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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 21:21:01
May 08 2014 20:50 GMT
#461
On May 05 2014 03:53 LeeDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 22:53 sch0n wrote:
So, my beloved Eagles, what are their chances, really? They had a good year, but it's really scary to me that DJax is gone, and their schedule is tough as hell. The division is a rollercoaster in perfomance, so it's always hard to predict. Finishing the season with three division games is going to be very deciding, i think! Excited to see the Sproles/McCoy combination, it's clear to me that they wanna keep up the up-tempo game.


If Nick Foles can build on his stellar performance last year, Maclin can come back healthy, and you can add a few solid defensive pieces through the draft, I can see you guys making a deep run in the playoffs. You have a lot of talent, and last year you had the best QB in the division which is huge. If I was going to make a pick right now for the NFC East standings it'd be:

1. Eagles
2. Giants
3. Redskins
4. Cowboys

top to bottom will probably only be separated by 2 or 3 games.

I say Foles collapses this year, watching the tape of him play i don't like his throws he's basically Andy Dalton except luckier.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 08 2014 21:10 GMT
#462
Ah shit apparently my league from last year decided to do keepers and they want us to pick ours before the draft tonight. I'm in a PPR league. Who should I keep? My main players are
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB: Alfred Morris
WR: Dez Bryant
WR: Steve Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
Flex: I guess Doug Martin here since I had him but he didn't play a lot last year before getting hurt and didn't produce too much before that


I was thinking of keeping McCoy but should I be worried at all about Philly's offense regressing with a year of tape on them, losing Jackson, and Foles probably not being as good in general?
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23873 Posts
May 08 2014 21:22 GMT
#463
On May 09 2014 06:10 Shellshock wrote:
Ah shit apparently my league from last year decided to do keepers and they want us to pick ours before the draft tonight. I'm in a PPR league. Who should I keep? My main players are
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB: Alfred Morris
WR: Dez Bryant
WR: Steve Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
Flex: I guess Doug Martin here since I had him but he didn't play a lot last year before getting hurt and didn't produce too much before that


I was thinking of keeping McCoy but should I be worried at all about Philly's offense regressing with a year of tape on them, losing Jackson, and Foles probably not being as good in general?


McCoy is guaranteed to get a shit ton of touches and probably finish top 5 barring injury (He's still pretty young).

Vernon Davis is the only one even in consideration. He is likely a top 5 TE.

I think the smart play is to keep McCoy you could easily lose him in the first round. If you want a big TE go for Graham if he makes it to round 2 or look for Thomas, GronK, Davis, in the 4th or beyond Cameron will probably be a pick that hangs out for a long time if you want a big value late.

Of course drafts are heavily influenced by the composition of the league members football knowledge. If the knowledge is mostly superficial or being pulled from stats or google searches you can find some 'no-name' diamonds near the bottom of the draft.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#464
On May 09 2014 05:50 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 03:53 LeeDawg wrote:
On May 04 2014 22:53 sch0n wrote:
So, my beloved Eagles, what are their chances, really? They had a good year, but it's really scary to me that DJax is gone, and their schedule is tough as hell. The division is a rollercoaster in perfomance, so it's always hard to predict. Finishing the season with three division games is going to be very deciding, i think! Excited to see the Sproles/McCoy combination, it's clear to me that they wanna keep up the up-tempo game.


If Nick Foles can build on his stellar performance last year, Maclin can come back healthy, and you can add a few solid defensive pieces through the draft, I can see you guys making a deep run in the playoffs. You have a lot of talent, and last year you had the best QB in the division which is huge. If I was going to make a pick right now for the NFC East standings it'd be:

1. Eagles
2. Giants
3. Redskins
4. Cowboys

top to bottom will probably only be separated by 2 or 3 games.

I say Foles collapses this year, watching the tape of him play i don't like his throws he's basically Andy Dalton except luckier.


So Foles must be the luckiest QB in the history of the NFL then? Well you know what they say about luck...
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 08 2014 21:35 GMT
#465
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 21:40:55
May 08 2014 21:38 GMT
#466
On May 09 2014 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 06:10 Shellshock wrote:
Ah shit apparently my league from last year decided to do keepers and they want us to pick ours before the draft tonight. I'm in a PPR league. Who should I keep? My main players are
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB: Alfred Morris
WR: Dez Bryant
WR: Steve Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
Flex: I guess Doug Martin here since I had him but he didn't play a lot last year before getting hurt and didn't produce too much before that


I was thinking of keeping McCoy but should I be worried at all about Philly's offense regressing with a year of tape on them, losing Jackson, and Foles probably not being as good in general?


McCoy is guaranteed to get a shit ton of touches and probably finish top 5 barring injury (He's still pretty young).

Vernon Davis is the only one even in consideration. He is likely a top 5 TE.

