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SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
November 06 2014 13:53 GMT
#1461
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
November 06 2014 13:55 GMT
#1462
Yeah that is true, also Ronaldo didn't score vs Liverpool i think that is worthy of not allowing him this years Ballon d'Or ^_^
Embarrassing that how he didn't score in the 2nd game they played Q_Q made Liverpool look better than they were XD
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 06 2014 14:04 GMT
#1463
On November 06 2014 22:53 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 21:29 Pandemona wrote:
On November 06 2014 21:20 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 20:55 Faruko wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:31 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:58 Ferrose wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:48 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:44 Rebs wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:33 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:26 Rebs wrote:
[quote]

Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..


That's sarcasm right? xD


ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..


I'm flabbergasted.
Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is.
Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.



By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"

And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...


Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean.
Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!


Messi has been terrible all season (which terrible for him means still amazing lol)

The last few gamea (Celta, RM and PSG) he WALKED the entire match, showed little care about it and did absolutely nothing

And no, he doesnt do everything, he shows little to no interest in helping in defense this season (last year too), in that regard Ronaldo, Alexis and Rooney are much much better

And he needa to do it nowadays, few years ago it wasnt a problem as Xavi and Iniesta were fit and could take care of that, they cant anymore and their subs arent up to the task, busquets and Rakitic and good, but nowhere near Xavi/Iniesta

But the problem is Luis Enrique :p he just doesnt find the team (and some said that anyone could lead this players back in Guardiola time)


No he hasn't.
Messi is playing phenomenally, only thing kinda lacking is his finishing which is expected since he plays deep now.
I mean, literally the only reason barca are doing anything is because of messi.
He has either scored or assisted 97% of all barca goals this season.
But wait a minute, he needs to run more, right?

Maybe its because Ronaldo has more goals this season and had more goals last season than Messi? Maybe it is a simple as that as to how FIFA give the Ballon d'Or out to these two due to how good they both are lol? Plus last season Messi won a runners up medal in the World Cup and La Liga vs Ronaldo who won Champions League final.

For those who want to know
2013-2014
Messi 46games 41goals (all comps)
Ronaldo 47games 51goals (all comps)
2014-2015
Messi 14games 11goals (all comps)
Ronaldo 16games 22goals (all comps)

Both are stupidly good records but Ronaldo "better" in these tiny aspects. Of course if you go back to the other two seasons, Messi wins in the goal scoring and got the award? Rightfully so on the basis too xD

Messi also won the most undeserved "player of tournament" award ever awarded at the World Cup.


If you say so mate.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 06 2014 14:08 GMT
#1464
Oh and to put things in perspective.
This supposedly best cristiano season is light years behind messi's best season. He needs to score 41, that's not a typo, 41 goals in the remaining 8 games to match messi's record.
Messi himself is only 5 goals behind cristiano in 2014 btw, this can ez change.
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ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 14:18:42
November 06 2014 14:16 GMT
#1465
On November 06 2014 23:08 Steveling wrote:
Oh and to put things in perspective.
This supposedly best cristiano season is light years behind messi's best season. He needs to score 41, that's not a typo, 41 goals in the remaining 8 games to match messi's record.
Messi himself is only 5 goals behind cristiano in 2014 btw, this can ez change.


Geez your Messi worship is kinda annoying.

The award is given to the best player during a given year, who is better than other players in that year. Even if Cristiano scored 0 goals throught his whole career prior to year 2014 he's still the best player this year. It's irrelevant what Messi did in his career, that's not what this award is about.

With that in mind Neuer would also be a good candidate for this year's winner. He had great 2nd part of season last year, except the blunder vs RM in CL, has good 1st half of this year's season and was a major part of Germany's WC sucess.

Also this:

On November 06 2014 22:53 SatedSC2 wrote:
Messi also won the most undeserved "player of tournament" award ever awarded at the World Cup.


