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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
July 11 2013 16:23 GMT
#661
Welcome to the wonderful world of football agents and owning player rights in South America
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
July 11 2013 16:24 GMT
#662
40m to Neymar and his father in commission is absolutely unbelievable.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 16:28:01
July 11 2013 16:27 GMT
#663
Yeah, so basically the transfer itself was only about €17.1m, a decent price, then the other €40m was a signing bonus for his contract and the "commission."

Apparently this is the leaked document. Source
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
July 11 2013 16:28 GMT
#664
Wonder if the deal Real Madrid offered had a '40m to Neymar' clause in it, or if that impacted which team he chose in the end..
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
mavignon
Profile Joined November 2010
France369 Posts
July 11 2013 18:12 GMT
#665
That's so wrong that they use Ballon d'Or voting for primes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 11 2013 18:14 GMT
#666
Wow what the fuck, why does someone need to be paid €40million to play for Barcelona, da fuck
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
July 11 2013 18:36 GMT
#667
Well, that 40 million fee for Neymar is plain stupid and basically kills any rudiments of free transfer market in football. I mean normally, clubs compete for players' signatures by offering higher fees and wages BUT, as a flipside to that, players have to also compete between each other by knowing that if they demand too much, their potential buyers might turn his back on them and hire someone else for more reasonable price. Apparently, that mechanism of keeping wage and fee hyperinflation died. Top tier teams somehow cannot stand failed negotiations and allow those absurd deals to happen. Is it because they are so determined not to let their targets to join direct Champions League rivals --- or perhaps they just assume there are no players of Neymar's potential anywhere available? Either way, now that the last bastion of transfer reason is out of the game (Sir Alex Ferguson) I'm expecting it getting even more nonsensical in forthcoming years.

However, there's always a chance that some of those 40 millions were actually transfered 'behind the scenes' to Santos in order to avoid taxing or something. Or at least there are some complicated achievement clauses Neymar has to complete in order to ever see that kind of money. That or Barcelona's management just went full retard.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
July 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#668
its not like they "just" went full retard. As a lot of people already have pointed out, their history is full with aweful decisions ( from a business perspective).
This is our town, scrub
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 20:19:22
July 11 2013 20:17 GMT
#669
Is anyone besides me watching the Euro Women's Cup? I'm watching Germany vs. the Netherlands, and It's pretty disturbing for two reasons.

1) This is the worst fucking refereeing I've ever seen. I mean yea, I've given FIFA/UEFA refs a lot of shit for bad calls, but holy shit this stuff looks like they pulled some random idiot off the street and put 'em in a ref's uniform. Calls are completely inconsistent, entirely missed, or completely made up when there is no foul at all.

2) The skill being displayed is shockingly terrible. Germany is supposed to be (arguably) the best women's team in the world, and I think they've won the last several Euro's, but fuck, both teams are awful. Horrible strikes, horrible decision-making, everyone's on the ground after the slightest contact, no hustle, wow. And yea, you can just say, "Well it's the women's game", but I've had the lucky pleasure to be widely exposed to the American women's team, and this shit does NOT happen by either the U.S. team or anyone they play. Women's play is hardly this bad, as I've seen it be quite good and very exciting a number of times.

Game just ended 0-0. Literally the single worst fucking game I've ever seen in my life in any sport ever on the professional level.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 20:31:50
July 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#670
I watched Norway versus Island, Island was fighting the whole of the second half but there was some truly pathetic finishing from them...but it was cute. In the end you don't watch womens football expecting mens lvl of play.
Oh and apparently fans from Sweden and Denmark clashed in the streets, don't think they really care who is playing

EDIT: oh and women referee's are lol, some of them are really good but the overall level is appalling
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
July 11 2013 20:40 GMT
#671
On July 12 2013 05:17 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Is anyone besides me watching the Euro Women's Cup? I'm watching Germany vs. the Netherlands, and It's pretty disturbing for two reasons.

1) This is the worst fucking refereeing I've ever seen. I mean yea, I've given FIFA/UEFA refs a lot of shit for bad calls, but holy shit this stuff looks like they pulled some random idiot off the street and put 'em in a ref's uniform. Calls are completely inconsistent, entirely missed, or completely made up when there is no foul at all.

2) The skill being displayed is shockingly terrible. Germany is supposed to be (arguably) the best women's team in the world, and I think they've won the last several Euro's, but fuck, both teams are awful. Horrible strikes, horrible decision-making, everyone's on the ground after the slightest contact, no hustle, wow. And yea, you can just say, "Well it's the women's game", but I've had the lucky pleasure to be widely exposed to the American women's team, and this shit does NOT happen by either the U.S. team or anyone they play. Women's play is hardly this bad, as I've seen it be quite good and very exciting a number of times.

Game just ended 0-0. Literally the single worst fucking game I've ever seen in my life in any sport ever on the professional level.

The German team has lost like 5 or 6 key players to injuries before the Euro Cup. But frankly, even without injuries, Germany would not be as good as they have been in the past.

And still a draw vs the Netherlands is a very bad result.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4025 Posts
July 11 2013 23:19 GMT
#672
Anouk Hoogendijk. The results don't matter .
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
July 12 2013 00:04 GMT
#673


Southampton sign Victor Wanyama. That midfield is going to tear up the Prem...
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 12 2013 00:13 GMT
#674
wtf how did they get him before arsenal
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2109 Posts
July 12 2013 00:18 GMT
#675
Next season Bayern München will be interesting to see, especially Guardiolas tactics. Interesting info here guys http://www.marca.com/2013/07/11/en/football/international_football/1373527212.html
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
July 12 2013 00:33 GMT
#676
On July 12 2013 09:18 Copymizer wrote:
Next season Bayern München will be interesting to see, especially Guardiolas tactics. Interesting info here guys http://www.marca.com/2013/07/11/en/football/international_football/1373527212.html


"No room for wingers?" This team is going to be fascinating to watch.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51712 Posts
July 12 2013 02:58 GMT
#677
Sucks for Ribery though, hard to find a place for him in that line-up.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 12 2013 03:02 GMT
#678
Look what i've found haha.



It was even more scary in last year manu v gala.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 04:25:57
July 12 2013 04:24 GMT
#679
On July 12 2013 11:58 GTR wrote:
Sucks for Ribery though, hard to find a place for him in that line-up.


I read that apparently they had Ribery playing as like a second striker. And that article said Robben played the "Messi role," so maybe Ribery can as well?

Edit: Well, maybe not now that Goetze is fit
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
July 12 2013 04:43 GMT
#680
Just started to read Ibra's autobiography book (DLed it from thepiratebay)
The guy shits on guardiola from the very beginning of it lol
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