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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
![[image loading]](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqi9Are6vShhIbURWTfl9lFJ96H3rA6BijsW2rG8g9FR5UMqiy) European U21 Championships 2013Location: Israel!Date: 5th June - 18th June 2013+ Show Spoiler [Locations] +
Jerusalem
Petah Tikva
Netanya
Tel Aviv
![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Flag_of_Israel.svg/22px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png) Israel+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: Boris Klaiman - Barak Levi - Arik Yanko
Defenders: Eli Dasa - Ofir Davidzada - Ido Levy - Ben Vehava - Adi Gotlieb - Taleb Twatiha - Ofer Verta - Omri Ben Harush
Midfielders: Marwan Kabha - Yisrael Zaguri - Nir Biton (c) - Eyal Golasa - Sintayehu Sallallich - Ahad Azam - Omri Altman - Ofir Kriaf
Forwards: Mohammed Kalibat - Moanes Dabour - Orr Barouch - Alon Turgeman
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/22px-Flag_of_England.svg.png) England+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: Jack Butland - Jason Steele - Declan Rudd
Defenders: Nathaniel Clyne - Adam Smith - Steven Caulker - Andre Wisdom - Craig Dawson - Tom Lees - Jack Robinson - Jason Lowe
Midfielders: Danny Rose - Nathaniel Chalobah - Josh McEachran - Wilfried Zaha - Tom Ince - Henri Lansbury - Jonjo Shelvey - Nathan Redmond
Forwards: Nathan Delfouneso - Marvin Sordell - Connor Wickham
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Flag_of_Norway.svg/22px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png) Norway+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: Arild Østbø - Ørjan Nyland - Gudmund Kongshavn
Defenders: Martin Linnes - Thomas Rogne - Stefan Strandberg - Vegar Eggen Hedenstad
Midfielders: Harmeet Singh - Valon Berisha - Markus Henriksen - Håvard Nordtveit - Yann-Erik de Lanlay - Anders Konradsen - Magnus Wolff Eikrem - Stefan Johansen - Abdisalam Ibrahim
Forwards: Omar Elabdellaoui - Jo Inge Berget - Marcus Pedersen - Håvard Nielsen - Fredrik Semb Berge - Flamur Kastrati - Joshua King
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/03/Flag_of_Italy.svg/22px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png) Italy+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: Francesco Bardi - Simone Colombi - Nicola Leali
Defenders: Giulio Donati - Cristiano Biraghi - Marco Capuano - Luca Caldirola - Matteo Bianchetti - Vasco Regini
Midfielders: Marco Verratti - Alessandro Florenzi - Luca Marrone - Lorenzo Insigne - Nicola Sansone - Andrea Bertolacci - Riccardo Saponara - Fausto Rossi - Marco Crimi
Forwards: Ciro Immobile - Manolo Gabbiadini - Mattia Destro - Alberto Paloschi - Fabio Borini
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Spain.svg/22px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png) Spain+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: David De Gea - Diego Mariño - Joel Robles
Defenders: Martín Montoya - Nacho - Marc Bartra - Marc Muniesa - Álvaro González - Alberto Moreno - Daniel Carvajal
Midfielders: Asier Illarramendi - Iñigo Martínez - Sergio Canales - Koke - Thiago Alcântara - Ignacio Camacho - Pablo Sarabia - Isco
Forwards: Rodrigo - Cristian Tello - Álvaro Morata - Iker Muniain - Álvaro Vázquez
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png) Netherlands+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: Jeroen Zoet - Marco Bizot - Nick Marsman
Defenders: Ricardo van Rhijn - Stefan de Vrij - Bruno Martins Indi - Daley Blind - Mike van der Hoorn - Bram Nuytinck - Patrick van Aanholt
Midfielders: Jordy Clasie - Georginio Wijnaldum - Kevin Strootman - Adam Maher - Kelvin Leerdam - Leroy Fer - Marco van Ginkel - Tonny Vilhena
Forwards: Luuk de Jong - Ola John - Florian Jozefzoon - Jürgen Locadia - Memphis
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f3/Flag_of_Russia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png) Russia+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: Nikolai Zabolotny - Stanislav Kritsyuk - Aleksandr Filtsov
Defenders: Ibragim Tsallagov - Georgi Schennikov - Nikita Chicherin - Taras Burlak - Sergei Bryzgalov - Maksim Belyayev - Ivan Knyazev
Midfielders: Yuri Kirillov - Sergei Petrov - Oleg Shatov - Roman Yemelyanov - Maksim Grigoryev - Shota Bibilov - Aleksandr Zotov - Alan Dzagoev
Forwards: Aleksandr Kokorin - Fyodor Smolov - Maksim Kanunnikov - Pavel Yakovlev - Denis Cheryshev
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Germany.svg/22px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png) Germany+ Show Spoiler [Squad] +
Goalkeepers: Bernd Leno - Oliver Baumann - Timo Horn
Defenders: Tony Jantschke - Stefan Thesker - Lasse Sobiech - Shkodran Mustafi - Matthias Ginter - Sead Kolašinac - Oliver Sorg - Antonio Rüdiger
Midfielders: Sebastian Rudy - Patrick Funk - Sebastian Rode - Lewis Holtby - Patrick Herrmann - Christian Clemens - Christoph Moritz - Emre Can
Forwards: Kevin Volland - Peniel Mlapa - Sebastian Polter - Pierre-Michel Lasogga
