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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2014 16:37 GMT
#1581
The commentators are saying the course for the second run of slalom is uber difficult.
Lots of DSQ/DNF's already.
靈魂交響曲
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
February 22 2014 16:46 GMT
#1582
On February 23 2014 01:37 Fishball wrote:
The commentators are saying the course for the second run of slalom is uber difficult.
Lots of DSQ/DNF's already.


yeah, father of Janica Kostelic and Ivica Kostelic created that ^^
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 22 2014 16:49 GMT
#1583
On February 23 2014 01:37 Darpa wrote:
Just read that the netherlands have 24 medals from Speedskating alone. WTF what do you feed them?


Mayonaise and fries
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 22 2014 16:53 GMT
#1584
On February 23 2014 01:37 Darpa wrote:
Just read that the netherlands have 24 medals from Speedskating alone. WTF what do you feed them?

Be just about the only country super enthusiastic about it i mean if you can't be the best when it's all you care about then you're doing something wrong.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 22 2014 16:53 GMT
#1585
On February 22 2014 22:54 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 18:15 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On February 22 2014 15:37 Scarecrow wrote:
[image loading]

lol

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/20/sports/olympics/womens-figure-skating.html?smid=fb-share&_r=4

lol that explains about half the score, which isn't the half that's being argued. You're letting a judge subjectively score a skater who she's clearly very close with and another judge on the panel with a history of corruption. The woman with the blue scarf in that photo is another of the judges. This Russian girl scored 18 points more with the same routine (with a mistake), than her personal best a month ago, making her score the second highest in the last 8 years by a relatively large margin.

Just be happy Russia stole a gold and leave it at that.

Just look at the scorecards in this article: http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/02/why-people-think-adelina-sotnikovas-figure-skating-gold-medal-was-rigged/358344/

"Russians medaled at every figure skating event they entered."

Hehe, even though i am russian, i am actually interested.
That case with pairs actually looks... interesting.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#1586
WOWOW
slalom race was so intense...
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#1587
didn't like it that much, the course seemed way too hard with a lot of DNF. but congrats austria!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
February 22 2014 17:21 GMT
#1588
Thank god marcel hirscher didnt win!!!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
February 22 2014 17:38 GMT
#1589
On February 22 2014 19:51 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 19:47 Fishball wrote:
Norway so much hacks in Cross Country

I wonder what the Olympics would look like if all the countries could vote to ban each other from participating in one sport.

- No Hockey for Canada
- No Long Track for the Netherlands
- No Figure Skating for Russia
- No Cross Country Skiing for Norway
- No Alpine Skiing for Austria
- No Luge for Germany
- Etc.


we haven't been dominating alpine skiing for 8 years now :p

well, at least you dominated men's slalom
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 22 2014 18:28 GMT
#1590
72 men didn't finish their slalom run, rofl.
L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
February 22 2014 18:55 GMT
#1591
On February 22 2014 22:54 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 18:15 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On February 22 2014 15:37 Scarecrow wrote:
[image loading]

lol

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/20/sports/olympics/womens-figure-skating.html?smid=fb-share&_r=4

lol that explains about half the score, which isn't the half that's being argued. You're letting a judge subjectively score a skater who she's clearly very close with and another judge on the panel with a history of corruption. The woman with the blue scarf in that photo is another of the judges. This Russian girl scored 18 points more with the same routine (with a mistake), than her personal best a month ago, making her score the second highest in the last 8 years by a relatively large margin.

Just be happy Russia stole a gold and leave it at that.

Just look at the scorecards in this article: http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/02/why-people-think-adelina-sotnikovas-figure-skating-gold-medal-was-rigged/358344/

"Russians medaled at every figure skating event they entered."

You're a South Korean who claims that the russians cheated, just because the russian skater won, rather than your south korean skater. And you're saying that the judges, who are professionals, and knows 1000 times more about the sport than you do are being subjective. If they're subjective, then what are you?