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
November 06 2014 14:22 GMT
#1466
Where do you get your stats from Steveling, whether that stat is true id like to know where from. Ronaldo is on 73 goals since start of 2013 season where as Messi is on 52. So either Ronaldo started the 2013 season with 17 goals from August - December or your math is wrong :s
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 06 2014 14:35 GMT
#1467
On November 06 2014 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
Where do you get your stats from Steveling, whether that stat is true id like to know where from. Ronaldo is on 73 goals since start of 2013 season where as Messi is on 52. So either Ronaldo started the 2013 season with 17 goals from August - December or your math is wrong :s


2013?
Dude we are in 2014.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
November 06 2014 14:45 GMT
#1468
You didn't get my point.
You said Messi is 5 goals behind Ronaldo in 2014. This season alone (2014-15) Ronaldo has double the goals of Messi so i just wanted to know how you found out that Messi has scored "x" goals in 2014 and Ronaldo scored "x" goals in 2014.

On wikipedia it only breaks it down into how many in each season 2013-2014 & 2014-2015. So was wondering if there was another website for the information.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 06 2014 14:52 GMT
#1469
On November 06 2014 23:45 Pandemona wrote:
You didn't get my point.
You said Messi is 5 goals behind Ronaldo in 2014. This season alone (2014-15) Ronaldo has double the goals of Messi so i just wanted to know how you found out that Messi has scored "x" goals in 2014 and Ronaldo scored "x" goals in 2014.

On wikipedia it only breaks it down into how many in each season 2013-2014 & 2014-2015. So was wondering if there was another website for the information.


@Messistats on twitter is very accurate and the place where I get most of my stats from.



You can see that messi is 5 goals behind and 8 assists ahead.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
November 06 2014 14:52 GMT
#1470
Oh it counts international too. The Wikipedia doesn't count international, i wonder why. Wonder if Ballon d'Or does? Guess it should do.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 14:58:57
November 06 2014 14:57 GMT
#1471
Stats for both (source: RM/Barca websites)
Messi:
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/staff/players/messi/stats (2014-15) - 9 goals
Couldn't get past years from here.

Ronaldo:
http://www.realmadrid.com/en/football/squad/cristiano-ronaldo-dos-santos
Scroll down until you see statistics, select season and then click on more statistics to reveal goals.
2014-15 total is 22 goals, 2013-14 total is showing 51 goals.

Edit: Bah, obviously didn't account for the international goals.
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 06 2014 15:12 GMT
#1472
On November 06 2014 22:53 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 21:29 Pandemona wrote:
On November 06 2014 21:20 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 20:55 Faruko wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:31 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:58 Ferrose wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:48 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:44 Rebs wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:33 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 07:26 Rebs wrote:
[quote]

Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..


That's sarcasm right? xD


ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..


I'm flabbergasted.
Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is.
Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.



By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"

And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...


Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean.
Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!


Messi has been terrible all season (which terrible for him means still amazing lol)

The last few gamea (Celta, RM and PSG) he WALKED the entire match, showed little care about it and did absolutely nothing

And no, he doesnt do everything, he shows little to no interest in helping in defense this season (last year too), in that regard Ronaldo, Alexis and Rooney are much much better

And he needa to do it nowadays, few years ago it wasnt a problem as Xavi and Iniesta were fit and could take care of that, they cant anymore and their subs arent up to the task, busquets and Rakitic and good, but nowhere near Xavi/Iniesta

But the problem is Luis Enrique :p he just doesnt find the team (and some said that anyone could lead this players back in Guardiola time)


No he hasn't.
Messi is playing phenomenally, only thing kinda lacking is his finishing which is expected since he plays deep now.
I mean, literally the only reason barca are doing anything is because of messi.
He has either scored or assisted 97% of all barca goals this season.
But wait a minute, he needs to run more, right?

Maybe its because Ronaldo has more goals this season and had more goals last season than Messi? Maybe it is a simple as that as to how FIFA give the Ballon d'Or out to these two due to how good they both are lol? Plus last season Messi won a runners up medal in the World Cup and La Liga vs Ronaldo who won Champions League final.

For those who want to know
2013-2014
Messi 46games 41goals (all comps)
Ronaldo 47games 51goals (all comps)
2014-2015
Messi 14games 11goals (all comps)
Ronaldo 16games 22goals (all comps)

Both are stupidly good records but Ronaldo "better" in these tiny aspects. Of course if you go back to the other two seasons, Messi wins in the goal scoring and got the award? Rightfully so on the basis too xD


Messi also won the most undeserved "player of tournament" award ever awarded at the World Cup.


The most undeserved was Cannavaro's FIFA World Player of the Year and it's not really close imo.

