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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
July 12 2013 04:49 GMT
#681
On July 12 2013 09:18 Copymizer wrote:
Next season Bayern München will be interesting to see, especially Guardiolas tactics. Interesting info here guys http://www.marca.com/2013/07/11/en/football/international_football/1373527212.html

To be honest, I don't know why Guardiola wants to do mess with tactics. He seems to be fixing something that's been already working flawlessly, basically switching to what he prefered in Barcelona. I wonder what Jupp Heynckes would say about that.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 12 2013 05:15 GMT
#682
Pep seems smarter and smarter everyday.
My guess about the changes in the system, is that he realises barca's potential more than anyone else, he knows he can't count on messi being injured/barca playing bad next year too, so he will make bayern the anti-barca team, given that he knows his previous team inside out.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
July 12 2013 06:53 GMT
#683
On July 12 2013 14:15 Steveling wrote:
Pep seems smarter and smarter everyday.
My guess about the changes in the system, is that he realises barca's potential more than anyone else, he knows he can't count on messi being injured/barca playing bad next year too, so he will make bayern the anti-barca team, given that he knows his previous team inside out.


...are you serious?
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 12 2013 06:55 GMT
#684
It could also make a very good anime.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
July 12 2013 07:03 GMT
#685
On July 12 2013 13:49 wingpawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 09:18 Copymizer wrote:
Next season Bayern München will be interesting to see, especially Guardiolas tactics. Interesting info here guys http://www.marca.com/2013/07/11/en/football/international_football/1373527212.html

To be honest, I don't know why Guardiola wants to do mess with tactics. He seems to be fixing something that's been already working flawlessly, basically switching to what he prefered in Barcelona. I wonder what Jupp Heynckes would say about that.


Every coach has his own thinking of tactics and how to play.

With Van Gaal it was ball possetion and a lot of isolation plays for Ribery/Robben, with Heynkes it was a power football style with a lot of counter pressure and the overloading of the right side. I think this flexibility was a big part why he wanted to go to Bayern, with the players he has he can play almost every thinkable system.

And as you have seen last season with Barcelona, if you dont change and improve you get worse on this level of play.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 12 2013 07:43 GMT
#686
I like the way Pep is going about changing shit with Bayern
Means the 4:1 odds i got on Chelsea beating them in the Super Cup is looking better and better ^_^
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 08:15:26
July 12 2013 08:15 GMT
#687


News

Reports in Italy suggest that AC Milan have reached an agreement with Japanese striker Keisuke Honda. It is believed that he will move to Italy in January after his contract at CSKA Moscow has expired.

Juventus have completed the signing of Angelo Ogbonna from Serie A rivals Torino. The Italy international has penned a five-year contract

Paris St Germain defender Thiago Silva and his agent have moved to bring an end to rumours claiming a deal has been struck with Barcelona.

Luis Suarez also continues to make headlines, with The Sun reporting that Liverpool will not consider any bids below £40milion

Wayne Rooney is also making some of the back pages after having to fly home from Manchester United’s pre-season tour last night with a hamstring injury

Roma defender Marquinhos admits there is interest in his services, but is not expecting a deal to be struck. Free-spending outfits such as Barcelona, Manchester City and Paris St Germain have been credited with holding an interest in the teenage centre-hal

St Etienne goalkeeper Stephane Ruffier has an offer to consider from the Premier League, according to his agent.

Fulham are eyeing a move for Liverpool’s defensive outcast Sebastian Coates, according to the Daily Mirror.

Tom Huddlestone is set to become the latest buy in Paolo Di Canio’s summer spree. It is reported that the Tottenham midfielder can talk to Sunderland after a £5million fee was agreed.

Real Sociedad have signed Switzerland international Haris Seferovic from Fiorentina.

Sky Sports understands Arsenal are ready to step up their interest in Swansea defender Ashley Williams as a result of Thomas Vermaelen's back injury

The agent of Bruma has been reported in Portugal as revealing an offer from Chelsea for the Sporting winger, €8million

Sky Sports understands Newcastle are in talks with PSV over keeper Jeroen Zoet.