If Yuna had won, don't you think that the judges would want to congratulate her? The only reason why it looks suspect is because the skater is russian.


Let's take a look at the European Championship which was held earlier this year.

Sotnikova's European Championship Long program scores
Technical Score: 62.03 Component Score: 69.60

Sotnikova's Olympic Long program scores
Technical Score: 75.54 Component Score: 74.41

So, her Technical score increased by 13.51, and her component score by 4.81

Guess by how much Sotnikova outclassed Kim in the technical score in the Olympic Long program? 5.85 points. So if you consider the 0.28 point lead that Kim had from the short program, and then replace Sotnikova's Olympic component score, with the component score that she got in her much less impressive performance in the European championship, then she still would have won the gold.

Btw, for comparison.
Kostner's European Championship Long program scores
Technical Score: 52.40 Component Score: 71.02

Kostner's Olympic Long program scores
Technical Score: 68.84 Component Score: 73.77

So, her Technical score increased by 16.44, and her component score by 2.75

So, as you can see, Sotnikova's component score didn't actually increase by that much compared to her weaker European Championship Performance, and Kostner's component score increased too. Not as much, but we're talking about a 2 point difference.

BTW. Sotnikova's Choreography score, one of the sub-scores of the component scores that ppl pointed out as "suspect", was higher than Kostner's in the European Championship too. So, the general view seems to be that Sotnikova's program has got a better choreography than Kostner's.


So, what is next? Will you now claim that the Russians bribed the judges in the European Champhionship too?

Sotnikova didn't come out of nowhere, which a lot of ppl seems to believe. She was along with Kostner one of the favorites to win in the European Championship this year and the year before, and prior to that she was dominating in the juniors. Everybody was talking about Lipnitskaya, because she won the European Championship, ahead of Sotnikova and Kostner, but Sotnikova was their obvious medal hope going into the olympics.

Source:
http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec2014/SEG004.HTM
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 19:01:02
February 22 2014 18:58 GMT
#1592
I will take the word of katerina witt.



Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
February 22 2014 19:02 GMT
#1593
On February 23 2014 03:58 Canucklehead wrote:
I will take the word of katerina witt.

http://youtu.be/SV4sfY2ou_I?t=1m14s



nice example,
kinda like when i use Bobby Orr to explain that Wayne Gretzky is an incomplete hockey player.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
February 22 2014 19:06 GMT
#1594
On February 23 2014 04:02 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 03:58 Canucklehead wrote:
I will take the word of katerina witt.

http://youtu.be/SV4sfY2ou_I?t=1m14s



nice example,
kinda like when i use Bobby Orr to explain that Wayne Gretzky is an incomplete hockey player.


touche!
Pure fan
L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 19:10:30
February 22 2014 19:10 GMT
#1595
On February 22 2014 23:17 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 22:54 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 22 2014 18:15 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On February 22 2014 15:37 Scarecrow wrote:
[image loading]

lol

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/20/sports/olympics/womens-figure-skating.html?smid=fb-share&_r=4

lol that explains about half the score, which isn't the half that's being argued. You're letting a judge subjectively score a skater who she's clearly very close with and another judge on the panel with a history of corruption. The woman with the blue scarf in that photo is another of the judges. This Russian girl scored 18 points more with the same routine (with a mistake), than her personal best a month ago, making her score the second highest figure skating score in the last 8 years. Just be happy Russia stole a gold and leave it at that.

Just look at the scorecards in this article: http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/02/why-people-think-adelina-sotnikovas-figure-skating-gold-medal-was-rigged/358344/

"Russians medaled at every figure skating event they entered."


i've said this before guys.

the IOC fixes a few events so that the hosts who went to great trouble and expense to put on the games get some extra gold.

same thing happened in 2010 in Vancouver.

I love Canada and everything, but i'm not a moron. Canada was gifted at least 2 of those 14 gold we got in 2010.

The IOC, however, does not screw around with men's hockey due to the NHL having such a big hand in the event. The IOC is constantly having the suck off NHL officials to get them to send the NHL players to the games for free.