Ivan Bebek (Croatia) Serhiy Boiko (Ukraine) Antony Gautier (France) Paweł Gil (Poland) Ovidiu Haţegan (Romania) Matej Jug (Slovenia) Stadiums!+ Show Spoiler [Stadiums] +Teddy Stadium - Jerusalem - Capacity: 33,500 ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Teddy_Kollek_Stadium_-_Inside.JPG/200px-Teddy_Kollek_Stadium_-_Inside.JPG) HaMoshava Stadium - Petah Tikva - Capacity: 11,500 ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/HaMoshava_Stadium_%284%29.JPG/200px-HaMoshava_Stadium_%284%29.JPG) Netanya Stadium - Netanya - Capacity: 13,800 ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Netanya-Stadium_33.JPG/200px-Netanya-Stadium_33.JPG) Bloomfield Stadium - Tel Aviv - Capacity: 14,413 ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Bloomfield_Stadium21.jpg/200px-Bloomfield_Stadium21.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OSZ2FgC.jpg) Group A Fixtures+ Show Spoiler [Fixtures] +Group A Results+ Show Spoiler [Results!] +Group B![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/04WXRel.jpg) Group B Fixtures+ Show Spoiler [Fixtures] +Group B Results+ Show Spoiler [Results] +Semi Final Spain vs NorwayKick Off 15th June 15:30 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Result!] + Spain 3-0 Norway vs NetherlandsKick Off 15th June 18:30 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Result!] + Italy 1-0 Netherlands vs Italy Kick Off 16:00 GMT (+00:00)Location: Teddy Stadium - Jerusalem+ Show Spoiler [Result!] + Spain 4-2 Italy Spain
Since Israel was announced as host there have been calls to boycott the tournament. The most prominent petition against the tournament taking place in Israel is organised by Palestine Solidarity Campaign which demands UEFA President Michel Platini reverse his decision. Another petition organised by Muslim Public Affairs Committee UK demands that UEFA move the tournament to England after The Daily Mail and The Jewish Chronicle reported that UEFA considered asking The FA to be on standby if the Gaza-Israel conflict continued.
Another petition, organised by former Tottenham Hotspur footballer Frédéric Kanouté, also gained media attention but attracted criticism when some of the names listed on it were disputed. Didier Drogba, for example, claimed he never signed the petition and his name was removed from the list.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Poll: Winners?Spain (9) 26% Netherlands (9) 26% Germany (9) 26% Italy (5) 15% England (1) 3% Other (1) 3% 34 total votes Your vote: Winners? (Vote): Spain
(Vote): England
(Vote): Netherlands
(Vote): Italy
(Vote): Germany
(Vote): Other
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Netherlands actually has a decent shot at this. Lots of A-internationals are actually in this team. I would add Adam Maher to be among 'the players to look out for'.
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Agree Twisted, this looks like one of our best under 21 sides in a decade.  Really looking forward to this tournament.
On May 29 2013 19:47 Pandemona wrote:How come that speedy Left Back you had which your team took the the European Championships last year isn't in the squad? I thought he was like 19/20 when he went? TY Twisted 
You mean Willems? He isn't good enough.
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For Germany look out for Kevin Volland. He has a bright future and is considered to be the next star. Dortmund and Leverkusen already seem interested in a transfer.
Sadly our big guns (Draxler+Götze) quickly outgrew the youth squad, so they wont play. With them we might be among the favourites.
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I seriously don't understand why Draxler and Schürrle are with the german national team in the USA. For some friendly games.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On June 03 2013 01:41 Ethi wrote:
I seriously don't understand why Draxler and Schürrle are with the german national team in the USA. For some friendly games.
100% agree, it's the same with England. Oxlade Chamberlin played like shite for the mens team, why not give him a pressured tournament atmosphere and let him play in that instead of being worthless in friendlies.
Guess some national teams need to realize how much performance enhancing a tournament atmosphere actually is for players growing up!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Group A - Matchday 1 Israel vs NorwaryKick Off 16:00 GMT (+00:00)Location: Netanya Stadium; Netanya+ Show Spoiler [Result!] + Israel 2 - 2 Norwary
• The Israel squad is free of injury as Munas Dabbur, Orr Barouch and Edi Gotlib are all over the setbacks that sidelined them for the back end of the domestic season.
• The team paid a visit to Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before the opening match. Netanyahu asked the team to represent Israel with honour and added: "Sometimes I try to play football myself but it doesn't end well."
• Guy Luzon, who will leave after the tournament to coach Belgian side R. Standard de Liège, said of the opening match: "It will be the most exciting day of my life."
• Three days before their opener against Norway, the players and staff attended Eyal Golan's show in Jerusalem. A former footballer, Golan is now a professional music artist who wrote, and sings, the official tournament song.
• There are no fresh injury concerns for coach Tor Ole Skullerud since AZ Alkmaar midfielder Markus Henriksen replaced defender Alexander Groven, ruled out with a thigh injury on Monday.
• Valon Berisha, Joshua King, Håvard Nordtveit and Henriksen are part of the senior squad to face Albania in a FIFA World Cup qualifier on Friday, therefore missing Norway's Group B opener.
• "We are looking forward to playing against the best young players in Europe, and we know that we have lots of quality in our side as well. Our aim has to be to compete for top spot in the group," said former Manchester United FC striker King.
