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Hi guys! I was going to post this in the success thread but it seemed pretty dead, but I guess this sub-forum is. If you want me to move it I will. I don't usually post much, I go through stages but I thought I'd post this and answer questions if people needed help or whatever since I'm no good at Starcraft haha.
Basically my story starts here
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I was 95.7kg which Google tells me is 214.95 pounds. I posted a bit about my relationship before but I was pretty unhappy and ate lots of garbage etc. Always struggled with my weight and was always insecure.
A year later this is me 76kg. I still want to lose 3-5 more kg but this my progress so far 
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I didnt wanna write heaps but I mean if you guys have questions (you probably dont) feel free to ask. But looking at this forum so many super fit dudes out there haha.
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well done indeed.
I don't know how tall you are, so it's hard to say much about the weight etc, but there is a huge difference. I've always been lean my whole life so I don't know anything about being overweight, or why it's hard to slap yourself in the face and start eating right.
I'm honestly just curious about a few things:
-When did you notice that you are overweight enough that it is starting to bother you, and at what point exactly did you decide 'ok thats enough, I want to change'
-Was there any set backs that nearly made you quit?
-Did you have really uncomfortable food cravings?
-Where did you find the willpower within you to make a change?
-What were the key steps for you that really helped you in your weight loss? Pure willpower, or what? This obviously is different from person to person
I just know so many examples of people who would like to be really lean, or at least being slightly overweight is an uncomfortable thing for them, yet they eat sweets very often. Or people who are actually attracted to fitness magazine tips 'lose 10 pounds for summer with this simple method', rather than finding a solution for a lifetime, or other reasons than just being fit for summer.
Meh, I understand that much of it is based on genetics and habits you develop over your lifetime, and some habits are hard to discard. I want to gain a deeper understanding of it though, because I will be educating young minds in the future, and I personally believe that a healthy body means almost without exception a happier life
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On April 12 2013 17:35 Ahzz wrote:
Meh, I understand that much of it is based on genetics and habits you develop over your lifetime, and some habits are hard to discard. I want to gain a deeper understanding of it though, because I will be educating young minds in the future, and I personally believe that a healthy body means almost without exception a happier life
Genetics is just an excuse for overweight people to fall back on.
If you're overweight, that just means you have been eating a surplus of kilocalories for a very long sustained amount of time.
An ectomorph can get overweight, just like an endomorph can. It has nothing to do with genetics, anyone anytime can and will get overweight if you exceed your daily required kcal for longer periods.
If you're overweight it means your body was storing fat, which does not occur if you don't exceed your daily required kcal.
Of course there are those with thyroid problems, no harm done to those, but I didn't mean them.
No harm done to the OP either.
Very nice results you put down there! and by the looks of it, you lost all of your gyno as well, which is quite rare - véry lucky for you ! Now go get those abs and put on lean muscle mass and dominate the beach  ! Proper dieting and strength training is addictive, so lets see how far you can get. Great results bro!
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Genetics is just an excuse for overweight people to fall back on.
Yes it can be harder, much much harder for some ppl to loose weight and that can be genetic, my mother for example, always in motion every day and shes not eating more than normal, maybe even less. But still she's fat, not super overweight but, so yes can be genetic, but ppl dont wanna believe a fat ugly donkey thats the problem.
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On April 12 2013 21:23 MidnightZL wrote:Yes it can be harder, much much harder for some ppl to loose weight and that can be genetic, my mother for example, always in motion every day and shes not eating more than normal, maybe even less. But still she's fat, not super overweight but, so yes can be genetic, but ppl dont wanna believe a fat ugly donkey thats the problem.
I never said that genetics don't determine fat loss speed, I said that genetics don't determine whether or not you can become overweight because of a kcal surplus.
If your mother is chubby, that means she's either eating way too little, too infrequent, too imbalanced or just plainly too much for her BMR. It can have many causes. If your mother would set up a proper nutrition cutting plan, I am 100% sure she would be able to lose fat, as long as she doesn't have a thyroid problem. WIthout any sort of cardio or other exercise at all.