The IOC fixes events that it has a firm strangle hold on.

from a TV Viewers perspective, Russia nad Sochi has put on a great show. they deserve a couple of bullshit medals just like Vancouver/Canada got in 2010.

The ice for hockey has sucked balls though. from 10,000 miles away on TV... Sochi has been great... give those Russian mofos a few extra medals and call it a day!

TO RUSSIA... WITH LOVE!

To prove that you're not a moron, point out 2 of those golds that Canada was gifted. Was the Men's Curling one of them?
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 19:44:16
February 22 2014 19:28 GMT
#1596
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126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 19:33:03
February 22 2014 19:31 GMT
#1597
On February 23 2014 04:10 L1ghtning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 23:17 lamprey1 wrote:
On February 22 2014 22:54 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 22 2014 18:15 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On February 22 2014 15:37 Scarecrow wrote:
[image loading]

lol

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/20/sports/olympics/womens-figure-skating.html?smid=fb-share&_r=4

lol that explains about half the score, which isn't the half that's being argued. You're letting a judge subjectively score a skater who she's clearly very close with and another judge on the panel with a history of corruption. The woman with the blue scarf in that photo is another of the judges. This Russian girl scored 18 points more with the same routine (with a mistake), than her personal best a month ago, making her score the second highest figure skating score in the last 8 years. Just be happy Russia stole a gold and leave it at that.

Just look at the scorecards in this article: http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/02/why-people-think-adelina-sotnikovas-figure-skating-gold-medal-was-rigged/358344/

"Russians medaled at every figure skating event they entered."


i've said this before guys.

the IOC fixes a few events so that the hosts who went to great trouble and expense to put on the games get some extra gold.

same thing happened in 2010 in Vancouver.

I love Canada and everything, but i'm not a moron. Canada was gifted at least 2 of those 14 gold we got in 2010.

The IOC, however, does not screw around with men's hockey due to the NHL having such a big hand in the event. The IOC is constantly having the suck off NHL officials to get them to send the NHL players to the games for free.

The IOC fixes events that it has a firm strangle hold on.

from a TV Viewers perspective, Russia nad Sochi has put on a great show. they deserve a couple of bullshit medals just like Vancouver/Canada got in 2010.

The ice for hockey has sucked balls though. from 10,000 miles away on TV... Sochi has been great... give those Russian mofos a few extra medals and call it a day!

TO RUSSIA... WITH LOVE!

To prove that you're not a moron, point out 2 of those golds that Canada was gifted. Was the Men's Curling one of them?


One of them must have been the men's hockey gold. Canadian refs after all - rig confirmed

Also, TL sure got a lot of figure skating experts all of a sudden lol.
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 19:39:33
February 22 2014 19:39 GMT
#1598
On February 23 2014 04:31 126Q;A1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 04:10 L1ghtning wrote:
On February 22 2014 23:17 lamprey1 wrote:
On February 22 2014 22:54 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 22 2014 18:15 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On February 22 2014 15:37 Scarecrow wrote:
[image loading]

lol

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/20/sports/olympics/womens-figure-skating.html?smid=fb-share&_r=4

lol that explains about half the score, which isn't the half that's being argued. You're letting a judge subjectively score a skater who she's clearly very close with and another judge on the panel with a history of corruption. The woman with the blue scarf in that photo is another of the judges. This Russian girl scored 18 points more with the same routine (with a mistake), than her personal best a month ago, making her score the second highest figure skating score in the last 8 years. Just be happy Russia stole a gold and leave it at that.

Just look at the scorecards in this article: http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/02/why-people-think-adelina-sotnikovas-figure-skating-gold-medal-was-rigged/358344/

"Russians medaled at every figure skating event they entered."


i've said this before guys.

the IOC fixes a few events so that the hosts who went to great trouble and expense to put on the games get some extra gold.

same thing happened in 2010 in Vancouver.