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Group A - Matchday 1 England vs ItalyKick Off 18:30 GMT (+00:00)Location: Bloomfield Stadium; Tel Aviv + Show Spoiler [Result!] + England TBA Italy
• England arrived in Israel on Sunday having enjoyed a pre-tournament camp in Belek, Turkey.
• Midfielder Ince said those few days acted as good preparation for the conditions in Israel, adding that "we've as good a chance as anyone of winning".
• Manager Pearce has a fully fit squad to choose from with only Wilfried Zaha not taking part in full training on Monday morning at the squad's base in Caesarea.
• Having helped Crystal Palace FC into the Premier League via last week's play-off final, the winger – who is joining Manchester United FC this summer – completed his own training session but is not a major doubt for Wednesday's opener against Italy.
• The players watched the England senior team draw 2-2 against Brazil in their hotel on Sunday night, though goalkeeper Butland said a few of the team went to bed early and missed the late goals.
• Italy won 5-0 against AS Varese's youth side on Friday at Milanello. Alessandro Florenzi, Mattia Destro, Paloschi, Fausto Rossi and Lorenzo Insigne scored the goals and Devis Mangia's squad travelled to Tel Aviv the following day.
• On Sunday, midfielder Luca Marrone (thigh) started to train with the Azzurrini, and while attacking midfielder Insigne picked up a little knock to the knee, he said on Monday that "the problem is getting better, I will see today and tomorrow, then I will decide on my availability with the coach".
• Empoli FC duo Riccardo Saponara and Vasco Regini joined the squad on Monday, after their club's Serie B play-off defeat by AS Livorno Calcio.
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Rode not bolded? I am very disappointed
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Sorry ;_;
Germany haven't really been shouted about this tournament for some reason. And my knowledge isn't the best for German U21s xD
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On June 04 2013 21:34 Pandemona wrote:
Sorry ;_;
Germany haven't really been shouted about this tournament for some reason. And my knowledge isn't the best for German U21s xD
Actually hes 22 I dont even know why hes in this tournament.
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On June 04 2013 21:47 Yuljan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2013 21:34 Pandemona wrote:
Sorry ;_;
Germany haven't really been shouted about this tournament for some reason. And my knowledge isn't the best for German U21s xD Actually hes 22 I dont even know why hes in this tournament.
I believe the rule is you have to be under 21 at the time of the qualifications.
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On June 04 2013 21:56 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2013 21:47 Yuljan wrote:On June 04 2013 21:34 Pandemona wrote:
Sorry ;_;
Germany haven't really been shouted about this tournament for some reason. And my knowledge isn't the best for German U21s xD Actually hes 22 I dont even know why hes in this tournament. I believe the rule is you have to be under 21 at the time of the qualifications.
Probably explains why Strootman is there. The guy is 23 and already has 18 senior international caps, lmao.
I think he deserves a bold as well, but my player to watch is Adam Maher, even if it is only because of Football Manager : |
On June 03 2013 01:43 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2013 01:41 Ethi wrote:
I seriously don't understand why Draxler and Schürrle are with the german national team in the USA. For some friendly games. 100% agree, it's the same with England. Oxlade Chamberlin played like shite for the mens team, why not give him a pressured tournament atmosphere and let him play in that instead of being worthless in friendlies. Guess some national teams need to realize how much performance enhancing a tournament atmosphere actually is for players growing up!
I'm glad that Italy decided to call El Shaarawy for the Confederations Cup though. Bigger challenge for such a promising star.
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On May 29 2013 21:38 Pandemona wrote:The amount of awesome players on show is going be worth it imo. Not until i was putting the sqauds up did i realize how awesome it could be. Spain alone is worth watching! Ahh so Willems isn't even good enough to get into this squad! wow! Van Aanholt did though :3 woop Ahaha, yeah thanks for changing that too 
Willems is not even good enough to bench for PSV imo lol. Anyway I am looking forward to this especially because we're gonna kick some German ass.
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You need to Patrick Herrman too. He's the sucessor of Reus in Gladbach
This U21 team looks very weak compared to the ones a few years ago ... Özil, Khedira, Boateng, Götze. I hope Germany can keep on producing high quality players.
This current A-Team generation is really the Golden Generation of the DFB and we must capitalize that !
OFC: Spain has a really good squad --- at least by the names of them ... Alcantara, Carvajal, Tello, De Gea (lol still U21 ?? hes so young !)
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On June 04 2013 23:26 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:You need to Patrick Herrman too. He's the sucessor of Reus in Gladbach This U21 team looks very weak compared to the ones a few years ago ... Özil, Khedira, Boateng, Götze. I hope Germany can keep on producing high quality players. This current A-Team generation is really the Golden Generation of the DFB and we must capitalize that ! OFC: Spain has a really good squad --- at least by the names of them ... Alcantara, Carvajal, Tello, De Gea (lol still U21 ?? hes so young !)
yeah dont compare this team to the scary U21 of four years ago XD
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gonna follow some chelsea youngsters here
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Good game between Israel and Norway. 1-1 currently, but Norway are pushing hard to take the lead.
RED CARD for Hedenstad! Norway now playing with 10 men.
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On June 06 2013 01:35 NuclearJudas wrote:
Good game between Israel and Norway. 1-1 currently, but Norway are pushing hard to take the lead.
RED CARD for Hedenstad! Norway now playing with 10 men.
Ref is bent as hell, doing his very best to keep a far superior Norway out of this. Israel should have had two yellow cards for diving, but instead the ref gives them a peno and a red card to Norway, couldn't make this shit up.
