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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 20:25:49
June 09 2013 20:25 GMT
#121
Shameful play from the Germans, losing in a pretty boring match against Spain 0-1. Then again, when you don't bring any of your good players, you probably aren't going to deserve to expect anything better. None of the players have been even remotely convincing, either, with terrible passes, poor touches, and skeptical decision-making throughout the entire team. I doubt one game against Russia is going to show us much potential, either.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 20:33:44
June 09 2013 20:31 GMT
#122
Spain was much better and won well deserved. They actually should have won higher.
Still I am not upset. Its U21 after all, and Germany has rarely done good there and it has also never been a high priority. The important thing is that 3 or 4 good players come out of every generation.

Spain is looking really good though. Seems like we can expect them to dominate in the future as well with the same playing style.
Off-season = best season
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
June 09 2013 21:51 GMT
#123
On June 10 2013 05:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Shameful play from the Germans, losing in a pretty boring match against Spain 0-1. Then again, when you don't bring any of your good players, you probably aren't going to deserve to expect anything better. None of the players have been even remotely convincing, either, with terrible passes, poor touches, and skeptical decision-making throughout the entire team. I doubt one game against Russia is going to show us much potential, either.


After this U21 Euros I just hope were going to win a title with our current generation because as you could see the next generation is going to suck hard :D Germany is going to be behind for decades.
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Ingebrigtsen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway343 Posts
June 10 2013 01:10 GMT
#124
To be fair, this germany side could field some amazing players, gotze for instance
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 18:29:49
June 11 2013 08:01 GMT
#125


Group A - Matchday 3

[image loading] Israel vs [image loading] England

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[image loading] Israel 1-0 England[image loading]


[image loading] Norwary 1-1 [image loading] Italy

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[image loading] Norwary TBA Italy[image loading]

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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 08:40:31
June 11 2013 08:40 GMT
#126
On June 10 2013 06:51 TerransHill wrote:
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On June 10 2013 05:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Shameful play from the Germans, losing in a pretty boring match against Spain 0-1. Then again, when you don't bring any of your good players, you probably aren't going to deserve to expect anything better. None of the players have been even remotely convincing, either, with terrible passes, poor touches, and skeptical decision-making throughout the entire team. I doubt one game against Russia is going to show us much potential, either.


After this U21 Euros I just hope were going to win a title with our current generation because as you could see the next generation is going to suck hard :D Germany is going to be behind for decades.

For decades? You are quite the doomsayer ^^

4 years ago Germany won the U-17 Euro Cup with Götze among others, it was the very same "generation" we have seen in this tournament.

The importance of youth tournaments is wildly overstated, Argentina won the U-20 world cup 5 out of 7 times between 1995 and 2007! It had not much of a positive effect on the performances of the national team.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28792 Posts
June 11 2013 10:04 GMT
#127
germany has an amazing talent pool. best in the world alongside brazil and spain.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28792 Posts
June 11 2013 18:00 GMT
#128
dang
almost won the group! :D
not that it matters as netherlands and spain are pretty evenly matched. I guess we'd have a slightly better chance vs holland but I think we're slightly more likely to face them in semi after losing than after winning.

would've been sweet if norway did win though, spain vs netherlands would be hilarious then, with both teams prolly wanting #2 in their group.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 11 2013 18:27 GMT
#129
FUCK
I made a booboo, was 5pm bst kick off not 7pm ;_;
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
June 12 2013 03:29 GMT
#130
Jeez, if Pearce isn't sacked as manager, I'd be really surprised.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 12 2013 07:40 GMT
#131
Yeah i believe his contract has run out now (finished after the tournament) i highly doubt it will be renewed. What we need as U21 manager is a youth team/reserve coach from Arsenal/Chelsea or one that has been around for a while. Is used to working with kids and likes to teach them how to play football. That is the only way it will work with what the stupid FA want us to play like.

Oh well, another batch of wasters inc for the National team xD
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 12 2013 07:46 GMT
#132


Group B - Matchday 3

[image loading] Spain vs [image loading] Netherlands

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[image loading] Spain TBA Netherlands[image loading]




[image loading] Russia vs [image loading] Germany

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[image loading] Russia TBA Germany[image loading]

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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 12 2013 07:56 GMT
#133
On June 12 2013 16:40 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i believe his contract has run out now (finished after the tournament) i highly doubt it will be renewed. What we need as U21 manager is a youth team/reserve coach from Arsenal/Chelsea or one that has been around for a while. Is used to working with kids and likes to teach them how to play football. That is the only way it will work with what the stupid FA want us to play like.

Oh well, another batch of wasters inc for the National team xD


When you have a team full of benched players and players playing in second leagues etc., you obviously won't win youth tournaments. The British leagues are stocked with foreigners, talents from different countries, you name it. Pretty obvious why England sucks at youth tournaments/eurocups/world cups.

A coach can't change anything when his material is bad. Pearce likely did a fine job anyway. Not his fault his players suck.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 08:16:25
June 12 2013 08:15 GMT
#134
But look at the team that played most of the games.

In goal Butland, rated as the best keeper to come out of the ranks in a long time. Played in the Olympics team where they lost on penalties, got a big move to Stoke from Birmingham after rejecting Chelsea. He played like shit.

