EPTNBA Playoffs 2013-2014 - Page 135
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ketomai
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Jerubaal
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red_
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Jerubaal
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Besides, you never know how the refs might start calling the game in OKC. That place is homer paradise. You can't tell me Cory Joseph isn't better than Austin Rivers. | ||
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Ultimo Hombre
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TheMusiC
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Itsmedudeman
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DystopiaX
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On May 22 2014 12:22 red_ wrote: It's impossible for this post to not be a little biased by the moment, but the Spurs look ready to runaway with the title this year. I'm not sure how the Mavs did what they did(favorable matchups, familiarity, whatever), but the team on the floor now doesn't look beatable 4 out of 7 games. The Mavs had a good coach and depth beyond 2 players. I still think Miami has the edge against them but I'd love for the Spurs to prove me wrong. | ||
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FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
On May 22 2014 10:40 Zorkmid wrote: Splitter flop, $5000 or rigged. Reggie and Kerr are blind. The day Tiago Discipline gets called for flopping, after all the BS he has to put up with on the defensive end (Dirk, LMA, and now whichever thunder tries to drive in the paint(Ok they don't do it as often because the toilet is clogged wayyy earlier)); that day I'll be a sad man. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On May 21 2014 02:24 DystopiaX wrote: You can't base all this shit off one game though, cause if this playoffs have shown us anything shit changes from game to game. It doesn't take adjustments and shit into account, and if you can say Fish isn't going to hit 4 3's again then I can say the Spurs aren't going to score 60 points in the paint again. I do think the Spurs have the advantage with Ibaka out but you can't make an assumption about the rest of the series after 1 game, if you did then ATL would have advanced over Indiana and Washington would be in the eastern finals right now. How about 2 games? Even before the first game, just off the personnel and numbers, I couldn't fathom how Brooks could make it work. Had more faith in Portland putting up a fight after the game 1 beatdown. People seriously underestimate how important Ibaka is at both ends and how limited OKC are offensively outside the big 3. Serge can knock down the odd 3 and has a very efficient mid range game (a bit like Bosh for the heat but less 3's). Now they've got terrible spacing with 2 bigs on the floor (none of them can shoot - when they go small it's even uglier) and 3 of the OKC starters are totaling 9 points over 2 games. Spurs had another 54 pts in the paint today, which in turn makes it hard to guard Green and co. I realise shit can change and would be reluctant to call any series between complete teams over so early but OKC just can't replace a big as unique and athletic as Ibaka. I've had him in fantasy for the past 3 seasons, so I do have a bit of bias but I have watched him and OKC a ton. | ||
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RowdierBob
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ketomai
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I mean the best line up they came up with in game 1 was Durant/WB/Sef/Collison/Perk, a lineup they never used in the regular season ever. Even that lineup got exploited in game 2 to the point where Brooks didn't even play it past the first quarter. 4/6 of their top lineups in the regular season included Ibaka, and the other 2 are clearly only used against second units. Brooks was obviously trying out different 5 man lineups that he's never played before these past 2 games and hasn't found one that doesn't result in his team getting blown out. The Thunder don't know what to do without Ibaka because they haven't played without him before this series. They're basically just making shit up on the fly and so far none of it is working. If they haven't even figured out a stable lineup in 2 games (and by stable I mean a lineup that doesn't result in the 20 point blow outs), the series is probably over. Even with Ibaka I'm pretty sure their defensive deficiencies would still be too hard to overcome. They need to pray for the Spurs to keep missing open shots like they did in the first part of game 2. | ||
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o29