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This is actually the most backwards reffing I've ever seen, this guy isn't even corrupt, just an idiot
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Damn game 1 >.< and Referee already cost a team ;_; god dammit
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On June 06 2013 01:56 Pandemona wrote:
Damn game 1 >.< and Referee already cost a team ;_; god dammit
Yeah stuff like this sucks. Norway should win this anyway though, our u-21 team is really good, and Israel is really looking average at best.
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Yeah, the penalty decision was pretty ridiculous. The sending off can go both ways. He's clearly looking for the FK, but Hedenstad gets himself in trouble when he starts yanking with his arms.
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Ginter played a hell of a year for Freiburg, Dortmund is one of the clubs that want him.
And Rode is also someone to watch out for. Armin Veh, his coach in Frankfurt, used to coach Khedira in Stuttgart at the same age and he believes Rode is stronger. It's an open secret that he will join Bayern after the next season.
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How on Earth does the Israeli striker miss that?
GOAL ISRAEL
2-1 by Turgeman, who's looked good since he came on.
Ouch. Nasty head wound for Berget.
Another great chance for Norway. Israeli keeper is playing a fantastic game.
NORWAY EQUALISES
Beautiful shot from Singh. 2-2 and Norway look like they've picked up a point. Well deserved.
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Well played by Norway, gotta love the team spirit after not getting many favors from the ref, hoping Singh and Nielsen starts next game over Konradsen and De Lanley
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Group A - Matchday 1 England vs ItalyKick Off 18:30 GMT (+00:00)Location: Bloomfield Stadium; Tel Aviv + Show Spoiler [Result!] + England TBA Italy
Subs: Steele, Smith, Wisdom, Lees, Chalobah, McEachran, Zaha, Lansbury, Delfouneso, Rudd.+ Show Spoiler [England Team News] +
• England arrived in Israel on Sunday having enjoyed a pre-tournament camp in Belek, Turkey.
• Midfielder Ince said those few days acted as good preparation for the conditions in Israel, adding that "we've as good a chance as anyone of winning".
• Manager Pearce has a fully fit squad to choose from with only Wilfried Zaha not taking part in full training on Monday morning at the squad's base in Caesarea.
• Having helped Crystal Palace FC into the Premier League via last week's play-off final, the winger – who is joining Manchester United FC this summer – completed his own training session but is not a major doubt for Wednesday's opener against Italy.
• The players watched the England senior team draw 2-2 against Brazil in their hotel on Sunday night, though goalkeeper Butland said a few of the team went to bed early and missed the late goals.
Bardi, Donati, Bianchetti, Caldirola, Biraghi, Florenzi, Marrone, Verratti, Insigne, Borini, Immobile.
Subs: Colombi, Capuano, Gabbiadini, Destro, Sansone, Bertolacci, Paloschi, Saponara, Regini, Rossi, Crimi, Leali.
+ Show Spoiler [Italy Team News] +
• Italy won 5-0 against AS Varese's youth side on Friday at Milanello. Alessandro Florenzi, Mattia Destro, Paloschi, Fausto Rossi and Lorenzo Insigne scored the goals and Devis Mangia's squad travelled to Tel Aviv the following day.
• On Sunday, midfielder Luca Marrone (thigh) started to train with the Azzurrini, and while attacking midfielder Insigne picked up a little knock to the knee, he said on Monday that "the problem is getting better, I will see today and tomorrow, then I will decide on my availability with the coach".
• Empoli FC duo Riccardo Saponara and Vasco Regini joined the squad on Monday, after their club's Serie B play-off defeat by AS Livorno Calcio.
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
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On June 04 2013 23:26 eaT_Mi_Lquid wrote:You need to Patrick Herrman too. He's the sucessor of Reus in Gladbach This U21 team looks very weak compared to the ones a few years ago ... Özil, Khedira, Boateng, Götze. I hope Germany can keep on producing high quality players. This current A-Team generation is really the Golden Generation of the DFB and we must capitalize that !
The German U-21 2009 was very impressive (you forgot Neuer, Hummels, Höwedes, and Schmelzer) but Götze wasn't in it
Götze, Draxler, ter Stegen, Gündogan and Schürrle could theoretically all play in this tournament, so it's a bit early to say the "Golden Generation" is at its peak.
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England saved by the ref there. Looked like a penalty to me.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Ahaha, wow England outplayed hard first half!
Hopefully better second half. Looks like our U21 already have the amazing feat of not performing xD
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England kinda lucky here, but they have players that can make stuff happen no oubt. Italy has a real knack of doing well in the u-21s though, looking sharper tonight.
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Why Zaha and Chalobah on the bench? I thought they were best young players in Championship this season...
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
GOOALLLLLL!!!!
:D 1-0 England!
Think they on bench cuz not been with squad much, they joined up monday as they played the play off final
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1-0 England! Happy for Dawson, he's a great talent.
Wait, what? Goal was disallowed. Dafuq.
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It's a conspiracy
Never mind we scored
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
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On June 06 2013 04:36 Pandemona wrote:
GOOALLLLLL!!!!
:D 1-0 England!
Think they on bench cuz not been with squad much, they joined up monday as they played the play off final
forgot about it, that definately may be the case
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
WOO Nathaniel <3 come on son
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1-0 Italy!
This Insigne kid is fucking sick. Beautiful free kick.
