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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 08 2014 07:12 DannyJ wrote: Ronaldo was smart enough not to put that thing in his mouth. Not for the commercial, but there is a gif of him putting it in his mouth during a talk show. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Legia Warsaw are under investigation after they brought a suspended player on for the last few minutes of their CL third qualifying round tie against Celtic. I don't see why all the blame is being placed on the club. Shouldn't the fourth official, or whoever is in charge of this, look at the lineup sheet before the game and check to make sure everyone on it is eligible to play? | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28927 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
I can confirm that Cavani has heard proposals from Liverpool and Arsenal. He would love to play in England. Cavani would make Arsenal favorite to win PL, he is that good. | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
On August 08 2014 17:56 lprk wrote: Legia is out of CL I remember the season after Milan was convicted of match-fixing and docked points they played against Red Star Belgrade, apparently between the first and second legs UEFA had to come to a decision weather Milan should be allowed to play in that seasons CL. Seeing as how Milan was convicted of match-fixing the previous season and was docked points for the previous and upcoming season you would think it was an open and shut case... Well Milan went on to win the CL that season. Anyway, the moral of the story is: Fuck UEFA. Seriously, fuck those guys. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On August 08 2014 17:56 lprk wrote: Legia is out of CL What utter bullshit. It was such a miner infringement. How is been kicked out of the Champions League more appropriate than a fine? I don’t know. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:39 Greg_J wrote: What utter bullshit. It was such a miner infringement. How is been kicked out of the Champions League more appropriate than a fine? I don’t know. He was banned because of a red card from last season. If you fine the club now that opens the door for every team to get their banned players in when they feel they need him. "Let's see. If we win this cl game with our banned player (cough suarez) it's gonna earn us €1m but we have to pay a fine of 50k. If we draw, we only get 500k." Easy decision. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:47 smr wrote: He was banned because of a red card from last season. If you fine the club now that opens the door for every team to get their banned players in when they feel they need him. "Let's see. If we win this cl game with our banned player (cough suarez) it's gonna earn us €1m but we have to pay a fine of 50k. If we draw, we only get 500k." Easy decision. But shouldn't an UEFA official look at the player list that was put forward and say 'hold on, his ban hasn't expired' before the match? edit: So Celtic goes through even though they lost both matches and ended up 6:1? What a joke. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:47 smr wrote: He was banned because of a red card from last season. If you fine the club now that opens the door for every team to get their banned players in when they feel they need him. "Let's see. If we win this cl game with our banned player (cough suarez) it's gonna earn us €1m but we have to pay a fine of 50k. If we draw, we only get 500k." Easy decision. I see the point your making and it’s fair enough. I just feel for those poor Legia fans. I guess they should direct their anger at their manager for making the world’s stupidest substitution rather than UEFA. It stinks though. edit: I tell you what the Celtic fans are going to go mental at thier new manager if they play that badly again and just get knocked out at the next stage. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:50 zeo wrote: But shouldn't an UEFA official look at the player list that was put forward and say 'hold on, his ban hasn't expired' before the match? That's what I would expect to happen since the beginning of UEFA's existence but apparently they don't (or they made a mistake). Don't understand me wrong Legia totally deserved advancing. I don't know the official ruleset for pre-game preparations so I'd prefer not to comment on what the best action would be. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:51 Greg_J wrote: I see the point your making and it’s fair enough. I just feel for those poor Legia fans. I guess they should direct their anger at their manager for making the world’s stupidest substitution rather than UEFA. It stinks though. edit: I tell you what the Celtic fans are going to go mental at thier new manager if they play that badly again and just get knocked out at the next stage. But he didn't play the three games he was banned for. He got the red card last year and got a three match ban in the CL. After that he didn't play both games against St. Patrick and the first leg against Celtic. Apparently because UEFA saw that he wasn't registered for the two games against Patrick apparently that means he didn't sit out 2 games according to UEFA. | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
Legia vs Celtic 4:4, but Celtic scored more away goals. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:57 zeo wrote: But he didn't play the three games he was banned for. He got the red card last year and got a three match ban in the CL. After that he didn't play both games against St. Patrick and the first leg against Celtic. Apparently because UEFA saw that he wasn't registered for the two games against Patrick apparently that means he didn't sit out 2 games according to UEFA. Wow that is complicated. What does registering mean in that context? Does anybody know about the technicalities? I mean no banned player is ever in the official roster for that game but somewhere in the stands to watch the match. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:57 zeo wrote: But he didn't play the three games he was banned for. He got the red card last year and got a three match ban in the CL. After that he didn't play both games against St. Patrick and the first leg against Celtic. Apparently because UEFA saw that he wasn't registered for the two games against Patrick apparently that means he didn't sit out 2 games according to UEFA. Really, that’s an appalling technicality to be kicked out on if that’s true. SKY news in UK aren't reporting the bit about serving the ban but not been registered. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 08 2014 19:01 smr wrote: Wow that is complicated. What does registering mean in that context? Does anybody know about the techincalities? I mean no banned player is ever in the official roster for that game but somewhere in the stands to watch the match. It means that Legia didn't play football manager.  You need to register your players for European matches, non registered players do not sit out their ban if they aren't registered because in technical terms that would mean a club wouldn't be punished because they still have access to 25 players. I really feel for Legia though, because in actual terms the player wasn't allowed to play so he didn't play. Without the dumb bureaucracy, people would just say he sat out his suspension. It's a dumb technicality to get thrown out of Europe for. Not to mention Legia really handed Celtic a beatdown, Uefa really should be more flexible here. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6344 Posts
On August 08 2014 19:04 Greg_J wrote: Really, that’s an appalling technicality to be kicked out on if that’s true. SKY news in UK aren't reporting the bit about serving the ban but not been registered. Well, he got the 3 match ban on their last European match last season. Since then Legia have played 3 matches in Europe, I mean it is entirely plausible that no one had any idea they would get punished if he played. I know we are getting into murky waters here but at the end of the day he didn't play 3 games. They beat Celtic hard in both games and they were supposed to be the first Polish club to get into the Champions League in 18 years. Ok fine them, but I highly doubt they would put in an illegible player on purpose after they had the match in the bag. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28927 Posts
On August 08 2014 18:47 smr wrote: He was banned because of a red card from last season. If you fine the club now that opens the door for every team to get their banned players in when they feel they need him. "Let's see. If we win this cl game with our banned player (cough suarez) it's gonna earn us €1m but we have to pay a fine of 50k. If we draw, we only get 500k." Easy decision. There was already precedent as shown in Ferrose's post, to give a fine for a substitution which was clearly meaningless. In 2010 Debrecen fielded an illegible player for the last minutes of a match where they were leading 4-1 on aggregate, and were fined £15,000. This game, it was the final 2 minutes of a match where Legia was leading 6-1 on aggregate. Judgments that are so heavily fixated on the letter of the law as not to take into account that there's just no way there was any malicious intent whatsoever.. they suck. I think you can even state that "if there's any doubt whatsoever whether the team stood to benefit from it then the team is automatically disqualified", but there just is no doubt whatsoever. | ||
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