I think the smart play is to keep McCoy you could easily lose him in the first round. If you want a big TE go for Graham if he makes it to round 2 or look for Thomas, GronK, Davis, in the 4th or beyond Cameron will probably be a pick that hangs out for a long time if you want a big value late.

Of course drafts are heavily influenced by the composition of the league members football knowledge. If the knowledge is mostly superficial or being pulled from stats or google searches you can find some 'no-name' diamonds near the bottom of the draft.

Ok. I figured keeping McCoy was my best bet. I just wanted to see if anyone thought someone like Davis or Bryant would be valuable enough in a PPR league to keep over him. McCoy had 19.5 points per game in our scoring system and Byrant had 17.9. Hopefully McCoy can just stay at a similar level. Thanks
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23873 Posts
May 08 2014 21:42 GMT
#467
On May 09 2014 06:38 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 09 2014 06:10 Shellshock wrote:
Ah shit apparently my league from last year decided to do keepers and they want us to pick ours before the draft tonight. I'm in a PPR league. Who should I keep? My main players are
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB: Alfred Morris
WR: Dez Bryant
WR: Steve Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
Flex: I guess Doug Martin here since I had him but he didn't play a lot last year before getting hurt and didn't produce too much before that


I was thinking of keeping McCoy but should I be worried at all about Philly's offense regressing with a year of tape on them, losing Jackson, and Foles probably not being as good in general?


McCoy is guaranteed to get a shit ton of touches and probably finish top 5 barring injury (He's still pretty young).

Vernon Davis is the only one even in consideration. He is likely a top 5 TE.

I think the smart play is to keep McCoy you could easily lose him in the first round. If you want a big TE go for Graham if he makes it to round 2 or look for Thomas, GronK, Davis, in the 4th or beyond Cameron will probably be a pick that hangs out for a long time if you want a big value late.

Of course drafts are heavily influenced by the composition of the league members football knowledge. If the knowledge is mostly superficial or being pulled from stats or google searches you can find some 'no-name' diamonds near the bottom of the draft.

Ok. I figured keeping McCoy was my best bet. I just wanted to see if anyone thought someone like Davis or Bryant would be valuable enough in a PPR league to keep over him. McCoy had 19.5 points per game in our scoring system and Byrant had 17.9. Hopefully McCoy can just stay at a similar level. Thanks


Yeah I guess you could make a case for bryant too I just hate Romo and if you really want him you'll you will have a chance to get him. McCoy was just the only one you could lose in the first round, Unless your league is not so bright ;P

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 21:48:24
May 08 2014 21:45 GMT
#468
On May 09 2014 06:38 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 09 2014 06:10 Shellshock wrote:
Ah shit apparently my league from last year decided to do keepers and they want us to pick ours before the draft tonight. I'm in a PPR league. Who should I keep? My main players are
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB: Alfred Morris
WR: Dez Bryant
WR: Steve Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
Flex: I guess Doug Martin here since I had him but he didn't play a lot last year before getting hurt and didn't produce too much before that


I was thinking of keeping McCoy but should I be worried at all about Philly's offense regressing with a year of tape on them, losing Jackson, and Foles probably not being as good in general?


McCoy is guaranteed to get a shit ton of touches and probably finish top 5 barring injury (He's still pretty young).

Vernon Davis is the only one even in consideration. He is likely a top 5 TE.

I think the smart play is to keep McCoy you could easily lose him in the first round. If you want a big TE go for Graham if he makes it to round 2 or look for Thomas, GronK, Davis, in the 4th or beyond Cameron will probably be a pick that hangs out for a long time if you want a big value late.

Of course drafts are heavily influenced by the composition of the league members football knowledge. If the knowledge is mostly superficial or being pulled from stats or google searches you can find some 'no-name' diamonds near the bottom of the draft.

Ok. I figured keeping McCoy was my best bet. I just wanted to see if anyone thought someone like Davis or Bryant would be valuable enough in a PPR league to keep over him. McCoy had 19.5 points per game in our scoring system and Byrant had 17.9. Hopefully McCoy can just stay at a similar level. Thanks

What's the cost of keeping in your league? Just the round where you drafted them?

Edit: Also need more info to help you. Judging by your team, I'm guessing it was a 10 person league? Is it a full point ppr? If the cost is the round where the player was drafted, what round did you draft each member of your team?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 22:06:25
May 08 2014 21:55 GMT
#469
On May 09 2014 06:45 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 06:38 Shellshock wrote:
On May 09 2014 06:22 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 09 2014 06:10 Shellshock wrote:
Ah shit apparently my league from last year decided to do keepers and they want us to pick ours before the draft tonight. I'm in a PPR league. Who should I keep? My main players are
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: LeSean McCoy
RB: Alfred Morris
WR: Dez Bryant
WR: Steve Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
Flex: I guess Doug Martin here since I had him but he didn't play a lot last year before getting hurt and didn't produce too much before that


I was thinking of keeping McCoy but should I be worried at all about Philly's offense regressing with a year of tape on them, losing Jackson, and Foles probably not being as good in general?


