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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
Obviously the thin back-line could be an issue with injuries and suspensions, but I think Mourinho has some back-up plans. That said, Man City has a ridiculous squad and could give Mou a run for the title, but they get caught out so many times each season it feels like to have a chance this year. You can't really take the PL title race for granted, but Chelsea look like red-hot favourites to just about everyone, with good reason. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
Also Arsenal injuries are just bizarre, something needs to be done. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
On October 09 2014 01:23 Ferrose wrote: I love how there's all this talk about Chelsea stomping the league and possibly going unbeaten, but the Bundesliga is criticized for having the title decided in October. Sounds like you guys think the PL is decided already as well. ya, but it's unique to this season. Chelsea looks like the strongest any PL team has been for years, and the competition looks a bit weaker than it has been for years. I think even next season it will look more open. and I still think PL is more open than the bundesliga. Basically what Chelsea has is that they look like they're never gonna lose - but they don't look like they're going to win every game. Some games they will be content with a draw. The past two seasons, bayern won 29 out of 34 games. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
He was my childhood hero along with Hagi ^_^ | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 09 2014 02:43 Liquid`Drone wrote: ya, but it's unique to this season. Chelsea looks like the strongest any PL team has been for years, and the competition looks a bit weaker than it has been for years. I think even next season it will look more open. and I still think PL is more open than the bundesliga. Basically what Chelsea has is that they look like they're never gonna lose - but they don't look like they're going to win every game. Some games they will be content with a draw. The past two seasons, bayern won 29 out of 34 games. This is, quite literally, the exact same situation that the Bundesliga is in. Bayern, starting last year, has looked incredibly dominant in a way that we hadn't seen in quite a long time in Germany prior to that season. On top of that, basically every other major team has either been stagnant or gotten worse since 2013. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 09 2014 06:16 zulu_nation8 wrote: PL is way more open than Bundesliga, I don't remember the last time a PL team won the title when they were leading after 10 games, the second half of the season is always full of drama. This doesn't happen in the Bundesliga normally either. It's pretty disingenuous to only pay attention to last season and this season and characterize it as the norm in the Bundesliga. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 09 2014 08:32 SKC wrote: Bayern has been the Bundesliga team for as long as I can remember. I can't think of another league with only one team head and shoulders ahead of everyone else. Inter/Milan/Juventus, Barcelona/RM, etc. It's not something new to german football. Quick google search says they have 23 titles against like 5 from the second place. Bayern has been the team but they've rarely dominated in the fashion that they have over the last two years. Most years result in slim league wins that go down to the last couple match days. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
On October 09 2014 10:12 Stratos_speAr wrote: Bayern has been the team but they've rarely dominated in the fashion that they have over the last two years. Most years result in slim league wins that go down to the last couple match days. And when those "slim" seasons happen Bayern just buys out all the good players from the 2nd and 3rd place getters and runs away again. You see this in so many leagues. Like in Spain I'd say Ateltico, Sevilla, Valencia and Sociedad (to a lesser extent than the other 3) will produce some wunderkinds/ nurture and produce great existing talent, win and/or come close second/third every 3 year cycle. Then they just sell (almost) their entire squad and return to middle of the table. I feel sorry for these "not super rich" clubs. John oliver hit the nail on the head for me a little bit when he was trying to (albeit with a fair amount of sarcasm) explain footbal to another person (can't remember the other person but he was american... I think it might have been Letterman) The exchange was something like: "So in football how many teams win the competition" Jon Oliver: "See I don't know how to explain football to an American, because if I tell you that only 3-4 teams have a realistic chance of EVER winning the league you'd ask me 'then what's the point of the other teams playing?' and I can't answer that question" Honestly I think football needs some kind of drafting system, because the imbalance is so bad these days lower teams are content with just "scraping by".FFP doesn't work. People just bend the rules with "sponsorship deals" and then pay off some UEFA execs when brought into question. It's so hard to be an Englishman and be born outside London, Liverpool or Manchester. If you're born anywhere else it's pretty much guaranteed you're following a team with very little hope of winning anything in your lifetime. A quick quote from wiki to prove my point: "Of the 46 clubs to have competed since the inception of the Premier League in 