On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
They dont give awards to center pieces of teams that dont win anything..
actually they do... at the wc they gave him the golden ball without him winning the tournament or having any kind of outstanding performance
Yeah maybe I shouldve been more specific. Player of the year awards. Not in this meta anyway..
On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"
On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"
And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...
Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean. Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!
these results from english teams are realy strange, arsenal and city doing so bad - i can see liverpool got a little bit ripped apart and their first cl appearance in years..
if arsenal or especially city would sign tuchel and gave him a chance i would be really scared, but i hope magath drew them away from german coaches
On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"
And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...
Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean. Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!
Just because you're a Messi fanboy doesn't mean he should get the reward. Cristiano was the better player throught year 2014 and deserves to win it this year, cause noone else was even close.
Chelsea sucks haha. Drawing with Maribor, that's almost as bad as Arsenal's 3 goal collapse. Especially after Mourinho was promising domination before the game. There is still a slight chance Chelsea doesn't make it to ro16, although they probably will. Doesn't look like english teams can hope for more than ro16 though. Unless it's just a smoke screen and Chelsea are intentionally putting in subpar performances to make the big clubs complacent when they eventually get them in the knockout stages and cruise on the the final!
Chelsea game was quite funny. Oh well im kind of glad for that result. Now Mourinho gets to rape his players and tear them a new one....next up Liverpool ^_^
We play Sporting at home and Schalke away. Unless by some miracle all of Schalke players are fit again i don't see us struggling to get through.
On November 06 2014 17:44 Pandemona wrote: Chelsea game was quite funny. Oh well im kind of glad for that result. Now Mourinho gets to rape his players and tear them a new one....next up Liverpool ^_^
We play Sporting at home and Schalke away. Unless by some miracle all of Schalke players are fit again i don't see us struggling to get through.
I only saw the replay of the Maribor goal, but it looked like Luis really should have done better there. I can see why Azpilicueta is preferred ahead of him.
Btw England are really poor this year. Arsenal struggling was to be expected with all their injuries this year, but Man City is an absolute joke. So much quality and comfortable in the premier league, but can't do shit in the champions league. Year after year. To think Pelegrini even said he felt City deserved to be in Pot1.
But yeah he needed to be closed down more, same with the goal we concede vs QPR, JT was to slow and didn't try to stop the original cross. Then deflection goal and 1-1. It's fine though, im looking forward to watching Chelsea after the next international break, when we go from November 22nd to like February of straight games together all the time. This is hopefully when Mourinho gets the team playing their best.
On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"
And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...
Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean. Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!
Messi has been terrible all season (which terrible for him means still amazing lol)
The last few gamea (Celta, RM and PSG) he WALKED the entire match, showed little care about it and did absolutely nothing
And no, he doesnt do everything, he shows little to no interest in helping in defense this season (last year too), in that regard Ronaldo, Alexis and Rooney are much much better
And he needa to do it nowadays, few years ago it wasnt a problem as Xavi and Iniesta were fit and could take care of that, they cant anymore and their subs arent up to the task, busquets and Rakitic and good, but nowhere near Xavi/Iniesta
But the problem is Luis Enrique :p he just doesnt find the team (and some said that anyone could lead this players back in Guardiola time)
On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"
And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...
Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean. Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!
Messi has been terrible all season (which terrible for him means still amazing lol)
The last few gamea (Celta, RM and PSG) he WALKED the entire match, showed little care about it and did absolutely nothing
And no, he doesnt do everything, he shows little to no interest in helping in defense this season (last year too), in that regard Ronaldo, Alexis and Rooney are much much better
And he needa to do it nowadays, few years ago it wasnt a problem as Xavi and Iniesta were fit and could take care of that, they cant anymore and their subs arent up to the task, busquets and Rakitic and good, but nowhere near Xavi/Iniesta
But the problem is Luis Enrique :p he just doesnt find the team (and some said that anyone could lead this players back in Guardiola time)
No he hasn't. Messi is playing phenomenally, only thing kinda lacking is his finishing which is expected since he plays deep now. I mean, literally the only reason barca are doing anything is because of messi. He has either scored or assisted 97% of all barca goals this season. But wait a minute, he needs to run more, right?
On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"
And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...
Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean. Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!
Messi has been terrible all season (which terrible for him means still amazing lol)
The last few gamea (Celta, RM and PSG) he WALKED the entire match, showed little care about it and did absolutely nothing
And no, he doesnt do everything, he shows little to no interest in helping in defense this season (last year too), in that regard Ronaldo, Alexis and Rooney are much much better
And he needa to do it nowadays, few years ago it wasnt a problem as Xavi and Iniesta were fit and could take care of that, they cant anymore and their subs arent up to the task, busquets and Rakitic and good, but nowhere near Xavi/Iniesta
But the problem is Luis Enrique :p he just doesnt find the team (and some said that anyone could lead this players back in Guardiola time)
No he hasn't. Messi is playing phenomenally, only thing kinda lacking is his finishing which is expected since he plays deep now. I mean, literally the only reason barca are doing anything is because of messi. He has either scored or assisted 97% of all barca goals this season. But wait a minute, he needs to run more, right?