McCoy is guaranteed to get a shit ton of touches and probably finish top 5 barring injury (He's still pretty young).

Vernon Davis is the only one even in consideration. He is likely a top 5 TE.

I think the smart play is to keep McCoy you could easily lose him in the first round. If you want a big TE go for Graham if he makes it to round 2 or look for Thomas, GronK, Davis, in the 4th or beyond Cameron will probably be a pick that hangs out for a long time if you want a big value late.

Of course drafts are heavily influenced by the composition of the league members football knowledge. If the knowledge is mostly superficial or being pulled from stats or google searches you can find some 'no-name' diamonds near the bottom of the draft.

Ok. I figured keeping McCoy was my best bet. I just wanted to see if anyone thought someone like Davis or Bryant would be valuable enough in a PPR league to keep over him. McCoy had 19.5 points per game in our scoring system and Byrant had 17.9. Hopefully McCoy can just stay at a similar level. Thanks

What's the cost of keeping in your league? Just the round where you drafted them?

Edit: Also need more info to help you. Judging by your team, I'm guessing it was a 10 person league? Is it a full point ppr? If the cost is the round where the player was drafted, what round did you draft each member of your team?

It's 8 person league. Cost is where you drafted them. full ppr? I guess if you mean 1 reception = 1 point. I'm not the biggest fantasy person so I'm kind of a noob. We also don't have it set up for decimals in points in this league. Only whole numbers for whatever reason.

Dez Bryant was a 3rd rounder for me. I acquired Lesean Mccoy in a trade where the other person drafted him in the 2nd round and I traded a 5th rounder for him so I need to check how that works. I assume I lose the 2nd round pick for keeping him and 3rd for Dez. Davis was my 8th pick as the 4th TE to go behind Graham, Gronk, and Gonzalez (live in GA so falcons players typically get inflated from the 2 years I've played). Doug Martin was my 1st rounder lol. Didn't go too well.

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TD Rush (RTD) 6
2pt Rushing Conversion (2PR) 2

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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 22:14:06
May 08 2014 22:13 GMT
#470
That's tough. I think in an 8 person league, you'd have Bryant as the (approximately) 20th player to be kept and Davis as the 68th (about). I feel in this small of a league, the advantage of having a stud TE is not as good as a stud WR (think Points Above Replacement) as the TE drop off is terrible as you go deeper than 8, plus you're bound to have to play more WRs.

I've never played in a keeper football league, but I've played keeper baseball and another thing that I've found to be noteworthy is to see what the rest of the league is keeping. For example, keepers often depress the value of players to be taken with higher picks: for example, Zac Stacey is probably kept for a great bargain (let's say the 8th round) but is worth much better than that (let's say a 2nd, purely hypothetical). This makes the higher rounds picks that people who aren't keeping have less valuable. Therefore, keeping Davis and having the 3rd might not be as valuable.

I'd keep Bryant.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 22:27:57
May 08 2014 22:27 GMT
#471
ugh... this is our first year doing keepers (this will be our 3rd year playing together). apparently there was too much bitching about how to do the cost and now they are saying you will just lose your 1st round pick if you keep someone
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 08 2014 22:29 GMT
#472
I think that might be worth doing for Shady. What pick do you have?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 08 2014 23:58 GMT
#473
We don't know the draft order yet. Shits a mess. Might be pushing it back because league manager has no idea what he's doing
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 09 2014 00:02 GMT
#474
Yeah the keeper thing matters with what pick you have obviously. In a PPR league, Dhady could be first overall material anyway.

C'mon, Khalil, do your job and drop to us at 9!
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51581 Posts
May 09 2014 00:13 GMT
#475
Woo, finished my assignment last night so my ass can be fully focused on the draft today.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 09 2014 00:21 GMT
#476
On May 09 2014 08:58 Shellshock wrote:
We don't know the draft order yet. Shits a mess. Might be pushing it back because league manager has no idea what he's doing

dont keep davis. you can replace your tight end a whole lot easier than you can rbs or wrs. you cant lose dez or mccoy from that roster, everyone else can be replaced by name-brand whoever.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 09 2014 00:21 GMT
#477
clowney at #1, now the question is when do the qbs start to get taken..
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 09 2014 00:22 GMT
#478
On May 09 2014 09:21 Aveng3r wrote:
clowney at #1, now the question is when do the qbs start to get taken..

Pls not at 4, pls not at 4.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 09 2014 00:24 GMT
#479
I'm sorry.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 09 2014 00:25 GMT
#480
for what?
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