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On May 02 2014 01:15 funkie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Falcao must be feeling pretty fucking stupid right now. Moved to Monaco, torn ACL, my ex-team is on the CL Finals. Rofl.
Talk about destiny and irony. :o
When I saw the Bayern vs Real game, I thought I was seeing Barça play like it should've keep on playing, always pressing, and always chasing the ball, doing a lot of vertical activity and not trying to sleep the ball by doing kind-of-meaningless passes horizontally.
It's really sad that the "tiki-taka" way of playing that Guardiola made so popular back in 2008-2009 has already been thought out and it's easily counter-playable. Specially by Real Madrid whom excel at counter-attacking and being almost always well positioned to create danger or damage.
I wish the best to both teams, but I'm really hoping football can do justice for once, and let Atletico win. They've been, by far, the best and most consistent team throughout the season.
If they win, well deserved. If they don't, well, at least they know they're capable of winning everything.
I wouldn't say that the system has been thought out. It's more that against teams of your strength you need Messi who can run through 8 guys and score if there is no other way. Bayern could just drive to Hamburg next weekend and destroy them 9:2 again if they threw all their anger into the match.
Closest Bayern could've gotten to Barcelonas style would be playing Götze every match imo but for whatever reason the player Guardiola wanted so bad according to media doesn't make all that many appearances.
Maybe it's the dm's not finding the passes they need to, maybe Ribery and Robben are extremely good but better in another system. Maybe it's only motivation.
Maybe Bundesliga was so weak that Bayern forgot that they need to defend harder, better, faster and stronger.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 02 2014 01:15 funkie wrote:
Falcao must be feeling pretty fucking stupid right now. Moved to Monaco, torn ACL, my ex-team is on the CL Finals. Rofl.
Talk about destiny and irony. :o
When I saw the Bayern vs Real game, I thought I was seeing Barça play like it should've keep on playing, always pressing, and always chasing the ball, doing a lot of vertical activity and not trying to sleep the ball by doing kind-of-meaningless passes horizontally.
It's really sad that the "tiki-taka" way of playing that Guardiola made so popular back in 2008-2009 has already been thought out and it's easily counter-playable. Specially by Real Madrid whom excel at counter-attacking and being almost always well positioned to create danger or damage.
I wish the best to both teams, but I'm really hoping football can do justice for once, and let Atletico win. They've been, by far, the best and most consistent team throughout the season.
If they win, well deserved. If they don't, well, at least they know they're capable of winning everything.
He didn't have a choice Atletico have 0 money, straight up broke. Don't forget they couldn't afford the €5000 Chelsea wanted for them to play Courtois lol. They bought Falcao with a bunch of loan money or something, the Portuguese half of our community will tell us more but im sure they bought him with money they did not have and had to sell him when they did.
Reason why Costa will leave this summer, not because he really wants to, but just the club need the €40-50million they will get for him (even though i think he has a buy out clause right?)
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Unrelated, but it seems to me Pepe and Sergio Ramos are incredible defenders now, clearing out balls cleanly and passing the ball, as opposed to stomping on everyone as they used to.
Anyone share the same feeling?
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good luck against Uefantus.
I really hope Benfica wins but i dont think its going to happen since final is in Turin. Platini will give a biased ref.
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On May 02 2014 01:46 smr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 01:15 funkie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Falcao must be feeling pretty fucking stupid right now. Moved to Monaco, torn ACL, my ex-team is on the CL Finals. Rofl.
Talk about destiny and irony. :o
When I saw the Bayern vs Real game, I thought I was seeing Barça play like it should've keep on playing, always pressing, and always chasing the ball, doing a lot of vertical activity and not trying to sleep the ball by doing kind-of-meaningless passes horizontally.
It's really sad that the "tiki-taka" way of playing that Guardiola made so popular back in 2008-2009 has already been thought out and it's easily counter-playable. Specially by Real Madrid whom excel at counter-attacking and being almost always well positioned to create danger or damage.
