EPTIt balances out eventually but for the weekend coming they will not get any points.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
It balances out eventually but for the weekend coming they will not get any points. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 23 2015 18:48 Pandemona wrote: Yeah im afraid you wont get any points for them but they will eventually play their "game in hands" that they miss in the premier league during a random weekday. It balances out eventually but for the weekend coming they will not get any points. Yeah except for players who care (and those who give a shit) you can time your transfers so that you dont have said players near their bye week and then put them back in for the week they play again so you effectively get an extra matchdays worth of points. So it doesnt really balance out if you forgot about bye weeks and other people didnt But like I said this is for people who take the trouble to set their teams each week and take it seriously. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
edit: Those aren't quite my words Panda. But Barnes should get at least the same ban as Matic. It's quite correct that the appeal against Matic's ban should be denied that kind of retaliation deserves a red card regardless of how awful the act that provoked it was. They discussed this on Match Of The Day. It would be an awful precedent to set to say you are allowed to reatliate if the foul comitted against you was nasty enough. Players would definatelly make use of a 'Free Punch Law' if they where to bring it in. But I do feel that Matic should not be facing more punishment than barnes. That doesn't seem right at all. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
http://gfycat.com/EvenLoathsomeHound This is the challenge in "question" even though he also fly kicked ivanovic in leg in the first half. Mourinho summed up the game with his "look at these minutes, 30, 33, 43 and 69., that is where you sum up this game. Chelsea fans reactions  | ||
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malcram
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9771 Posts
Also, Mourihno's tactic of constantly putting pressure on refs in the press is probably working against him. It makes it harder for the ref to make the right call. It means they might hesitate when giving stuff for or against Chelsea. Referee's should be free to do their job as they see fit and shouldn't have to face massive public inquisitions when they make a few mistakes or have a bad game. If a player does that its quickly forgotten as soon as they have a few good games in a row, with refs everyone just remembers the bad games, and people remember that stuff for a long time. On February 24 2015 02:27 Greg_J wrote: Derby had a man brought down by the keeper when he was clear on goal. The ball fell to anouther Derby player who thumped it home. The refree for some reason brought the game back to a penalty for the foul and sent off the keeper. Why not just send off the keeper and let the goal stand. Seemed odd to bring it back to a penalty. They scored the penalty anyway so it doesn't really matter. Just seemed odd to me. I don't think you can play the advantage rule and send someone off. Not too sure about this though | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On February 24 2015 02:24 Jockmcplop wrote: I don't think you can play the advantage rule and send someone off. Not too sure about this though edit: They often go back and book players after advantage has been played. Why not say that the advantage had been played and the goal stands. But the Kepper still deserves a red card. I suspect the reason is probablly that the refree blew his whistle striaght away when he saw the foul and that just wasn't obvious from the TV footage. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On February 24 2015 00:41 Pandemona wrote: Now we agree the FA have an agenda against Chelsea. You watch our appeal on Matic red (which i guess is a bit silly, but still) will get kicked back ASAP and he get like 5 game ban for it :') http://gfycat.com/EvenLoathsomeHound This is the challenge in "question" even though he also fly kicked ivanovic in leg in the first half. Mourinho summed up the game with his "look at these minutes, 30, 33, 43 and 69., that is where you sum up this game. Chelsea fans reactions Not really surprised. Its a miracle we are still top of the PL. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 24 2015 02:24 Jockmcplop wrote: Actually its not bullshit - its consistent. The reason they gave makes sense. If the referee had a good view then its his call to make, not anyone else's. I think some people would rather have week long panels about every single tackle that's ever made. Also, Mourihno's tactic of constantly putting pressure on refs in the press is probably working against him. It makes it harder for the ref to make the right call. It means they might hesitate when giving stuff for or against Chelsea. Referee's should be free to do their job as they see fit and shouldn't have to face massive public inquisitions when they make a few mistakes or have a bad game. If a player does that its quickly forgotten as soon as they have a few good games in a row, with refs everyone just remembers the bad games, and people remember that stuff for a long time. I don't think you can play the advantage rule and send someone off. Not too sure about this though Football is to big of a business for the majority of the major clubs for it all to be swept under the carpet. Hell even the decisions in the championships have huge financial baring in England. Referee's should never be free to get away with bad decisions, they should be punished by not refereeing the next game, just like footballers are when they are stupid making x tackle or stamping on y player. They get punished for being "bad" why shouldn't referee's they are pair more than enough. It's a tough job no question but they know what they are getting into and in some cases like Phill Dowd and others before him they love the spot light, they love calling a player over to chat with