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Right decision by the ref to not award a penalty, but with a free-kick taker like that it was as good as a penalty from that spot. What a kick.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Aww good freekick, England playing like SHITTTT, rofl defense is worst than the first teams. So bad. Pearce no idea how to coach U21s. They can't attack any better, and defensively worst than previous generations XD
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Group A - Matchday 1 England vs ItalyKick Off 18:30 GMT (+00:00)Location: Bloomfield Stadium; Tel Aviv + Show Spoiler [Result!] + England 0-1 Italy
Butland, Clyne, Dawson, Caulker, Robinson, Henderson, Lowe, Redmond, Shelvey, Sordell, Wickham.
Subs: Steele, Smith, Wisdom, Lees, Chalobah, McEachran, Zaha, Lansbury, Delfouneso, Rudd.
• England arrived in Israel on Sunday having enjoyed a pre-tournament camp in Belek, Turkey.
• Midfielder Ince said those few days acted as good preparation for the conditions in Israel, adding that "we've as good a chance as anyone of winning".
• Manager Pearce has a fully fit squad to choose from with only Wilfried Zaha not taking part in full training on Monday morning at the squad's base in Caesarea.
• Having helped Crystal Palace FC into the Premier League via last week's play-off final, the winger – who is joining Manchester United FC this summer – completed his own training session but is not a major doubt for Wednesday's opener against Italy.
• The players watched the England senior team draw 2-2 against Brazil in their hotel on Sunday night, though goalkeeper Butland said a few of the team went to bed early and missed the late goals.
Bardi, Donati, Bianchetti, Caldirola, Biraghi, Florenzi, Marrone, Verratti, Insigne, Borini, Immobile.
Subs: Colombi, Capuano, Gabbiadini, Destro, Sansone, Bertolacci, Paloschi, Saponara, Regini, Rossi, Crimi, Leali.
• Italy won 5-0 against AS Varese's youth side on Friday at Milanello. Alessandro Florenzi, Mattia Destro, Paloschi, Fausto Rossi and Lorenzo Insigne scored the goals and Devis Mangia's squad travelled to Tel Aviv the following day.
• On Sunday, midfielder Luca Marrone (thigh) started to train with the Azzurrini, and while attacking midfielder Insigne picked up a little knock to the knee, he said on Monday that "the problem is getting better, I will see today and tomorrow, then I will decide on my availability with the coach".
• Empoli FC duo Riccardo Saponara and Vasco Regini joined the squad on Monday, after their club's Serie B play-off defeat by AS Livorno Calcio.
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
omg sick save last min by Italy
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Great save by Bardi to secure the win there.
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What was the reason for both disallowed?
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Wickham goal: Offside
Dawson goal: A push, from what I could hear.
Italy were robbed of a penalty in the first half as well.
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Winner of Norway and England will advance here. England is far more solid and have way more big names, but I can't shake the feeling that there is more talent and skill (who would have ever thought that about a Norwegian team) in Norway. Looking forward to saturday!
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Norway28672 Posts
yea this is norway's golden generation. when we enjoyed what norwegians would define as success during the 90s, our players were actually much worse, we were just ahead of the curve tactically and to some degree physically. but the youngsters in this team are legitimately good. sucks that we couldn't beat israel tho, now I guess we have to beat england. :'(
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Netherlands13554 Posts
No-one talking about Spain - Russia??
Spain looks good :o
Holland Germany soon!
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Omg the spanish team is sooooo fucking good De Gea, Carvajal, Thiago, Isco, Canales, Morata... ^^ gogo!
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Oh Shit my bad ;_:
Was busy in meeting all day justs got back!
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Pff it's only the group of death
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
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Niiice
2-0, Netherlands playing great!
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Holland? ZWEI!!
Deutschland...? NUUUUUUUULL!!
:D
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wijnaldum is such a beast!
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Ola John should be subbed tho :p
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Yeah, I don't like how Ola John is playing. Who will take his place tho?
fucking hell de Vrij, you should know better 
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What a gigantic mistake lol
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Oh wow, them unselfish Germans :D
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Wow what a shot.
Oh and Hoesen for de jong please...
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Zoet is a great goalkeeper and de Vrij needs to be replaced. Zero confidence.
edit: 2-2, Germany deserved it.
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Not sure how that went in, it seemed kinda slow shot
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How can you give a 2-0 lead away when you're dominating so hard in thr first half
edit: scrap that Fer scores lol
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you're kidding me, this stream has 3 minutes delay
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Sorry anomalopidae, I'll wait three minutes before typing
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God dammit, German team played so well 2nd half and turned the game around. That unxpected winning goal by the Dutch was like a punch in the guts.
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On June 07 2013 05:21 Ysellian wrote:Sorry anomalopidae, I'll wait three minutes before typing
Oh man, it was kinda funny, there I was thinking you were commenting on his previous header but it just didn't make sense cause he missed it, so I was waiting for him to score but Germans were in front of Dutch goal all the time... I was not sure what to think anymore :D
Gotta say this was interesting match, showed a lot of good stuff
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Terrible second half by Netherlands. Given the experience they should've built on that 2-0 score and actually gotten an even bigger lead instead of being nervous twits.