Fiorentina midfielder Adem Ljajic is ready to discuss his future with the club after being linked with a move to AC Milan


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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
July 12 2013 09:36 GMT
#688
The agent of Bruma has been reported in Portugal as revealing an offer from Chelsea for the Sporting winger, €8million

There's a huge conflict between the player and his agents and Sporting right now. He claimed yesterday there was an attempt to abduct him by goons hired by Sporting. Really strange stuff. Don't know what can come out of this but don't get excited about him yet.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 12 2013 09:40 GMT
#689
Indeed, but he looked stupidly good vs his own age group in the U20 tournament. Wouldn't mind given him the Chelsea academy treatment to see if he can be made even better.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18478 Posts
July 12 2013 09:49 GMT
#690
On July 12 2013 05:17 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Is anyone besides me watching the Euro Women's Cup? I'm watching Germany vs. the Netherlands, and It's pretty disturbing for two reasons.

1) This is the worst fucking refereeing I've ever seen. I mean yea, I've given FIFA/UEFA refs a lot of shit for bad calls, but holy shit this stuff looks like they pulled some random idiot off the street and put 'em in a ref's uniform. Calls are completely inconsistent, entirely missed, or completely made up when there is no foul at all.

2) The skill being displayed is shockingly terrible. Germany is supposed to be (arguably) the best women's team in the world, and I think they've won the last several Euro's, but fuck, both teams are awful. Horrible strikes, horrible decision-making, everyone's on the ground after the slightest contact, no hustle, wow. And yea, you can just say, "Well it's the women's game", but I've had the lucky pleasure to be widely exposed to the American women's team, and this shit does NOT happen by either the U.S. team or anyone they play. Women's play is hardly this bad, as I've seen it be quite good and very exciting a number of times.

Game just ended 0-0. Literally the single worst fucking game I've ever seen in my life in any sport ever on the professional level.


No sane person would call Germany best women's team in the world, haha.

On July 12 2013 13:49 wingpawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 09:18 Copymizer wrote:
Next season Bayern München will be interesting to see, especially Guardiolas tactics. Interesting info here guys http://www.marca.com/2013/07/11/en/football/international_football/1373527212.html

To be honest, I don't know why Guardiola wants to do mess with tactics. He seems to be fixing something that's been already working flawlessly, basically switching to what he prefered in Barcelona. I wonder what Jupp Heynckes would say about that.


Yeah, especially since he said HE is going to adapt to the players and not the players to HIS system. Man, he already lied in his first weeks.

I predict now that Bayern will do worse under him than Heynkes.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
July 12 2013 10:04 GMT
#691
On July 12 2013 14:15 Steveling wrote:
Pep seems smarter and smarter everyday.
My guess about the changes in the system, is that he realises barca's potential more than anyone else, he knows he can't count on messi being injured/barca playing bad next year too, so he will make bayern the anti-barca team, given that he knows his previous team inside out.


This is a joke, right?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 11:03:28
July 12 2013 11:00 GMT
#692
On July 12 2013 13:49 wingpawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 09:18 Copymizer wrote:
Next season Bayern München will be interesting to see, especially Guardiolas tactics. Interesting info here guys http://www.marca.com/2013/07/11/en/football/international_football/1373527212.html

To be honest, I don't know why Guardiola wants to do mess with tactics. He seems to be fixing something that's been already working flawlessly, basically switching to what he prefered in Barcelona. I wonder what Jupp Heynckes would say about that.


Why hire Pep if you aren't going to let him play his system? If they just wanted a figurehead who would stick to the status quo to be the manager, they would have hired someone else, I'd like to think.

Besides, it's a few friendlies. There's no guarantee that they will play like this during competitive matches.

Relevant article

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The Bavarians won the Bundesliga, Champions League and DFB-Pokal under Guardiola's predecessor Jupp Heynckes last season, playing a different style to the one favoured by the Catalan at his former club Barcelona.

After just over two weeks' working with Guardiola, Lahm acknowledges some things have changed, but says the new coach has not set about revolutionising a side who have just celebrated their most successful season ever.

"Pep Guardiola has his own ideas," Lahm said. "He expects a few things from us, like the way we move or our passing and positional play.

