the meet. And just start conservative for your first attempt. Like something you can do for a triple is absolutely ok for a first meet.
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Malinor
Germany4728 Posts
@L_Master: Just go for the meet. And just start conservative for your first attempt. Like something you can do for a triple is absolutely ok for a first meet. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On December 28 2017 10:27 IgnE wrote: what the fuck? The best part is he tries two more times...and the audience and spotters seem to think it will make a difference :D I'm doubting he felt very good the next morning. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On December 28 2017 11:19 L_Master wrote: The best part is he tries two more times...and the audience and spotters seem to think it will make a difference :D I'm doubting he felt very good the next morning. that doesn't explain anything. how can anyone there think he actually benches 700 lbs? it's performance art right? | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On December 28 2017 13:14 IgnE wrote: that doesn't explain anything. how can anyone there think he actually benches 700 lbs? it's performance art right? Clearly he doesn't bench 700. He probably thinks he does though, especially because there is a video of him benching 700 something with like 5 spotters, who probably all told him "I didn't help bro" or something. I'd guess that came first and then he was like "well maybe I should do this publicly". The audience is probably made up of some fanboys that believe everything he says, and then some people curious to see if this is real that likely immediately recognized he can't do anywhere near that weight. The spotters...probably delusional friends or maybe they were just paid to be there and are letting the guy be as stupid as he wants to be. | ||
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mordek
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FFGenerations
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lets do better this year! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/COwAN3a.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/XW20Feg.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/BwnVlP3.jpg) | ||
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L_Master
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-Setup, to me, looks decent though I think I could start just a little closer to the bar and be a little tighter with lats -Looks like I'm not bringing hips all the way through to lockout position -Possibly a result of bar a smidge away at setup, but it looks like my lowering path is a little outwards -FUCK hexagonal plates (or however many f***ing sides these have), got to lift with bumper plates when I was home from Christmas.....that was soooooo nice  Thoughts? | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
My guess is I could run sub 5 somewhere around 70-75kg, bigger than 75kg and it gets dicey. So the main question is will I be able to work my way to a total like that at the lower end of 165 class. That fairly lean/skinny pic of me I posted earlier was me at 64.5 kg, so if I added 4kg of muscle in these first 4 months, and wanted to cut down a bit leaner than that I'd likely be somewhere between 66-70kg at around 8% or so. Which is good because at best I'll be around 800-900 total at that lighter weight, so I definitely need room to grow if I'm going to find another 300-400 lbs. | ||
zatic
Zurich15353 Posts
In Jan-Feb I was still very fit for/from skiing but got very little lifting in. Did run a 5k PR in Feb at 22:15 though which was nice. Most of the summer I didn't do much lifting at all and working much of the year in the US didn't really help on the diet part either and I was in awful shape September-ish. That's when I picked it up again with healthy diet and 3-5x gym per week. 3 "main" lifting days (basically all legs and back) to get back in skiing shape and if there was time assorted upper body in between without any real program. Fairly successful and managed to get the first DL PR (155kg x 6) out of it since 2014. Even have a video: Target was 5 reps but focussed so much on the lift that I didn't count and at 4 reps thought that was only 3 so I actually did 6. Lockout on the last 2 looks shaky and honestly I have no idea what was going on there. Only noticed watching the video, felt fine during the lift. Since then of course I spend a month eating and daydrinking so starting today the rebuilding begins so I am fit for skiing end of the month. is peanuts still around? If now, who wants to volunteer to open a 2018 thread? | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On January 04 2018 13:32 L_Master wrote: As an aside, and I'm not sure that's a this year goal, I'm rather interested in the idea of trying to run a sub 5:00 mile, while also totaling 1200 (originally the idea was bench 300, but fuck bench, deadlifting is way cooler) on the same day. My guess is I could run sub 5 somewhere around 70-75kg, bigger than 75kg and it gets dicey. So the main question is will I be able to work my way to a total like that at the lower end of 165 class. That fairly lean/skinny pic of me I posted earlier was me at 64.5 kg, so if I added 4kg of muscle in these first 4 months, and wanted to cut down a bit leaner than that I'd likely be somewhere between 66-70kg at around 8% or so. Which is good because at best I'll be around 800-900 total at that lighter weight, so I definitely need room to grow if I'm going to find another 300-400 lbs. 1200 at 70 kg is a 407 wilks score, which is "serious powerlifter, competitive at local meets" range. At 66, its a 427. Check out this article on how weight classes are really height classes: https://www.strongerbyscience.com/which-weight-class-is-best-for-you/ the nationally qualifying guys (~450 wilks) for the 67kg class are about 5'6, and in the 75kg class they're only a touch over 5'7. Also keep in mind these guys are actually lifting at a higher weight - lots of powerlifting meets have 24 hour weigh ins, so you can rehydrate/carb up 3-5% bodyweight between the weigh in and the lift. They may actually be putting up these numbers as high as 79kg or so. All I'm saying here is 1200 at those weights is ambitious but it's not ridiculous. It's going to take some serious work for a long period of time to put up those numbers while maintaining the cardio to run a sub-5 mile though. (Unrelated note:fuck that article because I "should" be a superheavy and I just don't want to. Being able to see my toes is more important than a big total sorry. 242 by 2019 tho.) 8% bodyfat is quite low. Most powerlifters will see their performance take a significant hit getting that low. You'll probably see better performance in the 10-12% range, especially without steroids and doubly so without a lot of practice prepping for meet conditions. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4728 Posts