them to tell them off like a child knowing the camera is on them. That is fine though, they are free to do this aslong as they referee to the standard they are told to do so. Every monday on Sky Sports they have ex referee Dermot Gallagher reviewing the decisions as an ex referee. He said Chelsea should have had a penalty, Barnes should have already had a yellow card to his name before he made the tackle. He of course should have been sent off as well. Lots of ex pros and referees say the same thing, but nope. FA can't do shit because they dont want too...hahahahaha. Referee Review To top it all off if this was Costa making the challenge it would have been front page news around the world and everyone jumping in and calling him the dirtiest player of all time etc lol. But because its a Burnley player no one really knows it doesn't matter it seems.....one rule for one etc comes to mind. Now that is a rant :D so do take shit with a pinch of salt  | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9771 Posts
On February 24 2015 03:06 Pandemona wrote: Now that is a rant :D so do take shit with a pinch of salt Pinch of salt accepted but i will respond... On February 24 2015 03:06 Pandemona wrote: Football is to big of a business for the majority of the major clubs for it all to be swept under the carpet. Hell even the decisions in the championships have huge financial baring in England. Money should not be an excuse to undermine the authority of a referee. Its already ruined enough things in football, but the fact that bad refereeing decisions cost money is something the owners know when they buy a football team, its something the managers and players know when they take their fat contract. Why aren't they putting pressure on the league to use technology to assist refs? None of this would be happening. On February 24 2015 03:06 Pandemona wrote: Referee's should never be free to get away with bad decisions, they should be punished by not refereeing the next game, just like footballers are when they are stupid making x tackle or stamping on y player. They get punished for being "bad" why shouldn't referee's they are pair more than enough. I agree with this. If only to protect the ref and keep them out of the spotlight in case they have another bad game. It makes sense. Maybe there just isn't enough referees to do this. On February 24 2015 03:06 Pandemona wrote: It's a tough job no question but they know what they are getting into and in some cases like Phill Dowd and others before him they love the spot light, they love calling a player over to chat with them to tell them off like a child knowing the camera is on them. That is fine though, they are free to do this aslong as they referee to the standard they are told to do so. OK this sounds like rant  On February 24 2015 03:06 Pandemona wrote: Every monday on Sky Sports they have ex referee Dermot Gallagher reviewing the decisions as an ex referee. He said Chelsea should have had a penalty, Barnes should have already had a yellow card to his name before he made the tackle. He of course should have been sent off as well. Lots of ex pros and referees say the same thing, but nope. FA can't do shit because they dont want too...hahahahaha. Referee Review But do you disagree with the reason they gave? The referee makes a decision on the pitch and that is final. Its the foundation of the rules of football, you can't go back and change it. If the referee has the line of sight and has decided not to punish Ashley Barnes then that is the final decision. If this wasn't the case then there would be chaos, teams constantly picking on their opponent's last match asking why this guy wasn't sent off or the other guy booked to get a suspension etc. It has to be this way. I'm not saying that we shouldn't help the refs more though. If they could get some freaking help to make their decisions correctly in the first place then none of this would even be an issue. Instead of moaning at the refs we should be moaning at FIFA and the Premier League to start using technology like everyone wants to. On February 24 2015 03:06 Pandemona wrote: To top it all off if this was Costa making the challenge it would have been front page news around the world and everyone jumping in and calling him the dirtiest player of all time etc lol. But because its a Burnley player no one really knows it doesn't matter it seems.....one rule for one etc comes to mind. More rant but you're probably right. | ||
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
On February 24 2015 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote: But do you disagree with the reason they gave? The referee makes a decision on the pitch and that is final. Its the foundation of the rules of football, you can't go back and change it. If the referee has the line of sight and has decided not to punish Ashley Barnes then that is the final decision. If this wasn't the case then there would be chaos, teams constantly picking on their opponent's last match asking why this guy wasn't sent off or the other guy booked to get a suspension etc. It has to be this way. I'm not saying that we shouldn't help the refs more though. If they could get some freaking help to make their decisions correctly in the first place then none of this would even be an issue. Instead of moaning at the refs we should be moaning at FIFA and the Premier League to start using technology like everyone wants to. The FA could review decisions about things that affect future games while still keeping the result of that game. Chelsea were very unlucky in that game. The ref was appalling. But I don't think the FA should have the power to change the result of that game because of the ref's performance, so in that sense the referees decision on the pitch is final. However, I do think the FA should suspend players for dangerous play even if it wasn't punished during the game, regardless of whether the referee saw it. In that sense I don't want the ref's decision to be final. Barnes should be banned for at least 3 matches. It should not matter that the one referee disagreed on that day. I agree that football needs more technology (maybe in the form of video replays or a video official) to help referees. But I would still like the FA to go back and say, "That was a mistake. The player should be banned for some matches so we are going to ban him." | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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Mensol