"We're going to have to work on the fine-tuning in the coming weeks, but it's only about small things.

"We are not reinventing football."

Guardiola does not have to change much, either, and perhaps his biggest challenge will be sustaining the hunger levels Bayern showed on their march to glory last term.

Lahm says the Catalan will not have to worry about that, though, as they look to build on a campaign in which they won four trophies - also including the German Supercup - by clinching six in 2013/14.

"We have really good chances to win titles again," the Germany full-back added on his club's website.

"We're certainly not going to get any worse. The competition in the Champions League is obviously extremely hard, though, and we are the ones everybody will be hunting because everybody wants to knock out the holders.

"But nobody need worry that we're going to sit back and relax after winning the treble. The opposite is more likely to be the case because there's a lot still in this side."
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 12:04:27
July 12 2013 12:01 GMT
#693
On July 12 2013 13:49 wingpawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 09:18 Copymizer wrote:
Next season Bayern München will be interesting to see, especially Guardiolas tactics. Interesting info here guys http://www.marca.com/2013/07/11/en/football/international_football/1373527212.html

To be honest, I don't know why Guardiola wants to do mess with tactics. He seems to be fixing something that's been already working flawlessly, basically switching to what he prefered in Barcelona. I wonder what Jupp Heynckes would say about that.

The first mistake when you are ahead of the competition is to think that you are ahead of the competition... In sports and even in a business you need fresh blood, even if you are already the best, to keep being number 1 thanks to new opinions and self-criticism.

In any case, Bayern players are already used to apply most of the tactical concepts that Guardiola loves. Their high pressure style is going to be the base for the new style they'll adopt next year; and it was probably the first thing Pep taught Barcelona's players when he arrived there. Most of Bayern's player already have very good technical skills and are 'football-smart', so he's not going to have to change so much on that aspect. He's really a fan of ball possession and will probably not accept that a player tries to shoot from 40m every 5mn because he will consider that it's a waste of ball possession time.

So maybe the negative effect will be that Bayern become a bit less 'crazy', more predictable, but on the other side they should gain stability and avoid attempts from the opponent. Despite their 'craziness', Bayern has been fantastic on the defense side last year, but was it 'normal' or was it just a sensational season? So I don't see many negative aspect in changing Bayern's playstyle to a more conservative, planified football. This doesn't mean less spectacle! People tend to say that Barcelona have 3 shots a game (at least in this forum) but this is completely wrong, and that only happened when the team was down on every aspect of their game, so...

Wait and see, but I would put say they are the favourite to win the CL next year, as they have not lost any big player and the other favourites are in reconstruction...


Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 12:30:14
July 12 2013 12:28 GMT
#694
http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?storyId=1497311

Replacement for Alonso?

Real Madrid sign illarramendi from sociedad, who has been dubbed as a potential replacement for xabi Alonso for 38 million euros. Seems a lot to me, but its real
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 12:45:33
July 12 2013 12:45 GMT
#695
http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/ajax/21725914/__Acht_miljoen_voor_Alderweireld__.html

Norwich and Ajax are rumored to have agreed to an €8m fee for Belgian international CB Toby Alderweireld. Next season of the Premier League is going to be great, with all the mid-lower table teams making some very smart transfers (except Neuxcastle, hahahaha!).

That fee for Illarramendi is ridiculous. He better be damn good for that much money.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
July 12 2013 13:04 GMT
#696
38 million euros is insane for a kid who hasn't even received an international cap yet
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 13:25:47
July 12 2013 13:25 GMT
#697
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Pics of the kit that i got that i was talking about a few pages ago. I actually got to watch the numbers and stuff get patched/pressed on to the jerseys. Decided against a getting a name on the back
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 12 2013 13:32 GMT
#698
im surprised none of you put Hagi in top 10 players of all time list.

If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 12 2013 14:47 GMT
#699
Nice work Tazza, looks good!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
MagickMan
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia498 Posts
July 12 2013 14:56 GMT
#700
Norwich are also "rumoured" so have sign Leroy Fer subject to a medical, he was seen having dinner at Carrow Road. Not a fan of the way Hughton plays but he is definitely making some good signings, as long as he doesn't get Toivenen.
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