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On June 07 2013 05:26 anomalopidae wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 05:21 Ysellian wrote:Sorry anomalopidae, I'll wait three minutes before typing Oh man, it was kinda funny, there I was thinking you were commenting on his previous header but it just didn't make sense cause he missed it, so I was waiting for him to score but Germans were in front of Dutch goal all the time... I was not sure what to think anymore :D Gotta say this was interesting match, showed a lot of good stuff
Haha yeah it certainly looked very unlikely. Great match, the Germans showed great fighting spirit I have to give them that, but it shouldn't have been this close IMO
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Does anyone know why the Germans didn't bring players like Gotze, Draxler, etc? Ya know, the best players on the team? It seems really bizarre. Do they just not regard the competition highly enough? I hadn't heard about this competition at all until like two days ago, and I was looking for them the whole game, wondering "where the fuck are the big guns?".
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On June 07 2013 06:18 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Does anyone know why the Germans didn't bring players like Gotze, Draxler, etc? Ya know, the best players on the team? It seems really bizarre. Do they just not regard the competition highly enough? I hadn't heard about this competition at all until like two days ago, and I was looking for them the whole game, wondering "where the fuck are the big guns?".
Well its quite common not to bring the big, allready established stars. Its first and foremost a talent tournament and winning is not all that matters.
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On June 07 2013 06:40 DaCruise wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 06:18 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Does anyone know why the Germans didn't bring players like Gotze, Draxler, etc? Ya know, the best players on the team? It seems really bizarre. Do they just not regard the competition highly enough? I hadn't heard about this competition at all until like two days ago, and I was looking for them the whole game, wondering "where the fuck are the big guns?". Well its quite common not to bring the big, allready established stars. Its first and foremost a talent tournament and winning is not all that matters.
Yeah, I also wondered at first, but that's pretty much it. Quite opposite to countries like Spain the DFB coaches Löw and Adrion see the U-21 as opportunity to bring second line talents into the spotlight. Thus they didn't want to bring in players which are already established in the A-Team.
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Yeah, Spain really brought the big guns out for this tournament and the Netherlands as well. I think the difference is club pressure perhaps.
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LOL
Fkn lol
England, playing ok passing nicely. Then they all stop in the box from a Norway corner, and scream handball ALL stop and guy taps it into corner rofl
1-0 Norway!
Lol some Norwegian fan in crowd doing some knitting xD
LOL
Norway 2-0 England
England fucked awful defending.
Great finish by the Norwegian player, but wtf. Its like 60% possession for England yet we had 0 shots on target.
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as we know from barcelona, ball posession is nothing :D
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On June 06 2013 06:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yea this is norway's golden generation. when we enjoyed what norwegians would define as success during the 90s, our players were actually much worse, we were just ahead of the curve tactically and to some degree physically. but the youngsters in this team are legitimately good. sucks that we couldn't beat israel tho, now I guess we have to beat england. :'(
Lol sounds like you were right :D.
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Norway28672 Posts
hooray :D
the combination of good defending and finishing made that look fairly easy.. I also didn't understand what the penalty was for (again.) like not saying it wasn't a penalty but I was watching without commentary at that point and couldn't see it myself;p
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Best team taking a comfortable win. A solid performance by a skilled and organized team, especially marcus Pedersen was great.
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Italy is pretty good.
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That was a fantastic performance, showing that having the ball doesn't really mean much. Stefan Johansen set for bigger and better things I hope ;D
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pretty impressive by Norway!
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On June 09 2013 03:48 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
That was a fantastic performance, showing that having the ball doesn't really mean much. Stefan Johansen set for bigger and better things I hope ;D
He wasn't at his best today, too much effort too little class, but he is such a great player. Stefan Johansen would have been a star on any team in this cup!
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HOLY CRAP DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT GOAL BY WIJNALDUM?
From like 25+ yards out!
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Not so great after u see the defelection >.<
I did too think that it was an awesome effort, but deflection takes it away from the keeper.
But as Martin Tyler 9 Alan smith was saying at the time, it needed someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck for Netherlands. They were bossing possession but did not have anything in terms of major goal mouth action. Until that beautiful strike!
Looking an exceptional passing side though Netherlands, will be a great game vs Spain
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On June 10 2013 01:48 Pandemona wrote:
Not so great after u see the defelection >.<
I did too think that it was an awesome effort, but deflection takes it away from the keeper.
But as Martin Tyler 9 Alan smith was saying at the time, it needed someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck for Netherlands. They were bossing possession but did not have anything in terms of major goal mouth action. Until that beautiful strike!
Looking an exceptional passing side though Netherlands, will be a great game vs Spain
Yeah according to ESPN they had 69% possession. Both sides seemed to have some heavy touches and some moments where they showed poor vision, but I guess the players are still young and learning.
Looks like Netherlands might have just gotten away with a handball there.
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It took a deflection? That's a shame But yeah heavy touches, weird choice of passes and lots of miss communication
edit: I'm guessing refs are more strict because this is a youth tournament? Wouldn't give that a red card usually.
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Wow, straight red card for Russia!
That was a poor challenge but that probably should have only been a yellow...
Damn that would have been a great goal by Maher.
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hm, i highly doubt that was a red card tbh.
:$
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yea netherlands lucky with the referee now. the handball looked like a penalty to me and the direct red was really really harsh.
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wow, that volley, pity it wasnt a goal.
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That should be the match. Can't say I'm too happy given the performance and the luck accompanied with this lead.
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Bad red card but I wouldn't say Netherlands doesn't deserve the win.
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On June 10 2013 02:18 Ysellian wrote:
That should be the match. Can't say I'm too happy given the performance and the luck accompanied with this lead.
Agreed, it looks a bit shaky during both offence and defence.