1992, five have won the title: Manchester United (13), Arsenal (3), Chelsea (3), Manchester City (2) and Blackburn Rovers (1). The current champions are Manchester City, who won the title in 2013–14." That's over 20 years.. If you look at the top 4 year-in year-out it gets even worse!!!!!!!!!!!! Simply put, what's the point of goign for a team that's outside the "top 4 clubs" (arguably 5 now)? (unless you're just a devotee and don't care about win/lose) | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 09 2014 11:24 MaZza[KIS] wrote: And when those "slim" seasons happen Bayern just buys out all the good players from the 2nd and 3rd place getters and runs away again. You see this in so many leagues. Like in Spain I'd say Ateltico, Sevilla, Valencia and Sociedad (to a lesser extent than the other 3) will produce some wunderkinds/ nurture and produce great existing talent, win and/or come close second/third every 3 year cycle. Then they just sell (almost) their entire squad and return to middle of the table. I feel sorry for these "not super rich" clubs. John oliver hit the nail on the head for me a little bit when he was trying to (albeit with a fair amount of sarcasm) explain footbal to another person (can't remember the other person but he was american... I think it might have been Letterman) The exchange was something like: "So in football how many teams win the competition" Jon Oliver: "See I don't know how to explain football to an American, because if I tell you that only 3-4 teams have a realistic chance of EVER winning the league you'd ask me 'then what's the point of the other teams playing?' and I can't answer that question" Honestly I think football needs some kind of drafting system, because the imbalance is so bad these days lower teams are content with just "scraping by".FFP doesn't work. People just bend the rules with "sponsorship deals" and then pay off some UEFA execs when brought into question. It's so hard to be an Englishman and be born outside London, Liverpool or Manchester. If you're born anywhere else it's pretty much guaranteed you're following a team with very little hope of winning anything in your lifetime. A quick quote from wiki to prove my point: "Of the 46 clubs to have competed since the inception of the Premier League in 1992, five have won the title: Manchester United (13), Arsenal (3), Chelsea (3), Manchester City (2) and Blackburn Rovers (1). The current champions are Manchester City, who won the title in 2013–14." That's over 20 years.. If you look at the top 4 year-in year-out it gets even worse!!!!!!!!!!!! Simply put, what's the point of goign for a team that's outside the "top 4 clubs" (arguably 5 now)? (unless you're just a devotee and don't care about win/lose) Spain, Italy, and Germany are in the same boat, with, at most, 6 different winners in that period. But don't bring that up, because the competition is totally fine right now and everyone only wants to see the big teams win and "dynasties" and "story lines" to be made... | ||
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
On October 09 2014 14:13 Stratos_speAr wrote: Spain, Italy, and Germany are in the same boat, with, at most, 6 different winners in that period. But don't bring that up, because the competition is totally fine right now and everyone only wants to see the big teams win and "dynasties" and "story lines" to be made... Worst of all it's totally in UEFA's corrupt interests for this to continue in order to help ease in a European Super League- aka the death of every football club in Europe that doesn't make the grade. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
Also, I think the biggest offenders in this whole situation are RM/Barca. Bayern only recently facerolls the league, more often then not there are a few contenders for the Bundesliga title. PL, Serie A, Ligue 1 all have more than 1 or 2 contenders for the most part, but in Spain it's only RM/Barca for the longest time with an odd winner once per decade mixed somewhere in between. Does anyone remember the last time such a big injury plague spread throughout the top leagues? I think all top teams in Europe except for maybe Chelsea and Man City have half of their squads injured, it's really annoying. | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
As for the question why do teams who know they wont win the league play? Because there is ALWAYS a chance of an upset, there is always a cup run or a major surprise. Beating a big team is like a trophy for some teams. If Leicester get relegated this season they know they have beaten Man Utd 5-3 at home and drew vs Arsenal. Im pretty sure they are more than happy with that? Also the reason American sports have different winners is because it is a level playing field thanks to draft pick stuff not for salary cap. Take it as Messi coming up from youth as no1 draft pick, to be picked by Levante or someone due to them finishing bottom and having no1 pick lol. That would be funny huh  | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
European football is not without it's issues, but the fixes are not found in American sports. Btw champions league is the thing that truly hurts all leagues in Europe, it creates a financial imbalance for participants nations. Dividing the money earned with everyone and participants getting slightly more would go a long way to fixing problems. Also limiting total number of players per team in all leagues , a team without European football could cause a lot problems for participants. | ||
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