Maybe its because Ronaldo has more goals this season and had more goals last season than Messi? Maybe it is a simple as that as to how FIFA give the Ballon d'Or out to these two due to how good they both are lol? Plus last season Messi won a runners up medal in the World Cup and La Liga vs Ronaldo who won Champions League final.
For those who want to know 2013-2014 Messi 46games 41goals (all comps) Ronaldo 47games 51goals (all comps) 2014-2015 Messi 14games 11goals (all comps) Ronaldo 16games 22goals (all comps)
Both are stupidly good records but Ronaldo "better" in these tiny aspects. Of course if you go back to the other two seasons, Messi wins in the goal scoring and got the award? Rightfully so on the basis too xD
Pande completely ignoring the assist count, xDDDD. Btw messi has scored more CL goals than Cristiano in 17 games less. Also, he has 71 goals and 19 assists in 90 CL games, that's 1 goal per game. I mean, it's not even close. Not to speak of how horrible cristiano is with portugal, messi while extremely fatigued reached a world cup final, a final that hadn't higuain forgot how to play football, they would have won too.
You realize the Ballon d'Or is just 1 YEAR of football right? Not what they have done in their lifetime ? So Messi breaking x or y record over time is good but when you compare to another player who has scored more goals than him and won more trophies THAT YEAR, you have to side with it. The reason why Neuer will probably win 3rd place is because of that too, or if Ribery makes an appearance in 3rd.
Like i also said, the difference between them both is so small that the things like what they won and how many goals they scored probably plays a part in how the votes go.
It is awarded based on votes by coaches and captains of international teams, as well as journalists from around the world.
On November 06 2014 06:46 Steveling wrote: So wait, messi will be CL's first scorer, la liga's first scorer and he's only 7 assists behind Figo for la liga most assists. Just throw him the ballon already.
You and I both know it's gonna be CR. And this year it might actually even be deserved lol
Yeah I'd say it would be plenty deserved..
That's sarcasm right? xD
ummm no, I'd say he gets it for the same reasons Messi has for the past few others. His team won alot and he scored alot of goals..
I'm flabbergasted. Messi was actually the pivotal piece of barca, well, still is. Cristiano just happened to be the guy up front.
By that logic isn't Messi just "the guy up front?"
And Benzema would be that guy for Real Madrid...
Messi is not just a finisher, he can do everything. That's what I mean. Anyway, the best deserve the ballon and messi is the best so get your ass straight platini!
Just because you're a Messi fanboy doesn't mean he should get the reward. Cristiano was the better player throught year 2014 and deserves to win it this year, cause noone else was even close.
Chelsea sucks haha. Drawing with Maribor, that's almost as bad as Arsenal's 3 goal collapse. Especially after Mourinho was promising domination before the game. There is still a slight chance Chelsea doesn't make it to ro16, although they probably will. Doesn't look like english teams can hope for more than ro16 though. Unless it's just a smoke screen and Chelsea are intentionally putting in subpar performances to make the big clubs complacent when they eventually get them in the knockout stages and cruise on the the final!
I hope youre better at sc2 than fotball because this is hilarious. Do you really think chelsea dosnt get higher than ro16??? DO you really think that they just * probably * make it to the round of 16??? LOL
Chelsea have been in 5 of 5 semis the last 5 years. they have the best academy right now whit most good youngsters on loan and have probably the best or second/third best squad. Even real madrid and barca loses time to time.. Chelsea havent lost yet, even if the performances havent been the best we stil manage to NOT LOSE. Premier league is also the hardest league whit most top clubs.
On November 06 2014 21:38 Pandemona wrote: You realize the Ballon d'Or is just 1 YEAR of football right? Not what they have done in their lifetime ? So Messi breaking x or y record over time is good but when you compare to another player who has scored more goals than him and won more trophies THAT YEAR, you have to side with it. The reason why Neuer will probably win 3rd place is because of that too, or if Ribery makes an appearance in 3rd.
Like i also said, the difference between them both is so small that the things like what they won and how many goals they scored probably plays a part in how the votes go.
On November 06 2014 21:38 Pandemona wrote: You realize the Ballon d'Or is just 1 YEAR of football right? Not what they have done in their lifetime ? So Messi breaking x or y record over time is good but when you compare to another player who has scored more goals than him and won more trophies THAT YEAR, you have to side with it. The reason why Neuer will probably win 3rd place is because of that too, or if Ribery makes an appearance in 3rd.
Like i also said, the difference between them both is so small that the things like what they won and how many goals they scored probably plays a part in how the votes go.
It is awarded based on votes by coaches and captains of international teams, as well as journalists from around the world.
Guess we will see what happens. Messi is better though.
I'm a Messi Fan and I kinda dislike CR (even though i'm portuguese), but while I still think that messi is the best Player overall, the season from CR was far more impressive and he should win the Ballon this year.