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Poor CR. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce a new discounted ticket pricing category for under 20-year-olds. All other season ticket and individual match ticket prices for next season at Stamford Bridge remain frozen at 2011/12 levels. Finally Chelsea address the issue, wish it was U21 but still U20 is very good, families taking children have just had a nice incentive to go and also students should be able to afford to go too! Hoorah | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Barnes had received the ball from a throw in, after Courtois miskicked the ball out of play. He was being closed down from behind, so he passed the ball, right as Matic slid in for a tackle, and coincidentally caught Matic's shin. It wasn't even a tackle from Barnes, he passed the ball right as a challenge came in. Either way, I think that if Matic doesn't lose his head, the whole thing isn't worth noting. Maybe people would have thought "oh wow that looked bad" or "he probably could have gotten a yellow for that" and then we'd forget that it even happened. This stuff happens periodically, but no one loses their minds like they have in this situation. It's usually just a yellow card and/or a talking to, and everyone moves on with their lives. As for the "campaign against Chelsea" bullshit, two can play at this game. Chelsea fans, remember this incident last season? Of course you don't. It wasn't even called a foul! Can you believe that? Or how about this potential leg-breaker from Gary Cahill against Alexis Sanchez? That was only a yellow card. Or maybe Fabregas' handball that wasn't called a penalty, from the same match? It must be a campaign against Arsenal! Look at all this injustice I've just cherry picked for my convenience. There must be some kind of conspiracy in place so that Arsenal can't win the Premier League. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On February 24 2015 08:08 Ferrose wrote: I went back and actually watched the game, and not just the gif. The incident with Barnes and Matic was nothing. Especially in real time. I can't understand the outrage. The gif doesn't really give any context of what happened. Barnes had received the ball from a throw in, after Courtois miskicked the ball out of play. He was being closed down from behind, so he passed the ball, right as Matic slid in for a tackle, and coincidentally caught Matic's shin. It wasn't even a tackle from Barnes, he passed the ball right as a challenge came in. Either way, I think that if Matic doesn't lose his head, the whole thing isn't worth noting. Maybe people would have thought "oh wow that looked bad" or "he probably could have gotten a yellow for that" and then we'd forget that it even happened. This stuff happens periodically, but no one loses their minds like they have in this situation. It's usually just a yellow card and/or a talking to, and everyone moves on with their lives. As for the "campaign against Chelsea" bullshit, two can play at this game. Chelsea fans, remember this incident last season? Of course you don't. It wasn't even called a foul! Can you believe that? Or how about this potential leg-breaker from Gary Cahill against Alexis Sanchez? That was only a yellow card. Or maybe Fabregas' handball that wasn't called a penalty, from the same match? It must be a campaign against Arsenal! Look at all this injustice I've just cherry picked for my convenience. There must be some kind of conspiracy in place so that Arsenal can't win the Premier League. First, are you kidding me ? 5 years and 1 day on prison, please. You are going to let that kick that could have break Matic leg in 2 just with a yellow ? really ? This is not about karma, this is because the ref sucks and they just sucks, Arsenal/Chelsea have ALWAYS been favored, just like every big team in the world, but thats completely besides the points. Barnes isnt even going to be sanctioned ffs It doesnt matter what happened before or after, this is just about the referees being stupidly bad, and they are in a complete other level compared to the football... and in the wrong way, they are lazy, they dont prepare matches, siome of them are downright FAT, etc... While players train everyday, watch videos, keep fit, etc... FIFA should give a more professional status to the referees, is embarrasing seeing ref arriving 10-5 seconds later to the play. | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/pdf/wp100_eng.pdf "Issue number 100 of the CIES Football Observatory Big-5 Weekly Post presents the map of the 100 clubs that have trained the most footballers playing in 31 European top division leagues. The notion of training clubs refers to teams where players have been for at least three seasons between the ages of 15 and 21." Sporting tied with Real Madrid in 7th xD Ajax is obviously 1st | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On February 24 2015 07:26 Mensol wrote: I'd also lose my form if i break up with a girl like her. Poor CR. holy mother of premier league refs | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
On February 24 2015 09:13 GizmoPT wrote: Cool stuff: Top 100 Training Clubs in Europe http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/pdf/wp100_eng.pdf "Issue number 100 of the CIES Football Observatory Big-5 Weekly Post presents the map of the 100 clubs that have trained the most footballers playing in 31 European top division leagues. The notion of training clubs refers to teams where players have been for at least three seasons between the ages of 15 and 21." Sporting tied with Real Madrid in 7th xD Ajax is obviously 1st Croatia actually has 5 representatives. gj shitty league :D | ||
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