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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
May 02 2014 10:18 GMT
#5081
The main problem La Liga has is PL stealing most of the spanish talent from teams other than Barça and Madrid: Torres, Mata, Silva, Cazorla, De Gea, Soldado, Negredo, Navas... Everyone should know that by now, been true for a while already.

Now I kinda want Mou to go back to Madrid. Three years in a row falling in semis, first year he is away they go boom straight to the finals (and destroying Bayern in the way), while Mou fails at semis yet again.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 10:42:20
May 02 2014 10:42 GMT
#5082
Yeah but if it isn't the premiership taking the Valencia/Atletico/Bilbao/Sevilla players it is Real. Real took illramendi this season right and have used him in a rotation policy. They also took Isco as well.

Plus you add that the best talent is sucked up at youth level by both Real and Barca as well.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 02 2014 11:39 GMT
#5083
This is not a problem at all. Talent is simply in excess in la liga.
If the spanish would allowed to have 2 national teams they would meet each other in the wc final.

In fact if I were english/bpl fan I would be worried as to why my league relies on foreign talent instead of local.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18631 Posts
May 02 2014 11:58 GMT
#5084
On May 02 2014 20:39 Steveling wrote:
This is not a problem at all. Talent is simply in excess in la liga.
If the spanish would allowed to have 2 national teams they would meet each other in the wc final.

In fact if I were english/bpl fan I would be worried as to why my league relies on foreign talent instead of local.


2 national teams hahaha
There is only one Casillas
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 12:02:48
May 02 2014 11:58 GMT
#5085
Yea we had that discussion some months ago too.
England have been getting a lot worse since 1996 probably. They still do fine these days, but I would not be surprised if they will fall even deeper as soon as the Gerrard/Lampard generation retires.

edit: Sorry, if we want to discuss that any further we should do that in the other thread.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 02 2014 12:04 GMT
#5086
Yeah think we should leave the Spain gosu to Footy thread. Please pick it up there though.

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daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
May 02 2014 14:14 GMT
#5087
On May 02 2014 06:09 bObaZ wrote:
Markovic Did nothing! NOTHING! he only went there to separate vucinic from Artur... If any1 should be sent off should be Artur and Vucinic...
EPIC final minutes. 8 minutes playing with 9 players... EPIC! 3rd game against corrupt teams that we win after a sent off.

GG Uefentus!

Benfica such saints..never do nothing all the other are always the corrupts. In a min i will be reading that Perez sent off was a robbery too...the nerve on some ppl rofl
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
May 02 2014 15:18 GMT
#5088
On May 02 2014 23:14 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 06:09 bObaZ wrote:
Markovic Did nothing! NOTHING! he only went there to separate vucinic from Artur... If any1 should be sent off should be Artur and Vucinic...
EPIC final minutes. 8 minutes playing with 9 players... EPIC! 3rd game against corrupt teams that we win after a sent off.

GG Uefentus!


Benfica such saints..never do nothing all the other are always the corrupts. In a min i will be reading that Perez sent off was a robbery too...the nerve on some ppl rofl


He did two fouls, no leeway whatsoever. Meanwhile, other Juve players were playing dangerously and didn't even get a warning or foul. Markovic did nothing at all there, Vucinic even came ahead and defended Markovic publicly. And I don't think Salvio's yellow was called for, but I'm not too sure of it right now, since I can't rewatch it.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 02 2014 16:04 GMT
#5089
daSilvaz let's not do the Porto vs Benfica thing again
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smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
May 02 2014 16:36 GMT
#5090
Yeah let's stop that. If you want to talk about portuguese football I'd appreciate if you told me how Sporting fits into that picture. I guess Sporting and Benfica hate each other?

And are there teams who regularly come 3rd-6th who can make a suprising championship run?
Just a few hours ago I read that Portugal surpassed Italy in the 5-year ranking. Doesn't change anything regarding CL and EL spots but it still feels cool for this "small league" (or bad for big Serie A)
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 17:02:16
May 02 2014 17:01 GMT
#5091
Markovic and Vucinic are buddies. Vucinic said so himself and claimed he had nothing with Markovic. The ref just needed to unload a red on someone from Benfica to make it fair, he should have picked Artur.

smr,
Sporting has not been menacing in recent decades so the rivalries have become somewhat milder. Sporting vs Benfica is a local derby so it's a bigger game, especially since at the workplace and at schools there are always fans of both. I think right now Benfica vs Porto draws the most hatred as it is the battle for the dominance over PT football and since it also represents good vs evil.

