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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On August 19 2013 21:09 Sated wrote: It is a little low, but I wouldn't call it a steal. Baines is obviously English, so he's going to cost more than he is actually worth no matter what happens =P If I were Everton I would sell for no less than 50 million. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
-----RVP Welbek Kagawa RW Felaini CM Is the way i would start Yanited | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Arsenal make a bid for Newcastle's Yohan Cabaye Newcastle Reject Arsenal's bid for Yohan Cabaye; Bid was "around" £10million Oh Arsenal xD What a lame bid xd | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8865 Posts
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On August 20 2013 00:14 evilfatsh1t wrote: after seeing carrick last season i would say id have carrick over fellaini any day. not as good defensively but without him and rooney our passing turns to absolute shit Yeah Carrick is better. Fellaini is good, but hes just not an intelligent ball keeper, we have vidic rio van rooney ect for aerial threat already and we don't have an issue scoring goals, and our defence is pretty solid, so all of those three key features of fellaini are not really needed. We want a player who can keep hold of the ball well, and make good short passing, and dictate the tempo, ie a young scholes lol. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Clearly the picture says it all from the Swansea goal celebrations. When a player like Rooney doesn't celebrate a goal with the team it shows he is very unhappy and is making a point. I'd start thinking that he is going to leave sooner than later, just because the fact is an unhappy Rooney is going to be a 1/3 of the player a happy Rooney is. Also Moyes being manager doesn't help as the whole court case they had between eachother over comments Rooney made in his Autobiography haven't helped that situation! | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On August 20 2013 00:45 Pandemona wrote: Why do you both act like Rooney wants to stay and will be apart of the team ;_; Clearly the picture says it all from the Swansea goal celebrations. When a player like Rooney doesn't celebrate a goal with the team it shows he is very unhappy and is making a point. I'd start thinking that he is going to leave sooner than later, just because the fact is an unhappy Rooney is going to be a 1/3 of the player a happy Rooney is. Also Moyes being manager doesn't help as the whole court case they had between eachother over comments Rooney made in his Autobiography haven't helped that situation! There's what, 6-7 players celebrating in that picture? I guess half of United's lineup doesn't want to play there anymore. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On August 20 2013 00:49 Ferrose wrote: There's what, 6-7 players celebrating in that picture? I guess half of United's lineup doesn't want to play there anymore. Yeah its funny that people show that picture as if it speaks a thousands words, instead of the one of him waving and clapping the fans in the same game. ![[image loading]](http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1184854_10151629718594514_1068716216_n.jpg) | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
On August 19 2013 23:46 Pandemona wrote: Arsenal make a bid for Newcastle's Yohan Cabaye Newcastle Reject Arsenal's bid for Yohan Cabaye; Bid was "around" £10million Oh Arsenal xD What a lame bid xd + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/aebGz0xjYk9lcjxE2u1NAg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/blogs/early-doors/wengerbad.jpg) | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8865 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Agnosthar
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DragoonPK
3259 Posts
On August 20 2013 01:29 Agnosthar wrote: This is going to be Coutinho's season, I don't think people realise how good he is yet. this. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On August 20 2013 00:49 Ferrose wrote: There's what, 6-7 players celebrating in that picture? I guess half of United's lineup doesn't want to play there anymore. Is like the whole team...only 11 on the pitch. Keeper isn't going to run over that leaves 10. On August 20 2013 01:02 Sated wrote: Cleverly isn't a defensive midfielder, so comparing him to Fellaini is a bit silly. If you really think Fellaini is a better footballer than Carrick then I don't even know how to respond to that... EDIT: Playing Fellaini alongside Carrick would be amazing because you've got ridiculous passing ability alongside someone who is a genuine ball-winner, but I really don't think that Fellaini is anywhere near as good as Carrick at retaining possession, picking passes, and actually passing the ball. We definitely do need a strong central midfield presence because there were a lot of games last season were our midfield looked a little fragile, especially when we were playing Carrick and Scholes alongside each other as the deep-lying pair, but what our midfield does not lack is players who are good with the ball at their feet. Shame we couldn't keep Pogba. What a beast T_T Fellaini plays in arguably one of the most packed national team midfielders since Spain and Brazil's, he gets in everytime. He also is better than Carrick, by a long mile as he offers more to a game than Carrick. Carrick is a "pirlo" type holding midfielder, isn't a good tackler but is a good passer. If he gets the "time" he can be a match winner, but you don't get any time in the premiership and thats when midfielders get found wanting. Like i said everyone but Man Utd fans see Carrick as below par, so that i can understand in your response. But trust me as i would fear a Fellaini + 1 midfield more than a Carrick Cleverley mifield by a longggggg way. On August 20 2013 01:29 Agnosthar wrote: This is going to be Coutinho's season, I don't think people realise how good he is yet. He needs to beef up and have a good season, no question the talent is there, but against Stoke he was no means the best player on the pitch, and didn't really "catch the eye" so to speak. I do expect good things from him also | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 20 2013 02:17 Sated wrote: In any case, people have been under-rating our midfield for years and look where that's got them. As far as fan's opinions go, we seem to have the most under-rated midfield players in the league... So true, I feel like United fans have come to expect so much from their midfield that they treat some rather good players as if they wouldn't be in the first team of stoke. That said, I do feel United could use a player like Fellaini in midfield and personally would like to see Baines replace Evra in the coming seasons. Netiher are a real must, but it could make the difference between being league winners or champions league winners, especially if Rooney stays at United. edit:sp | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On August 20 2013 02:17 Sated wrote: In any case, people have been under-rating our midfield for years and look where that's got them. As far as fan's opinions go, we seem to have the most under-rated midfield players in the league... Yeah it is a bit of a shame because Carrick has played really well last season and got a shit ton of stick for doing a pretty good job. That having been said alot of weakness was masked by Uniteds ability on the flank and well.. RVP. Fellaini would certainly be a step up because he would alot more involved than a Carrick and is just a better player than Cleverly (who isnt half bad). To me Fellaini will bring you so many more intangibles that a pivot player simply cant. He will score you more goals when you need them, sure united have plenty of aerial threats, doesn't hurt to have one more does it ? He can be more aggressive because he has the ability to cover when he does go forward. And in general there will be games where he simply takes over the midfield. Carrick or Cleverly dont really offer these things at the level he does. But Carrick is valuable in the role he performs. But honestly if Kagawa finds form, then you've got decent enough depth and they dont really need anyone for the first team per say, atleast for league teams. | ||
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