Lol, right when i say taht ><
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i guess there's some degree of game again now. entering the period where 10 man teams tend to get dominated tho. ;p
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On June 10 2013 02:20 Yorbon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 02:18 Ysellian wrote:
That should be the match. Can't say I'm too happy given the performance and the luck accompanied with this lead. Agreed, it looks a bit shaky during both offence and defence. Lol, right when i say taht ><
Indeed, what joke defending again. >_<
edit: 3 - 1.
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and that should be it. really composed finishing there.
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On June 10 2013 02:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:and that should be it. really composed finishing there. Now watch as difference reduces to 1 again..
okok, i was wrong: 4-1
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lol 4 minutes of added time, this game is already over.
On June 10 2013 02:50 Pandemona wrote:Well this was rape gg none the less
Yeah, Against 10 men Russia just couldn't keep up with the constant passing. With the penalty for Russia and a yellow card instead of a red, this game could have been very different.
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Germany vs Spain any good?
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spain deserved winning in a not terribly entertaining match. funny to see how the spanish youngsters they adopted messi-style lobs tho. (seen in the two disallowed goals for spain.)
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Shameful play from the Germans, losing in a pretty boring match against Spain 0-1. Then again, when you don't bring any of your good players, you probably aren't going to deserve to expect anything better. None of the players have been even remotely convincing, either, with terrible passes, poor touches, and skeptical decision-making throughout the entire team. I doubt one game against Russia is going to show us much potential, either.
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Spain was much better and won well deserved. They actually should have won higher.
Still I am not upset. Its U21 after all, and Germany has rarely done good there and it has also never been a high priority. The important thing is that 3 or 4 good players come out of every generation.
Spain is looking really good though. Seems like we can expect them to dominate in the future as well with the same playing style.
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On June 10 2013 05:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Shameful play from the Germans, losing in a pretty boring match against Spain 0-1. Then again, when you don't bring any of your good players, you probably aren't going to deserve to expect anything better. None of the players have been even remotely convincing, either, with terrible passes, poor touches, and skeptical decision-making throughout the entire team. I doubt one game against Russia is going to show us much potential, either.
After this U21 Euros I just hope were going to win a title with our current generation because as you could see the next generation is going to suck hard :D Germany is going to be behind for decades.
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To be fair, this germany side could field some amazing players, gotze for instance
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On June 10 2013 06:51 TerransHill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 05:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Shameful play from the Germans, losing in a pretty boring match against Spain 0-1. Then again, when you don't bring any of your good players, you probably aren't going to deserve to expect anything better. None of the players have been even remotely convincing, either, with terrible passes, poor touches, and skeptical decision-making throughout the entire team. I doubt one game against Russia is going to show us much potential, either. After this U21 Euros I just hope were going to win a title with our current generation because as you could see the next generation is going to suck hard :D Germany is going to be behind for decades.
For decades? You are quite the doomsayer ^^
4 years ago Germany won the U-17 Euro Cup with Götze among others, it was the very same "generation" we have seen in this tournament.
The importance of youth tournaments is wildly overstated, Argentina won the U-20 world cup 5 out of 7 times between 1995 and 2007! It had not much of a positive effect on the performances of the national team.
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Norway28672 Posts
germany has an amazing talent pool. best in the world alongside brazil and spain.
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dang
almost won the group! :D
not that it matters as netherlands and spain are pretty evenly matched. I guess we'd have a slightly better chance vs holland but I think we're slightly more likely to face them in semi after losing than after winning.
would've been sweet if norway did win though, spain vs netherlands would be hilarious then, with both teams prolly wanting #2 in their group.
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FUCK
I made a booboo, was 5pm bst kick off not 7pm ;_;
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Jeez, if Pearce isn't sacked as manager, I'd be really surprised.
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Yeah i believe his contract has run out now (finished after the tournament) i highly doubt it will be renewed. What we need as U21 manager is a youth team/reserve coach from Arsenal/Chelsea or one that has been around for a while. Is used to working with kids and likes to teach them how to play football. That is the only way it will work with what the stupid FA want us to play like.
Oh well, another batch of wasters inc for the National team xD
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On June 12 2013 16:40 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i believe his contract has run out now (finished after the tournament) i highly doubt it will be renewed. What we need as U21 manager is a youth team/reserve coach from Arsenal/Chelsea or one that has been around for a while. Is used to working with kids and likes to teach them how to play football. That is the only way it will work with what the stupid FA want us to play like.
Oh well, another batch of wasters inc for the National team xD
When you have a team full of benched players and players playing in second leagues etc., you obviously won't win youth tournaments. The British leagues are stocked with foreigners, talents from different countries, you name it. Pretty obvious why England sucks at youth tournaments/eurocups/world cups.
A coach can't change anything when his material is bad. Pearce likely did a fine job anyway. Not his fault his players suck.
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But look at the team that played most of the games.
In goal Butland, rated as the best keeper to come out of the ranks in a long time. Played in the Olympics team where they lost on penalties, got a big move to Stoke from Birmingham after rejecting Chelsea. He played like shit.