For some time Boavista* were able to compete for the title and actually won once. Braga was also in the competition for the title for a couple of years, but right now no smaller club comes close. Boavista was the last non-big-3 club to win a title (2000-01) since 1946. Other clubs don't have the fan-base and thus the money to sustain competitive squads. The only that possibly could come close is Vitória de Guimarães but they haven't had the competence in leadership for that.

*Boavista was later found to be buying referees, and demoted to the lower leagues for that. Portugal being Portugal, a court later found that the crimes for which Boavista was sentenced had already lapsed (expired?) at the time of the ruling, so they were not valid. As a result, Boavista will play again in the first league next year. Wonderful Cinderella story if Cinderella were actually a crook.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 02 2014 17:07 GMT
#5092
Portuguese League is bad compared to the big 4.. true no portuguese fan will ever say anything against that!

We are a football country, only this sport matters (it's way too much of course) so we follow bundesliga, la liga, premier league and Serie A and of course we know and follow those leagues and they are better.

But it's fun when we can kick their asses hehe :D

We are also a small country so when our national team beats someone noteworthy we will cherish that moment!

I hate Porto(much more) and Sporting but when they win in UEFA i do get proud because it's so hard to compete!

I'm fine if we are the 5th/6th best league in terms of results.. because if you check the money spend and won we are like the 10th league or even worse

It's like:
- England
- Spain
- German
- Italian
- French
- Turkey
- Russian
- PORTUGAL

so it's nice

Our league is only 3 teams - Benfica/33 titles), Porto(27) and Sporting(17) and the only other winners are Belenenses(1) and Boavista(1)!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 02 2014 17:12 GMT
#5093
For those that don't know Benfica is now ranked 6th all time in european finals but we always lose thanks to a goddamn curse
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
May 02 2014 17:32 GMT
#5094
Thanks alot guys. Learned a bit about your league today. Now back to Guardiolas failed tactics : P
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6272 Posts
May 02 2014 17:48 GMT
#5095
On May 03 2014 02:07 shell wrote:
Portuguese League is bad compared to the big 4.. true no portuguese fan will ever say anything against that!

We are a football country, only this sport matters (it's way too much of course) so we follow bundesliga, la liga, premier league and Serie A and of course we know and follow those leagues and they are better.

But it's fun when we can kick their asses hehe :D

We are also a small country so when our national team beats someone noteworthy we will cherish that moment!

I hate Porto(much more) and Sporting but when they win in UEFA i do get proud because it's so hard to compete!

I'm fine if we are the 5th/6th best league in terms of results.. because if you check the money spend and won we are like the 10th league or even worse

It's like:
- England
- Spain
- German
- Italian
- French
- Turkey
- Russian
- PORTUGAL

so it's nice

Our league is only 3 teams - Benfica/33 titles), Porto(27) and Sporting(17) and the only other winners are Belenenses(1) and Boavista(1)!

Sounds a lot like the Netherlands. With Ajax and PSV in the Benfica and Porto roles and Feyenoord like Sporting. We're just terrible in Europe nowadays.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 18:08:51
May 02 2014 18:02 GMT
#5096
Sounds like Turkey too

Galatasaray/19 titles), Fenerbahce(19) and Besiktas(13) and the other winners are Trabzonspor(6) and Bursaspor(1).

Our league is kinda terrible though, we can't attract top players, they all come after they got old. We can't produce talent like Portugal and Netherlands either. We also draw less viewers than bundesliga 2.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 02 2014 21:44 GMT
#5097
[image loading]

damn o.O
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 21:51:11
May 02 2014 21:50 GMT
#5098
That looks weird.

You could add that to the discussion if its the right thing that Guardiola defends corners in a zone coverage.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 19:22:55
May 03 2014 19:22 GMT
#5099
On May 03 2014 06:50 Micro_Jackson wrote:
That looks weird.

You could add that to the discussion if its the right thing that Guardiola defends corners in a zone coverage.


I think playing pure zone the way he does is a terrible idea in general, unless you play a split zone with marking dangermen
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 03 2014 20:38 GMT
#5100
On May 04 2014 04:22 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 06:50 Micro_Jackson wrote:
That looks weird.

You could add that to the discussion if its the right thing that Guardiola defends corners in a zone coverage.


I think playing pure zone the way he does is a terrible idea in general, unless you play a split zone with marking dangermen


I couldn´t find numbers on this but from just watching it defending corners is a thing that improved under Guardiola. Honestly the only goal that i can remember was the 1:0 against real, which was so perfectly executed that the defensive system didn´t matter.

I think the reason Pep plays it is that you can do it consistantly with every lineup. If he plays with Mandzukic, Dante, Boateng and Martinez you could defend men to men but with "small ball" with only one or two of them you couldn´t. So a zone coverage needs less time to practice.
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