I love Canada and everything, but i'm not a moron. Canada was gifted at least 2 of those 14 gold we got in 2010.

The IOC, however, does not screw around with men's hockey due to the NHL having such a big hand in the event. The IOC is constantly having the suck off NHL officials to get them to send the NHL players to the games for free.

The IOC fixes events that it has a firm strangle hold on.

from a TV Viewers perspective, Russia nad Sochi has put on a great show. they deserve a couple of bullshit medals just like Vancouver/Canada got in 2010.

The ice for hockey has sucked balls though. from 10,000 miles away on TV... Sochi has been great... give those Russian mofos a few extra medals and call it a day!

TO RUSSIA... WITH LOVE!

To prove that you're not a moron, point out 2 of those golds that Canada was gifted. Was the Men's Curling one of them?


One of them must have been the men's hockey gold. Canadian refs after all - rig confirmed

Also, TL sure got a lot of figure skating experts all of a sudden lol.


It's obvious we need a general figure skating thread to talk about it!

I'm also wondering what other events we were gifted at Vancouver?
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 19:47:57
February 22 2014 19:43 GMT
#1599
On February 23 2014 04:31 126Q;A1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 04:10 L1ghtning wrote:
On February 22 2014 23:17 lamprey1 wrote:
On February 22 2014 22:54 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 22 2014 18:15 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On February 22 2014 15:37 Scarecrow wrote:
[image loading]

lol

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/20/sports/olympics/womens-figure-skating.html?smid=fb-share&_r=4

lol that explains about half the score, which isn't the half that's being argued. You're letting a judge subjectively score a skater who she's clearly very close with and another judge on the panel with a history of corruption. The woman with the blue scarf in that photo is another of the judges. This Russian girl scored 18 points more with the same routine (with a mistake), than her personal best a month ago, making her score the second highest figure skating score in the last 8 years. Just be happy Russia stole a gold and leave it at that.

Just look at the scorecards in this article: http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/02/why-people-think-adelina-sotnikovas-figure-skating-gold-medal-was-rigged/358344/

"Russians medaled at every figure skating event they entered."


i've said this before guys.

the IOC fixes a few events so that the hosts who went to great trouble and expense to put on the games get some extra gold.

same thing happened in 2010 in Vancouver.

I love Canada and everything, but i'm not a moron. Canada was gifted at least 2 of those 14 gold we got in 2010.

The IOC, however, does not screw around with men's hockey due to the NHL having such a big hand in the event. The IOC is constantly having the suck off NHL officials to get them to send the NHL players to the games for free.

The IOC fixes events that it has a firm strangle hold on.

from a TV Viewers perspective, Russia nad Sochi has put on a great show. they deserve a couple of bullshit medals just like Vancouver/Canada got in 2010.

The ice for hockey has sucked balls though. from 10,000 miles away on TV... Sochi has been great... give those Russian mofos a few extra medals and call it a day!

TO RUSSIA... WITH LOVE!

To prove that you're not a moron, point out 2 of those golds that Canada was gifted. Was the Men's Curling one of them?


One of them must have been the men's hockey gold. Canadian refs after all - rig confirmed


no, the IOC stays away from Men's hockey because of how deeply involved the NHL is. The IOC is afraid to fuck with the NHL's power structure... and the NHLPA because if they do .. the NHL and NHLPA will pull out of the Olympics.

The NHLPA has more power than other Olympians due to their union's strength and high salaries.

HOWEVER, women's hockey did get fucked around with in 2002, it was hosted in the USA and so the IOC steered stuff in the USA's direction.

USA got to put "their referee" in charge. and it was the biggest load of total fucking bullshit i've ever seen.
Stacey Whatsherface called 8

THAT IS RIGHT EIGHT ...YES 8 TEAM CANADA PENALTIES IN A ROW



More bias in favour of the hosting nation.

what is Stacey Livingston doing now?
ya, thought so.
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
February 22 2014 19:46 GMT
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