Defensively the team was the worst i have seen in ages. Stephen Caulker plays CB for spurs, played against Inter Milan etc in the Europa League has vast of experience and played in the Olympics too. Danny Rose LB, played for Sunderland the whole season in the premier league and is on loan from Spurs. Dawson plays for West Brom and played a few times this season as well so he has premier leaegue experience. The only issue i had is a guy called Smith played across the back 4 which he shouldn't have. Andre Wisdom should of played there as he has experience playing in the Europa with Liverpool (and did well) and the premiership with Liverpool. That is the first mistake of Pearce so far
Midfield. Henderson, plays for Liverpool every game, is vastly experienced and young. Should of dominated the midfield, he didn't. Chalobah, an excellent young prospect who is slightly cocky so he is never affraid, good feat to have i guess for a playmaker midfielder and didn't do much wrong. Jason Lowe is the only issue i have that played in midfield again, it should of been someone else with more experience playing alongside Chalobah and Henderson. Shelvy/Mchearan are clearly better candidates than he is. 2nd mistake made from Pearce as manager.
Then attacking wise we probably have 3 great attackers. I mean they have everything, pace - vision - finishing - ability to take people on - skill, you name it whatever you want from a striker in terms of young and raw talent the 3 England played with had that, they just didn't get the ball as the rest of the team were making mistakes. Nor when they had the ball did their defense help out and not concede sloppy goals.
Zaha - Plays for Man Utd now and came off the back of getting Crystal Palace promoted on his own basically
Ince - One of the most sort after players since he left Liverpool. Scoring great goals for Blackpool every week
Redmond - Very raw but but extremely quick and he relished his chance of being at this tournament. Played as if he wanted to impress
So imo 2 reasons England were shit this tournament. Game 1 - Manager and shit defense, the team he picked was silly, and the tactics he told them to play were shocking. From a guy who is a defender from his time as a player can't set a team out to defend properly and go long ball, and still get WTF owned is just stupid.
Game 2 - England play great passing, actually look nice on the ball, and get WTF owned on the counter attack due to again their defense and keeper being woeful. It was stupidly easy for Norway to get in behind them and yes they showed a touch of class in the finishing department but still was so easy for them. Other than that, going forward in that game we looked alot better and probably kept the ball 100x better than the first team do.
So imo, the main blame is down to Pearce being a shocking coach and 2 some of the players not turning up/being coached properly.
Still i agree we would never of won, but was no question we could not of got out of this group with what we had and then to take on Spain/Netherlands in the semi final.
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Semi Final Spain vs NorwayKick Off 15th June 15:30 GMT (+00:00)Team News+ Show Spoiler [Spain] +
Lopetegui said he is hopeful midfielder Ignacio Camacho will recover from the ankle injury he suffered against the Netherlands. "He's got a chance of being fit and that's what we're working towards," said the coach, who otherwise has no injury doubts.
Fredrik Semb Berge came through his first full training session on Thursday since the England game and Skullerud confirmed in his press conference he has a full squad to choose from. "We go into tomorrow with all 23 players ready to play," he said.
Spain 3-0 Norway vs NetherlandsKick Off 15th June 18:30 GMT (+00:00)Team News+ Show Spoiler [Italy] +
Mangia said Insigne's availability would be considered only after Friday evening's training session. The SSC Napoli midfielder sustained an ankle injury against Israel and has not played since. Mattia Destro and Bertolacci started training alongside Insigne, away from the rest of the squad, but are expected to be available. When questioned how he would choose which attacking players he would pick, the coach quipped: "I throw the shirts in the air and the first two that get them will play."
Bram Nuytinck is out of the tournament because of a knee injury sustained in the 3-0 loss to Spain. Pot, who otherwise has a fully-fit squad, says he will pick "more or less" the same team that started against Germany and Russia.
Italy 1-0 Netherlands
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Are you wary of Norway, Pandemona?
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
What do you mean ? xD Oh i see rofl ;_;
Good spot
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Did anyone just see that strike from Montoya. Holy shit. Corner comes in cleared in the air to about 30/35yards out and Montoya smacks it on the volley and it goes at like 100mph towards the keeper who did well to save it. Then rodrigo gets the follow up but hits the post then a Spanish guy dived and got booked.
Was still an asbolute sweet strike. Would of been some goal if went in
GOOOALLLLLLLL SPAINNNNNNNN
1-0. Looked like Norway fell asleep defending the second ball from the corner and FINALLY Rodrigo pops up with a goal in the tournament! 1-0 Spain, throughly deserved though
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Isco is scary good... Spain is just too good for this championship Too bad we don't see every country put their best players in this tournament (Germany being the best example)...
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Go NL ^^ and gz to Spain for reaching the finals.
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Too bad about norway, had my hopes kind of high (us getting a goal) but well won by spain, Nyland in the premier league next season, calling it now ^_^
go holland though;D
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Bad luck de Vrij out injured and his replacement at fault with the goal. But I don't think the Netherlands deserved much in this game, the Italian game plan was just better.
edit: What really bothers me most is that we never got to see the A team in action against Spain :/
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On June 16 2013 05:27 Ysellian wrote:
Bad luck de Vrij out injured and his replacement at fault with the goal. But I don't think the Netherlands deserved much in this game, the Italian game plan was just better.
edit: What really bothers me most is that we never got to see the A team in action against Spain :/
I never saw much sense in putting players to rest in meaningless matches, they lose their rhythm together. I dont think it has done any good to a team ever or am I wrong?
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Apparently there were quite a few players close to injury so I hink it was unavoidable to give them rest.
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Agree, some players needed rest but switching the whole team out couldn't have been good as sharkie said. I think the coach valued the learning experience more than the tournament and I can't say our team did poorly overall.
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Kinda feel like Norway would've beaten that Italy team
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