On January 04 2018 13:23 L_Master wrote: Last set of 3x5x275 today deadlift. Didn't move fast, but I felt like I had at least one more rep left in the tank. Feeling pretty optimistic about my chances of getting 3 plates here this month (for a single) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTLcWNTx6KQ -Setup, to me, looks decent though I think I could start just a little closer to the bar and be a little tighter with lats -Looks like I'm not bringing hips all the way through to lockout position -Possibly a result of bar a smidge away at setup, but it looks like my lowering path is a little outwards -FUCK hexagonal plates (or however many f***ing sides these have), got to lift with bumper plates when I was home from Christmas.....that was soooooo nice Thoughts? Look straight forward Think 'Chest Up' Do these two for every rep. These are to me the two most important cues. But your form looks decent enough already. But so easy to improve even more. It is 12 sides per plate. And you are dealing with it really well, I would already have punched somebody after the 3rd rep. Seriously, you won't find many people in an international meet that look down while Deadlifting. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Look straight forward Think 'Chest Up' Sweet. Will do. On January 05 2018 06:44 phyre112 wrote: 1200 at 70 kg is a 407 wilks score, which is "serious powerlifter, competitive at local meets" range. At 66, its a 427. Check out this article on how weight classes are really height classes: https://www.strongerbyscience.com/which-weight-class-is-best-for-you/ the nationally qualifying guys (~450 wilks) for the 67kg class are about 5'6, and in the 75kg class they're only a touch over 5'7. Also keep in mind these guys are actually lifting at a higher weight - lots of powerlifting meets have 24 hour weigh ins, so you can rehydrate/carb up 3-5% bodyweight between the weigh in and the lift. They may actually be putting up these numbers as high as 79kg or so. All I'm saying here is 1200 at those weights is ambitious but it's not ridiculous. It's going to take some serious work for a long period of time to put up those numbers while maintaining the cardio to run a sub-5 mile though. (Unrelated note:fuck that article because I "should" be a superheavy and I just don't want to. Being able to see my toes is more important than a big total sorry. 242 by 2019 tho.) 8% bodyfat is quite low. Most powerlifters will see their performance take a significant hit getting that low. You'll probably see better performance in the 10-12% range, especially without steroids and doubly so without a lot of practice prepping for meet conditions. Yea, 8% is low, but my perspective is basically this: With something running related or cycling uphill (flat cycling is different) weight, in absolute terms, matters. So for running I need to be as light as I can and still able to run the target time. Given that, I think my best chance would be at say 73kg and 8% BF, as opposed to 73kg and 12% bodyfat. From a pure lifting standpoint, it's easy for me to understand why guys would compete the best around that range. It's not so lean you're getting weak from being at the razor's edge of sustainable bodyfat, but plenty lean enough to avoid dead weight in fat form. I'm 5'8", so that puts me at a little over 75kg by those standards you listed. My guess is that at 70kg a sub 5 mile is a shoe in, 73kg probably could get it with a good training cycle focused on running, and at 75-77kg it would be pretty hard. Doubtful I could do it heavier. Guess I'll have a better idea how long a goal like this might take after I get my chance to run next full training cycle in a deficit. Getting the cardio in won't be a problem, as I'm continuing to ride bikes between 5-15 hours a week. This is, or will eventually, have a negative impact on my ability to make gym progress, but hopefully not too much. Right now, the main issue is I can't sqwaat much without it fucking up my ability to train. I still have some racing I want to do if I can in spring/summer, so sqwaats are probably on the back burner till summer. Hit summer and I can cut out a bike workout or two a week to enable squatting. Anything else is just a question of how much the cycling impacts recovery. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 06 2018 11:25 mordek wrote: Where's needsmorecelltech to call us all out on progress pics. Did we even do that last year? I could take one. Am fat now though. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/zRhq7D3.jpg) Front Flexed: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Wu1qTn7.png) Back Flexed: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/LP7Uow6.png) Not too bad for four months. That's from 70kg to 78kg. Probably a bit on the dirty bulk side of things, but I wanted to err on the side of making sure I had enough. Lifts went from (all 5RMs, more extensive testing coming in mid Feb): BB Row: 95lbs -> 190lbs Sqwaat: 115lbs -> 205lbs Bench: 95lbs -> 195lbs Deadlift: 155lbs -> 275lbs Pull Up: BWx4 -> BW + 45lbs | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
Went to my first cycling (spin) class in 10 years. Managed to hang in there and get through most of the challenges. I regretted doing squats yesterday but feel pretty good about it now Well it ain't much but I got a pretty good comparison of a little over a year ago. Not much in terms of progress, I actually weigh 10lb less now but some injuries throughout the year, getting a professional certification and baby number 3 arriving any day will do that. + Show Spoiler [progress pics] + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/oXv3wIf.png) | ||
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