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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 04:57:12
June 24 2014 04:56 GMT
#21
Yeah, that's not enough for Love IMO. Maybe if one of those picks was in the top 5.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
June 24 2014 05:41 GMT
#22
On June 24 2014 13:54 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 13:03 Jibba wrote:
So the Bulls' offer is supposedly 16, 19, Snell and Gibson for Love.

I'm not a fan of that at all. Maybe you give up Gibson if you overpaid for him, but the Bulls got him on a great contract right now.


don't think the wolves would take anything that wouldn't allow them to immediately compete..


I'm not so sure.

If the Wolves don't make any moves at all they risk losing Love for nothing. Still not sure the Bulls offer is enough though.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 24 2014 06:14 GMT
#23
On June 24 2014 14:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 13:54 Doraemon wrote:
On June 24 2014 13:03 Jibba wrote:
So the Bulls' offer is supposedly 16, 19, Snell and Gibson for Love.

I'm not a fan of that at all. Maybe you give up Gibson if you overpaid for him, but the Bulls got him on a great contract right now.


don't think the wolves would take anything that wouldn't allow them to immediately compete..


I'm not so sure.

If the Wolves don't make any moves at all they risk losing Love for nothing. Still not sure the Bulls offer is enough though.


yah. of course they'll have to weigh of the options, but surely any GWS offer with klay/lee is better than CHI's...
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia12999 Posts
June 24 2014 09:28 GMT
#24
I think Boston's offer is prob best if you believe the dubs aren't offering Klay.

But lets face it, theyre all rubbish packages for a player of Love's talent.

I'm really not sure where he goes. I'd bank on Boston or staying in minny and being traded later in the year.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
June 24 2014 09:41 GMT
#25
On June 24 2014 18:28 RowdierBob wrote:
I think Boston's offer is prob best if you believe the dubs aren't offering Klay.

But lets face it, theyre all rubbish packages for a player of Love's talent.

I'm really not sure where he goes. I'd bank on Boston or staying in minny and being traded later in the year.


Yea I'm betting he gets traded right before the deadline especially if the Wolves don't look likely to make the playoffs at that point.

I just can't see the Wolves trying to hold onto him as a Free Agent. They don't have the same brash confidence the Lakers had with Dwight or they shouldn't at any rate.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia12999 Posts
June 24 2014 10:12 GMT
#26
I agree he's 99% gone from minny.

But they should hold out for other, better, offers. They still have leverage.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 24 2014 10:54 GMT
#27
i guess the question is do you want 50cent + 30cent piece for him ($1) or do you want something like 4x20cent pieces
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 24 2014 13:11 GMT
#28
My guess is that Wade opts in for the Heat considering he will never be offered another contract that is comparable by anyone. Bosh probably follows Lebron's lead. What does Lebron do? If Wade does opt in, the team isn't going to have a lot of options to significantly improve. They can replace a bunch of role players with other minimum contract role players, but Wade's contract will really weigh them down unless he has a miracle turn around in the work load he can handle. I don't think Lebron is going to be any more loyal to the Heat than he was to the Cavs if he thinks they aren't going to have a good chance to win.

Cleveland seems like a long shot for Lebron except on public sentimentality. Lebron said a major factor in leaving the Cavs was that no one he tried to recruit was willing to go there. Of course Kyrie, Lebron and whoever they pick #1 is probably enough to be best in the east, but that #1 pick needs to be a superstar in year one if they want to beat who ever comes out of the west. It would be the only spot where leaving Miami would be met with less criticism nationally compared to other contenders.

Rockets are going to be going all out for a 3rd star this off season. Miami is the favorite to retain Lebron, but the Rockets could make a very strong pitch and argueably offer the strongest big 3 he could join. Harden, Howard and Lebron lineup would be instant favorites to win it all. If for some reason Lebron would prefer to team with Carmello or Love over Harden, trading Harden isn't out of the question either. Carmello and Love will both be on the Rocket's list if Lebron isn't an option. Morey seems confident that he can get the cap space needed by trading Lin and Asik to the point that it is implied the deals are already in place as soon as they get a commitment from a player they want.