I wish the best to both teams, but I'm really hoping football can do justice for once, and let Atletico win. They've been, by far, the best and most consistent team throughout the season.
If they win, well deserved. If they don't, well, at least they know they're capable of winning everything.
I wouldn't say that the system has been thought out. It's more that against teams of your strength you need Messi who can run through 8 guys and score if there is no other way. Bayern could just drive to Hamburg next weekend and destroy them 9:2 again if they threw all their anger into the match. Closest Bayern could've gotten to Barcelonas style would be playing Götze every match imo but for whatever reason the player Guardiola wanted so bad according to media doesn't make all that many appearances. Maybe it's the dm's not finding the passes they need to, maybe Ribery and Robben are extremely good but better in another system. Maybe it's only motivation. Maybe Bundesliga was so weak that Bayern forgot that they need to defend harder, better, faster and stronger.
Bundesliga was definitely weak this season. That's why Bayern won it in record time, I think they almost had the same points as they did last season but became champions much much earlier because e.g. Dortmund was just very weak at the first half of the season.
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benfica - juventus should be good starting now
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Norway28814 Posts
On May 01 2014 23:34 Twisted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 22:07 Liquid`Drone wrote:On May 01 2014 18:38 Twisted wrote:
Every team is a fan favorite against Chelsea. And there's really only one reason for that: Mourinho.
Anyway, what I thought would happen before the series eventually did happen. When Chelsea decided to attack instead of park the bus, they got demolished.
I also think the whole 'boohoo we have no strikers' is getting old. Chelsea has fine strikers, but they are consistently getting murdered with the style of play. Chelsea either defends and plays long balls to a striker in no-mans-land, or attack with a couple of wingers who like to get inside (Hazard) and the space to play is pretty much none for the strikers. The constant rotation of strikers is doing nothing but weakening the confidence of the strikers and if there's one thing a striker needs, it's confidence by being able to play a lot of 90 minute games. Benzema would constantly switch places with Higuain last season (again under Mourinho) and would play shitty most of the time. This season when he's the lone striker and is undisputed he looks like a much more confident, better striker.
Torres missing those sitters is not because he's bad, it's because he gets nervous and fucks up because he just lacks confidence. That's on the coach. Whenever I see a Chelsea match, and granted, it's not often, I see Torres playing really well except for his finishing. His link-up play with the other players is great, he puts a lot of energy into it as well. That just shows he's very fit, plays really well, but just lacks the confidence to finish. You can't tell me a goal-scoring monster at Liverpool can't score now at Chelsea. And well.. Ba is pretty bad, Eto'o is old, but then again, you have enough material that can score goals in the midfield as well. Hazard, Oscar, Willian, Lampard.. all those players score a decent clip of goals. Add like 10 goals from defenders from set pieces and shit, you have enough goals in your team.
