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Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
June 16 2014 14:30 GMT
#801
On June 16 2014 14:57 Ace wrote:
What an amazing game. That third quarter was the Spurs playoff run all wrapped up.

Hate to say it but my guy Wade is done. Miami's big 3 need to drastically cut their minutes if they want to keep this going assuming they call come back.


I just think the Heat need to retool a bit during this offseason and recharge their batteries. Four NBA Finals appearances in a row is incredibly draining and it showed this time around. If they can make a few shrewd offseason transactions whether through free agency, the draft, or both, then I expect them to make the finals once again and put up a better fight then this year.

Spoelstra will indeed have to look at his minute allocation in the regular season, both to give Lebron some more rest, but also to get their role players more playing time and thus more confidence to perform in the playoffs. Wade needs to refocus on the defensive end where he was just hopeless this series. Manu, as a comparison, has had well documented injury problems and has clearly slowed down defensively for some time now but he still plays hard and intelligently so he isn't a complete liability on that end. Wade needs to do the same.

Fantastic series by the Spurs. It's unbelievable that they are once again NBA champions this late into their core's careers. I've never seen a team so driven to win and congratulations to them. Once of the best displays of basketball in NBA history.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 14:33:12
June 16 2014 14:32 GMT
#802
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 16 2014 15:13 GMT
#803
wow pop retired so fast to be a cameraman
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 16 2014 17:49 GMT
#804
So I heard the Spurs have the highest point differential in NBA playoff history at +214, even though they only went 16-7. In contrast, the 2000-2001 Lakers had a point differential of +204 when they went 15-1.

Point differentials by series are:
2013-2014 Spurs
vs Dallas - +14
vs Portland - +67
vs OKC - +63
vs Miami - +70

2000-2001 Lakers
vs Portland - +44
vs Sacramento - +37
vs San Antonio - +89
vs Philly - +34
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 16 2014 18:34 GMT
#805
It's kind of funny that San Antonio got stomped so incredibly badly by that Lakers team and then beat them for worst overall stomp ever this year
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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
June 16 2014 21:22 GMT
#806
Real happy that the Spurs won. No three-peats allowed.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#807
On June 17 2014 02:49 andrewlt wrote:
So I heard the Spurs have the highest point differential in NBA playoff history at +214, even though they only went 16-7. In contrast, the 2000-2001 Lakers had a point differential of +204 when they went 15-1.

Point differentials by series are:
2013-2014 Spurs
vs Dallas - +14
vs Portland - +67
vs OKC - +63
vs Miami - +70

2000-2001 Lakers
vs Portland - +44
vs Sacramento - +37
vs San Antonio - +89
vs Philly - +34

what happened in those 7 losts? spurs were stop by superior defense or did they got stop by themselves? didn't play Diaw enough? only paid attention to spurs when they were playing the thunders, but that series were just blown out after blown out by both teams. Only the last game were competitive.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 22:14:17
June 16 2014 22:11 GMT
#808
The 2000-2001 Lakers still had a bigger point-differential when taking into account possessions (per 100 possessions). That team was beast though! This team is more balanced.

source: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/san-antonios-revenge-scenes-from-a-championship-run-for-the-ages/ (like 2nd paragraph)
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#809
On June 17 2014 06:56 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 02:49 andrewlt wrote:
So I heard the Spurs have the highest point differential in NBA playoff history at +214, even though they only went 16-7. In contrast, the 2000-2001 Lakers had a point differential of +204 when they went 15-1.

Point differentials by series are:
2013-2014 Spurs
vs Dallas - +14
vs Portland - +67
vs OKC - +63
vs Miami - +70

2000-2001 Lakers
vs Portland - +44
vs Sacramento - +37
vs San Antonio - +89
vs Philly - +34

what happened in those 7 losts? spurs were stop by superior defense or did they got stop by themselves? didn't play Diaw enough? only paid attention to spurs when they were playing the thunders, but that series were just blown out after blown out by both teams. Only the last game were competitive.

Lost 3 to Dallas which had a gameplan and personnel to counter them, 2 to the thunder, 1 each to Portland, Miami.
Ibaka coming back did a lot for the Thunder until they kind of figured it out.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
June 16 2014 22:30 GMT
#810
Also, how can I find Wade's points-per-game in his Finals-series throughout his career?

I heard the numbers and found the trend somewhat surprising, but I can't find the numbers to link..
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 16 2014 23:15 GMT
#811
Here you go:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/

Just click on the year, then the series stats for each Finals should be near the top of the page.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 16 2014 23:30 GMT
#812
Another undercurrent is that the Heat, when they were at their height, were probably one of the most refereeing-dependent elite teams I can remember (kind of like the Thunder currently). Their defense was hyper-aggressive and could get them in foul trouble, or alternatively they often relied on friendly whistles offensively. A slight degradation in their ability to be physically overpowering, and the Spurs being very good at avoiding foul trouble/traps on each end made this look worse than most people probably expected.
Freeeeeeedom
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 17 2014 00:22 GMT
#813
That sort of defense is also the 'icing on the cake' sort of play. That's what you do when you're comfortable with every other part of your game. Lebron can't make those plays when he's having to do all these other things. And everyone else played like dogshit anyway.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
June 17 2014 01:20 GMT
#814
On June 16 2014 11:50 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 11:48 dmnum wrote:
Lebron is a really graceful loser


Lol he wasn't always this way.


People mature.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 17 2014 01:34 GMT
#815
If people really think James & Co all taking a pay cut to try to bring in Melo is a legit possibility, wouldn't the scarier option to be bringing in Lance Stephenson?
Freeeeeeedom
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 17 2014 01:41 GMT
#816
Bringing in Lance does sound scary.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 17 2014 01:52 GMT
#817
Just saying, that is not a team Id like to face.
Freeeeeeedom
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 17 2014 02:08 GMT
#818
Considering they probably need to reload with some shooters, I don't think he's the right person to go after, even if he has more of a pulse offensively than what they have.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 17 2014 02:17 GMT
#819
The most realistic thing for them to do is to try to get a few Bellinelli-like characters, I was just saying, for the same money Id rather watch the Heat + Lance than Heat + Melo.
Freeeeeeedom
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 17 2014 02:18 GMT
#820
For the same money Melo is much better than Lance.
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