The Bulls are also major players in getting another star player. Their appeal depends on how much faith they have in Rose's health. Supposedly he is doing great now, but until he does it in real NBA games it's a risk.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 24 2014 13:58 GMT
#29
wade can stay in miami and make his money but i don't think lebron will be there with him. he just opted out lol.

/popcorn
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 24 2014 14:00 GMT
#30
ESPN is reporting that Lebron has opted out of his contract to become an unrestricted free agent.
topherthetoad
Profile Joined September 2008
China130 Posts
June 24 2014 14:34 GMT
#31
He could still be re-signing with Miami, so...
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 14:42:31
June 24 2014 14:41 GMT
#32
The key clue on the chances of Lebron leaving will be whether Wade opts in or out.

Maybe Wade is all about winning to the point that he will take a huge paycut. Maybe he has enough money stacked away that he will go for rings over cash. But he is already on the decline and if the Heat were to make moves JUST on what would make the team better, I don't know that the Heat would even bring back Wade if he opted out. And there is no way he gets another contract from anyone comparable to what opting in would give him.

Lebron said he isn't taking a pay cut just so the Heat can avoid the luxury tax penalty, but the Heat would be 4th year offenders if they do what he wants and the cost will be insane. Certainly their owner could afford to do it if he doesn't mind losing millions for his entertainment, but it's a cost that would continue to rise. They weren't willing to pay it this year to keep Mike Miller against Lebron's wishes. If the Heat aren't willing to take a big loss in luxury tax then the chances of Lebron leaving increase a lot.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 15:35:32
June 24 2014 15:14 GMT
#33
well if lebron does go to cleveland this will be as good of a time as any. they should draft wiggins mainly to play good defense on guys lebron would be guarding. wiggins needs a guy like lebron to learn from too.

On June 24 2014 23:34 topherthetoad wrote:
He could still be re-signing with Miami, so...


he could, but right now it would take a credible heat rebuilding plan to land him again. it's a serious FA period not a formality. so we have drama
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 24 2014 18:34 GMT
#34
Oh Basketball Jesus, please send Lebron to us. Hallowed be thy name.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 24 2014 19:07 GMT
#35
Talk of Carmelo AND James going to the Lakers makes me laugh. Will never, ever happen. Granted, I'd pay money to see that trainwreck.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 24 2014 20:22 GMT
#36
On June 25 2014 04:07 On_Slaught wrote:
Talk of Carmelo AND James going to the Lakers makes me laugh. Will never, ever happen. Granted, I'd pay money to see that trainwreck.


I don't see how you convince both Lebron and Carmello to take pay cuts when Kobe didn't take one and is coming off a major injury that makes his health just as questionable as Wade, and the fact that Kobe still seems to see himself as the number one option on offense. Plus Lebron can't pass Kobe in rings if he is helping him win more.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 24 2014 20:33 GMT
#37
Yes, but Lebron could turn Kobe into the new Lebron: i.e. the guy who needed lots of help to win rings. ;D
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 24 2014 20:55 GMT
#38
Don't think anybody wants them though.

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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 24 2014 21:27 GMT
#39
If wade opts in there is almost no hope of that miami team winning the championship next year. Even then though, I think it'd put a really terrible image on lebron if he keeps team hopping like this.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
June 24 2014 22:02 GMT
#40
On June 25 2014 06:27 Itsmedudeman wrote:
If wade opts in there is almost no hope of that miami team winning the championship next year. Even then though, I think it'd put a really terrible image on lebron if he keeps team hopping like this.


Idk, I could see myself rooting for the Cavs (not as my main team obviously) if he goes there + Kyrie and Wiggins/Parker. Frankly I'm tired of Lebron on the Heat, but I see your point.
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