Ajax just won the Dutch Eredivisie with a top goalscorer with 10 goals (one match to go), yet you do not see Frank de Boer, or the fans, consistently whining that we have no striker. And this is in the league with the most amount of goals per match iirc, because we can't defend at all and every team likes to attack. I'm sorry but this is largely nonsense.. Chelsea got a lot of hate from the get-go for being the most obvious rich playground club and they're rightfully given some blame for inflating the player market. But Mourinho probably brings them as many fans as it takes away from them - the people who dislike Mourinho usually dislike the "english" style of play and wouldn't cheer for Chelsea anyway. In fact for me, Mou is the only reason why I ever cheer for Chelsea. Everything else about the club leaves a crappy taste in my mouth, I dislike many of their players (Lampard probably being the only one I find sympathetic and that I want to succeed), I hate the ownership, I hate the ridiculous coach-turnover. But I love Mourinho. There's no other voice in football that I want to listen to more than Mourinho. And this is not like watching a car crash, it's that I think he's a brilliant, hilarious man who is more honest than most others in the business, and I have no problems forgiving him when he steps over the line - which I admit does happen. And Torres? He hasn't had more than two good games in a row since he left Liverpool. And he's had several stretches of 10 bad games. If you've randomly selected 5 Chelsea games from the past 5 years it's very possible that he might have looked decent, but he's really been a complete disaster, and this has nothing to do with Mourinho. He arrived in like 2010?, 3 years before Mourinho, and has been bad the entire time. And see the thing is, Chelsea has been scoring pretty much enough goals. Because their defense has been so strong. (I base this around the fact that their season has actually been a good season, not a bad one like people somehow want to pretend.) But if they had a top striker or striker duo, they would score more goals, and they would not have to concede so few. Lets not forget that his Real Madrid is the team with the record for most goals scored during a season - 121..? If what I said is largely nonsense then what you're saying regarding Mou isn't that much different.. just a difference in opinion. If I read comments on Dutch football websites, there is literally no-one defending Mourinho. Obviously that's not really a sample size, but neither is this topic where you've got a lot of Chelsea supporters (plastic and real). Just because you love Mou, doesn't mean that a whole lot of people aren't disgusted by his antics. Confidence and bravado is one thing, but behaving like a child is another. To be honest, I think you might be one of the few people that actually like Chelsea more because of Mourinho (and Mensol apparently). If I'm to believe Dutch news sources, the majority of people in England dislike him as well. I don't think I'll have to argue that most Spanish people dislike Mourinho. When your best player openly declares (which is unprofessional, but still, he speaks his mind) that he doesn't like the football they're playing, I think that means a lot. I'll concede on Chelsea's strikers.. but my basic point was that Chelsea have enough attacking talent that the constant whining about their strikers is a bit overdone (maybe I worded it a bit strongly). It's just terribly hard to be a striker in the system Chelsea employs, which is pretty much acknowledged by Hazard's action.
I worded myself a bit strong there sorry:p. But anyway, I think there's a huge national divide here, one I've mentioned before.. Dutch people are somehow way, way more negative towards mourinho than other nationalities (at least non-spanish) are. The same comment sections in Norwegian newspapers are dominated (edit: once again a bit strong. but mourinho definitely has a strong and vocal Norwegian fanbase - also people who don't like him though.) by people saying how much they love him. It's kind of a premier league/non premier league thing as well - norwegians who like premier league like mourinho more than the ones who don't.
I mean not that he's not controversial, but there are many people who think he is just.. awesome.
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What do you guys think about Conte?
I dont think i've ever seen Juventus playing other than 3-5-2. Its easy to counter Juventus since they're doing same thing all the time. So Conte is kinda bad imo.
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Valencia up 2-0 after 26 minutes (aggregate 2-2). Seems as if they want to earn themselves a journey to Italy. I guess if they advance Benfica/Juve should have an auto-win because Valencia only wins at home?
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I dont understand Juventus at all. They probably have top 10 defenders in eu, one of the best midfield in the world and strikers like Tevez, Llorante and Osvaldo. Even though have so much quality, they're missing something.
I dont know they're missing but im having difficulties to see Juventus as a big threat like BVB, Atletico Madrid and PSG. They just look a bit weak to me. I just can't see Juve playing CL final.
Am i the only one who thinks like that?
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benfica gonna go full chelsea now
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Norway28814 Posts
damn that wouldve been a nice goal, but correct offside :p
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Red card for Markovic? Really?
Vucinic is the one who started it.
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lol... just end this crap...
benfica playing with 9 what a joke
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This game has some bitch moments.
Valencia playing like a true football team. 3-0 with 1 min to end the match. 30secs after, Sevilla scores a goal and in away goal they advance.
Sevilla and Benfica advance.
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... game just ending when juventus scores or smthing ? done benfica goes to final
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*clap* *clap* *clap* *clap*
two EL finals in a row, gj JJ!
On May 02 2014 05:35 haitike wrote:
Maybe is the coach?
maybe.
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3 Spaniard teams in the uefa cup final!
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EPT