Guy wasn't even the best CB of Italy in that world cup.

CR will win it this year and it will make it his third (last year was a joke, should be Messi's or someone else) vs Messi's four (one should belong to Xavi really).
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3978 Posts
November 06 2014 15:43 GMT
#1473
On November 06 2014 21:54 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 21:38 Pandemona wrote:
You realize the Ballon d'Or is just 1 YEAR of football right? Not what they have done in their lifetime ? So Messi breaking x or y record over time is good but when you compare to another player who has scored more goals than him and won more trophies THAT YEAR, you have to side with it.
The reason why Neuer will probably win 3rd place is because of that too, or if Ribery makes an appearance in 3rd.

Like i also said, the difference between them both is so small that the things like what they won and how many goals they scored probably plays a part in how the votes go.

It is awarded based on votes by coaches and captains of international teams, as well as journalists from around the world.


Guess we will see what happens.
Messi is better though.

Fanboy alert. I think the Ballon d'Or winners were well deserved every year (for a while at least, I wasn't a big fan of Kaka winning it). From a relatively neutral pov, I'm leaning towards Ronaldo slightly this year.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 06 2014 15:53 GMT
#1474
fuck Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ibrahimovic is the best.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
November 06 2014 15:56 GMT
#1475
wow @messistats is so good! Funny thing is that you can see all stats about C.Ronaldo there too! very impossible to find a table with only one of them xD.
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5589 Posts
November 06 2014 17:58 GMT
#1476
Come on HJK! I believe in miracles!
don't wall off against random
matojeja
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 18:31:10
November 06 2014 18:29 GMT
#1477
Zürich - Villareal. 4 goals in 6min
and Zürich scores again
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 18:34:57
November 06 2014 18:34 GMT
#1478
On November 06 2014 22:41 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 21:54 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 21:38 Pandemona wrote:
You realize the Ballon d'Or is just 1 YEAR of football right? Not what they have done in their lifetime ? So Messi breaking x or y record over time is good but when you compare to another player who has scored more goals than him and won more trophies THAT YEAR, you have to side with it.
The reason why Neuer will probably win 3rd place is because of that too, or if Ribery makes an appearance in 3rd.

Like i also said, the difference between them both is so small that the things like what they won and how many goals they scored probably plays a part in how the votes go.

It is awarded based on votes by coaches and captains of international teams, as well as journalists from around the world.


Guess we will see what happens.
Messi is better though.


I'm a Messi Fan and I kinda dislike CR (even though i'm portuguese), but while I still think that messi is the best Player overall, the season from CR was far more impressive and he should win the Ballon this year.



Thats basically what I was saying and its kinda true. Hard to argue with something slamming goals left and right, whether he is the finisher or whatever. Its the most important thing after winning stuff, since those 2 are always up there really
4mgg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 18:41:25
November 06 2014 18:40 GMT
#1479
Ref down.. HJK TOR
Pulled muscle it seems..

Never saw that before.

EDIT: looks serious enough, he is carried off the pitch on a stretcher and the substitute ref is in
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 06 2014 19:13 GMT
#1480
On November 07 2014 03:34 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 22:41 bObaZ wrote:
On November 06 2014 21:54 Steveling wrote:
On November 06 2014 21:38 Pandemona wrote:
You realize the Ballon d'Or is just 1 YEAR of football right? Not what they have done in their lifetime ? So Messi breaking x or y record over time is good but when you compare to another player who has scored more goals than him and won more trophies THAT YEAR, you have to side with it.
The reason why Neuer will probably win 3rd place is because of that too, or if Ribery makes an appearance in 3rd.

Like i also said, the difference between them both is so small that the things like what they won and how many goals they scored probably plays a part in how the votes go.

It is awarded based on votes by coaches and captains of international teams, as well as journalists from around the world.


Guess we will see what happens.
Messi is better though.


I'm a Messi Fan and I kinda dislike CR (even though i'm portuguese), but while I still think that messi is the best Player overall, the season from CR was far more impressive and he should win the Ballon this year.



Hard to argue with something slamming goals left and right


Didn't you read the previous posts?
He's just 5 goals above messi. Hardly slammed anything towards any direction. xD
I think you are mistaking ballon for the golden boot.
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