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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
March 17 2015 13:05 GMT
#12261
On March 17 2015 18:31 Pandemona wrote:
The likelihood of someone leading before with many games to go in a 16 team league of the 16 best in Europe is extremely unlikely. Take the Barcelona vs PSG group, they played each other twice and PSG won one game and lost away. That will happen a lot in the top games i think and with the amount of competition it will be good.

Yes we would not of won in 2012 with that system but we would have probably won it during the 2005-2008 period or maybe longer period with the team we had. We were very strong, 2012 was our weakest team and won it, thats why the system is clearly not the best way of determining the best team in Europe is it.

Best way to determine the best team is to play against the best teams in a league system not a knock out competition as to many factors come into play. Referee calls, injuries etc. You say that the bigger squads would win the league system due to injuries but that works both ways, if your about to play a semi final or quarter final and you have your best 3 players injured for a 2 week period over the 2 legs you are screwed. At least in a league system they still have 28 other games play in

Something similar actually happened in Dutch amateur football. There used to be 6 highest divisions and iitwas brought back to 2. Now it's a ridiculously competitive league with teams literally winning the league one year and getting relegated the next. Or the other way around where a tteam nearly got relegated and won the league the next year.

I think the CL does a good job determining the best teams though. The best teams from the last few years like Barca and Bayern get into at least the semi finals almost every year.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28908 Posts
March 17 2015 19:59 GMT
#12262
the CL does a great job determining the best teams, but not necessarily the best team. like 5 teams have been in top 8 four out of the past five years? that's amazing consistency for a playoff format, and on par with the best leagues. however I'd argue neither Inter nor Chelsea were actually the best team the year they won, although I can see how one might disagree on Inter. In a league setting, the best team definitely wins more than 60% of the time.
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 21:52:27
March 17 2015 21:50 GMT
#12263
Important mid week games in The Championship. Cardiff do more than most and hold Bournemouth to a draw. Whilst Middlesbrough go to Derby and win (huge). Watford win as well taking them top.

72pts Watford
72pts Middlesbrough
70pts AFC Bournemouth
67pts Derby County
67pts Norwich City

edit: Norwich got a last minute equalizer but still miss their chance to catch up.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 23:29:13
March 17 2015 23:28 GMT
#12264
naw you gotta play depay as an IF hes got way too much goal scoreing in him to waste him anywhere else. with RVP probably gone falco gone I think it leaves rooney as that top CF

I gotta think that a 2-3-1-3-1 would be best wouldn't you?

CB's then shaw-stroot-young with stroot-fellaini-mata-rooney snaking up staggered in the center with depay and di maria as advanced wingers.

Manu have a great attacking core I think its just the defence that needs overhaul now.

I may be playing too much fm to argue for a formation that makes sense. I was about to say strikerless before I stopped myself.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 18 2015 13:49 GMT
#12265
http://gfycat.com/EmbarrassedDentalAlaskanmalamute

what a player.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 18 2015 21:44 GMT
#12266
On March 18 2015 22:49 Mensol wrote:
http://gfycat.com/EmbarrassedDentalAlaskanmalamute

what a player.


Yeah that was great. I'm definitely a Turan fan
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10010 Posts
March 18 2015 23:32 GMT
#12267
https://gfycat.com/FocusedOptimalBedlingtonterrier#

Check out the second goal.
Michail Antonio will be the EPL in the next two years for sure.
RIP Meatloaf <3
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
March 19 2015 12:06 GMT
#12268
Watching the 5-6 great saves that Hart made yesterday and looking at the clasico. I'm so glad that the keeper will be Casillas instead of Hart
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 19 2015 14:18 GMT
#12269
England squad against Lithuania and Italy:

Goalkeepers
Fraser Forster (Southampton), Joe Hart (Manchester City)

Defenders
Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Nathaniel Clyne (Southampton), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders
Ross Barkley (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Fabian Delph (Aston Villa), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Andros Townsend (Tottenham Hotspur), Theo Walcott (Arsenal)

Forwards
Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal)
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51699 Posts
March 19 2015 22:33 GMT
#12270
disappointed to not see young especially considering how much he's improved under lvg.
also feel like luke shaw being named ahead of a few others is bull shit. he's been in poor form and has been oft-injured.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10010 Posts
March 19 2015 22:34 GMT
#12271
On March 19 2015 23:18 Ferrose wrote:
England squad against Lithuania and Italy:

Goalkeepers
Fraser Forster (Southampton), Joe Hart (Manchester City)

Defenders
Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Nathaniel Clyne (Southampton), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders
Ross Barkley (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Fabian Delph (Aston Villa), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Andros Townsend (Tottenham Hotspur), Theo Walcott (Arsenal)

Forwards
Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal)


There's not a single player there who consistently performs to a world class level.
Such a shame
RIP Meatloaf <3
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 20 2015 03:10 GMT
#12272
http://gfycat.com/TepidTerrificFieldmouse

I still can't believe Yarmolenko and Konoplyanka haven't been picked up by bigger clubs.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
March 20 2015 10:57 GMT
#12273
FML the weather forecast for el Clásico is rain T_T

On the bright side, we had a sick game vs City, with a godlike Messi, not much bragging to be found after the game and ManCity took the loss like real men and shook hands at the end. Respect.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 20 2015 11:36 GMT
#12274
What do you expect, they lost because they got destroyed lol. They have no one to blame but themselves.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
March 20 2015 11:57 GMT
#12275
On March 20 2015 20:36 Pandemona wrote:
What do you expect, they lost because they got destroyed lol. They have no one to blame but themselves.


Well Mou would rather blame the ref, UEFA, FIFA, the schedule, UNICEF and the stars alignment before admitting he got outplayed or outsmarted by the other coach. IIRC he called out his guys saying they don't deserve to advance if they can't defend two corners (which is BS) instead of talking how they got outplayed by 10 men for... 90 minutes?

I dunno if the players shoock hands with PSG at the end of the game, but I think everyone can agree Pellegrini is much more of a gentleman than the portuguese. And the players were a good reflect of his coach in the pitch at the end. So yeah, respect.
Revolutionist fan
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28908 Posts
March 20 2015 12:12 GMT
#12276
mourinho would never admit to being outsmarted by the other coach (and when I played bw, I'd never admit to being outsmarted by the other player either, so that's fair enough imo) but I've seen him state that the other team played better and deserved to win on a couple occasions..
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
March 20 2015 12:18 GMT
#12277
I can admit being outsmarted in several games I played (including bw, sc2 and poker) and I think that's an important ground for improving. Maybe that's just me not being crazy competitive tho.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 20 2015 13:39 GMT
#12278
Mourinho said PSG deserved to go through no? Said Bradford were the better team now? Our most noteable "beatings" this season. What you did was a sly dig at "x" with your post which was uncalled for because you know when Chelsea play Barcelona or a Mourinho team there is not "much" in the scoreline or at least wasnt in the Inter/Chelsea times at least. Also every Chelsea fan remembers 2010 game over 2005 game where we hammered you at stamford bridge did Rijkaard say we were the better team then?

Just seems a bit silly to address this TT
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
March 20 2015 13:47 GMT
#12279
Godly vid.

My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
March 20 2015 15:45 GMT
#12280
Messi is the greatest player of football history. just watch the first half vs PSG :D i wish for him to seal it with winning the world cup but never the less. There wont be a player to achieve as much as he has ever
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
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