You would be surprised how low a person's BMR can be if he/she if idle most of the day.
I have done tons and tons of research(as in, studying) on nutrition, hormones, genetics, ins and outs and all university grade. If you can provide me with proper backing that non-thyroid-problem people can get overweight without eating a kcal surplus, and can't lose fat with a proper nutritional plan - show me !
I agree that some people gain fat quicker than others, but it's all related to the diet, kcal surplusses.
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On April 12 2013 17:35 Ahzz wrote:
well done indeed.
I don't know how tall you are, so it's hard to say much about the weight etc, but there is a huge difference. I've always been lean my whole life so I don't know anything about being overweight, or why it's hard to slap yourself in the face and start eating right.
I'm 180cm. Well I was raised into obesity I was 90kg at 11 and lost 35kg only to put it back on (I can dig up a photo if youre really interested). I dont know why its hard but it can really be if that's all you've known, its easy to stop after being on a diet so long.
I'm honestly just curious about a few things:
-When did you notice that you are overweight enough that it is starting to bother you, and at what point exactly did you decide 'ok thats enough, I want to change'
I was always trying and failing and one day a friend I use to train with who is really serious with it all asked me to train and we trained for about 8 months, so he helped give me the starting motivation I needed and then slowly as my whole lifestyle changed I just attracted people with the same interests. I don't go to gym with him anymore but another guy and I do cardio sessions with another one of my mates who wants to lose weight.
-Was there any set backs that nearly made you quit?
First year I barely EVER ate crap. I mean there was times when I did but it was never really a big deal because I was always going to gym. There were times when I'd look at myself and be depressed about my progress because I was still fat or I'd see people that were skinny come to gym and look great in 6 months and it seemed so easy for them whilst I was still training 5 times a day 30 minutes weights 30 minutes cardio. But besides all them feelings I never intended to quit, I loved the quote "You're already in pain, why not get a reward from it".
-Did you have really uncomfortable food cravings?
Honestly not that I remember. Crave sweets every now and then?
-Where did you find the willpower within you to make a change?
When I first started I was into gym and ready to lose weight but I didn't have that real drive because I had no faith in myself. It was a gradual build up from watching many inspirational videos and just shit that basically told me I have one life and I'm wasting it. That actually changed a lot of aspects in my life.
-What were the key steps for you that really helped you in your weight loss? Pure willpower, or what? This obviously is different from person to person
I guess you could say pure willpower? I think what drove me at first was I had left my girlfriend and realized I was disgusting and at first it was just purely "I want to be hot for girls" now its become a lot about me and how happy it makes me and its actually fun for me now. It's really weird to say but just the whole fact I really want to make something with my life, not even career wise but in my life. I want to do things and I can't if I'm the person I was before me that didn't even respect myself.
I just know so many examples of people who would like to be really lean, or at least being slightly overweight is an uncomfortable thing for them, yet they eat sweets very often. Or people who are actually attracted to fitness magazine tips 'lose 10 pounds for summer with this simple method', rather than finding a solution for a lifetime, or other reasons than just being fit for summer.
Meh, I understand that much of it is based on genetics and habits you develop over your lifetime, and some habits are hard to discard. I want to gain a deeper understanding of it though, because I will be educating young minds in the future, and I personally believe that a healthy body means almost without exception a happier life
I answered your questions I don't like my genetics, I have a skinny frame and am shaped like a pear meaning all my fat really goes to my hips and makes like a spare tire around my waist. But what can you ^_^.
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I answered your questions I don't like my genetics, I have a skinny frame and am shaped like a pear meaning all my fat really goes to my hips and makes like a spare tire around my waist. But what can you ^_^.
I have the same problem. Even with really defined abs, my hips are too wide. Therefore, I focus the most on shoulders and back to make it less noticeable.
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whilst I was still training 5 times a day 30 minutes weights 30 minutes cardio.