Defensively the team was the worst i have seen in ages. Stephen Caulker plays CB for spurs, played against Inter Milan etc in the Europa League has vast of experience and played in the Olympics too. Danny Rose LB, played for Sunderland the whole season in the premier league and is on loan from Spurs. Dawson plays for West Brom and played a few times this season as well so he has premier leaegue experience. The only issue i had is a guy called Smith played across the back 4 which he shouldn't have. Andre Wisdom should of played there as he has experience playing in the Europa with Liverpool (and did well) and the premiership with Liverpool. That is the first mistake of Pearce so far

Midfield. Henderson, plays for Liverpool every game, is vastly experienced and young. Should of dominated the midfield, he didn't. Chalobah, an excellent young prospect who is slightly cocky so he is never affraid, good feat to have i guess for a playmaker midfielder and didn't do much wrong. Jason Lowe is the only issue i have that played in midfield again, it should of been someone else with more experience playing alongside Chalobah and Henderson. Shelvy/Mchearan are clearly better candidates than he is. 2nd mistake made from Pearce as manager.

Then attacking wise we probably have 3 great attackers. I mean they have everything, pace - vision - finishing - ability to take people on - skill, you name it whatever you want from a striker in terms of young and raw talent the 3 England played with had that, they just didn't get the ball as the rest of the team were making mistakes. Nor when they had the ball did their defense help out and not concede sloppy goals.
Zaha - Plays for Man Utd now and came off the back of getting Crystal Palace promoted on his own basically
Ince - One of the most sort after players since he left Liverpool. Scoring great goals for Blackpool every week
Redmond - Very raw but but extremely quick and he relished his chance of being at this tournament. Played as if he wanted to impress

So imo 2 reasons England were shit this tournament. Game 1 - Manager and shit defense, the team he picked was silly, and the tactics he told them to play were shocking. From a guy who is a defender from his time as a player can't set a team out to defend properly and go long ball, and still get WTF owned is just stupid.
Game 2 - England play great passing, actually look nice on the ball, and get WTF owned on the counter attack due to again their defense and keeper being woeful. It was stupidly easy for Norway to get in behind them and yes they showed a touch of class in the finishing department but still was so easy for them. Other than that, going forward in that game we looked alot better and probably kept the ball 100x better than the first team do.

So imo, the main blame is down to Pearce being a shocking coach and 2 some of the players not turning up/being coached properly.

Still i agree we would never of won, but was no question we could not of got out of this group with what we had and then to take on Spain/Netherlands in the semi final.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 12:13:55
June 14 2013 07:55 GMT
#135

Semi Final


[image loading] Spain vs [image loading] Norway

Kick Off 15th June 15:30 GMT (+00:00)


Team News

+ Show Spoiler [Spain] +

Lopetegui said he is hopeful midfielder Ignacio Camacho will recover from the ankle injury he suffered against the Netherlands. "He's got a chance of being fit and that's what we're working towards," said the coach, who otherwise has no injury doubts.


+ Show Spoiler [Norway] +

Fredrik Semb Berge came through his first full training session on Thursday since the England game and Skullerud confirmed in his press conference he has a full squad to choose from. "We go into tomorrow with all 23 players ready to play," he said.


+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading] Spain 3-0 Norway[image loading]




[image loading] Italy vs [image loading] Netherlands

Kick Off 15th June 18:30 GMT (+00:00)


Team News

+ Show Spoiler [Italy] +

Mangia said Insigne's availability would be considered only after Friday evening's training session. The SSC Napoli midfielder sustained an ankle injury against Israel and has not played since. Mattia Destro and Bertolacci started training alongside Insigne, away from the rest of the squad, but are expected to be available. When questioned how he would choose which attacking players he would pick, the coach quipped: "I throw the shirts in the air and the first two that get them will play."


+ Show Spoiler [Netherlands] +

Bram Nuytinck is out of the tournament because of a knee injury sustained in the 3-0 loss to Spain. Pot, who otherwise has a fully-fit squad, says he will pick "more or less" the same team that started against Germany and Russia.


+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading] Italy 1-0 Netherlands[image loading]

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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 14 2013 08:04 GMT
#136
Are you wary of Norway, Pandemona?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 08:24:59
June 14 2013 08:24 GMT
#137
What do you mean ? xD Oh i see rofl ;_;
Good spot
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 16:17:00
June 15 2013 15:57 GMT
#138
Did anyone just see that strike from Montoya. Holy shit. Corner comes in cleared in the air to about 30/35yards out and Montoya smacks it on the volley and it goes at like 100mph towards the keeper who did well to save it. Then rodrigo gets the follow up but hits the post then a Spanish guy dived and got booked.
Was still an asbolute sweet strike. Would of been some goal if went in

GOOOALLLLLLLL SPAINNNNNNNN

1-0. Looked like Norway fell asleep defending the second ball from the corner and FINALLY Rodrigo pops up with a goal in the tournament! 1-0 Spain, throughly deserved though
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
June 15 2013 16:34 GMT
#139
Isco is scary good... Spain is just too good for this championship Too bad we don't see every country put their best players in this tournament (Germany being the best example)...
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6273 Posts
June 15 2013 18:33 GMT
#140
Go NL ^^ and gz to Spain for reaching the finals.
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