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On May 22 2014 12:22 red_ wrote: It's impossible for this post to not be a little biased by the moment, but the Spurs look ready to runaway with the title this year. I'm not sure how the Mavs did what they did(favorable matchups, familiarity, whatever), but the team on the floor now doesn't look beatable 4 out of 7 games. Spurs have been the favorite for me all along (why I picked them, along with LAC and OKC, right before that little stint right before the playoffs when the media started saying it might be someone from the West this year). So they weren't an out-of-the-box pick at the beginning of the playoffs, but the narrative changed a little since then. The Heat have just had such a relatively easy run so far in the playoffs that it has made people think they could do it again. This is the first series we really get to see what they have left in the tank though. And that Mavs team, going back to our debate about height, was actually shown as being the longest team in the NBA that season. I remember because they beat the Lakers (2nd longest) who had the Bynum, Gasol, Odom front-court IRC. So they were actually even longer/taller than them. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On May 22 2014 23:35 o29 wrote: OKC is definitely missing Ibaka (Harden too, apparently) but I definitely think the problems run a little deeper than that. Watching OKC is frustrating sometimes because with all the talent on that team you'd expect more ball movement. Scott Brooks needs to go. He is wasting their talent  | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On May 23 2014 01:59 Roggay wrote: Scott Brooks needs to go. He is wasting their talent This is an oversimplified view. Their offensive playbook absolutely needs a major overhaul, but it's pretty unfair to not give Brooks any credit for the things he does well AND to ignore the limitations of the roster. Sefolosha, Perkins, Adams are all 0's offensively. You can watch teams aggressively not guard them. Collinson isn't too far beyond them but at least he can pass. Fisher is a traffic cone that can shoot threes (sometimes). Butler is still chewing straws all game but can't defend anyone either. Their player development outside of KD/Russ/Ibaka appears to be 0, that may be on Brooks, but OKC could-as several teams do- have particular assistants in charge of that sort of stuff so Brooks can worry about other things. I hate OKC's offense as much as anyone. And when Reggie Jackson comes in and plays like a less good Westbrook it is even more painful. This series is exposing OKCs lack of depth, and how most of their role players can't play both ends of the floor. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 22 2014 19:34 Scarecrow wrote: How about 2 games? Even before the first game, just off the personnel and numbers, I couldn't fathom how Brooks could make it work. Had more faith in Portland putting up a fight after the game 1 beatdown. People seriously underestimate how important Ibaka is at both ends and how limited OKC are offensively outside the big 3. Serge can knock down the odd 3 and has a very efficient mid range game (a bit like Bosh for the heat but less 3's). Now they've got terrible spacing with 2 bigs on the floor (none of them can shoot - when they go small it's even uglier) and 3 of the OKC starters are totaling 9 points over 2 games. Spurs had another 54 pts in the paint today, which in turn makes it hard to guard Green and co. I realise shit can change and would be reluctant to call any series between complete teams over so early but OKC just can't replace a big as unique and athletic as Ibaka. I've had him in fantasy for the past 3 seasons, so I do have a bit of bias but I have watched him and OKC a ton. sure but idk why you're calling me out for what I said after game 1 after you know the results of game 2. Agree with the dude that says it's not all on missing Ibaka though, he doesn't make up for a 35 point gap, I don't care how valuable he is on both ends of the floor. On May 23 2014 01:59 Roggay wrote: Scott Brooks needs to go. He is wasting their talent I've said this for years now. He's a terrible coach but gets results cause he has an amazing roster. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On May 23 2014 03:34 Haiq343 wrote: This is an oversimplified view. Their offensive playbook absolutely needs a major overhaul, but it's pretty unfair to not give Brooks any credit for the things he does well AND to ignore the limitations of the roster. Sefolosha, Perkins, Adams are all 0's offensively. You can watch teams aggressively not guard them. Collinson isn't too far beyond them but at least he can pass. Fisher is a traffic cone that can shoot threes (sometimes). Butler is still chewing straws all game but can't defend anyone either. Their player development outside of KD/Russ/Ibaka appears to be 0, that may be on Brooks, but OKC could-as several teams do- have particular assistants in charge of that sort of stuff so Brooks can worry about other things. I hate OKC's offense as much as anyone. And when Reggie Jackson comes in and plays like a less good Westbrook it is even more painful. This series is exposing OKCs lack of depth, and how most of their role players can't play both ends of the floor. Sure, they may lack depth, but then again, I think its also due a lot to the fact that the role players are not put into a good position to do what they can best. The offensive sets are so limited that all the shots they get are really hard ones and most of the time after the first pick'n'roll its everybody for himself iso-style, so ofc the guys who don't have as much talent as Durant et WB will struggle to find their shots. | ||
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Jerubaal
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