You were really spending 5 hours in the gym everyday?
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On April 15 2013 00:57 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +whilst I was still training 5 times a day 30 minutes weights 30 minutes cardio. You were really spending 5 hours in the gym everyday?
Sorry man I meant 1 hour 5 x a week >.>
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On April 17 2013 20:32 ScruffyJanitor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 00:57 L_Master wrote:whilst I was still training 5 times a day 30 minutes weights 30 minutes cardio. You were really spending 5 hours in the gym everyday? Sorry man I meant 1 hour 5 x a week >.>
Ah okay, I was gonna say 5 hours a day would be like ultra super hardcore mega training. Nice job on the weightloss, doing it from 40 pounds overweight was hard enough, can't imagine what its like and the dedication it takes when you start from where you were or worse!
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So you lost around 20 kilos in 1 year? It's great, but it feels slow. I'm 89kilos and 1.87, and I was hoping to drop at least 6-7 kilos in the next 2 and a half months (summer is coming...). In your opinion, do I have enough time? I lost 8 kilos this winter (in about 3 months), and now I'm doing push ups, abs and squats 3 days a week, with jogging the other 4 days. Thank you in advance.
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Of course you can lose 6-7 kilos in 2 1/2 months, no problem if your eating discipline is right. It is much easier to do if you're really overweight, and at 1,87 /89kg you are at a reasonable weight already. You need to cut out like 700-800kcal every day to achieve your goal in time. Obviously that's possible and a reasonable goal, but not that easy. At your weight and height I'd personally shoot for 2kg a month.
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What do you mean by eating discipline? Not eating after 7pm? Also, if I'm doing daily workout and I gradually cut down on food intake, is it going to affect my performance?
Thanks again for the fast reply.
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Eating discipline is all about caloric intake. If you don't count calories you just need another way of monitoring how much you're really eating. But for nomal people that comes pretty intuitive.
There is no magic to not eating late (it doesn't matter at all when you eat actually), it just translates into eating less in general. So first of all it is a strategy.
And yes, cutting down on food will affect your performance. Though if you're doing crunches, push ups and running, it'll probably just help you get better. For lifting weights, caloric deficits are a nightmare. For me, it takes my body a couple of weeks to realize that he doesn't get enough food anymore, but then performance drops. So you can get away with it for some time, but not in the long run.
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On April 22 2013 04:59 Malinor wrote:
Eating discipline is all about caloric intake. If you don't count calories you just need another way of monitoring how much you're really eating. But for nomal people that comes pretty intuitive.
There is no magic to not eating late (it doesn't matter at all when you eat actually), it just translates into eating less in general. So first of all it is a strategy.
And yes, cutting down on food will affect your performance. Though if you're doing crunches, push ups and running, it'll probably just help you get better. For lifting weights, caloric deficits are a nightmare. For me, it takes my body a couple of weeks to realize that he doesn't get enough food anymore, but then performance drops. So you can get away with it for some time, but not in the long run.
Yea, if you're doing serious training you definitely notice the effects of a solid, consistent, caloric deficit. If I'm just jogging like 30-40 miles per week its not a huge deal, but if I'm training seriously with workouts and doing 60+ miles per week you REALLY notice the caloric deficit, especially when it comes to energy for harder workouts and how well you recover. I wouldn't recommend heavy weight loss if your in the midst of some competitive season.
Otherwise, 2-4kg a month is reasonable. I've done a few months at 3-4 kg per month and it's not easy, even eating nice I get a little lethargic and am hungry a decent portion of the time. 1-2kg per month isn't bad at all for me in my experience.
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I forgot to mention I'm playing tennis once or twice a week, (3 hours per session). Is it better than my regular abs, squats and push-ups?
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On April 22 2013 18:22 Kinon wrote:
I forgot to mention I'm playing tennis once or twice a week, (3 hours per session). Is it better than my regular abs, squats and push-ups?
What are your goals?
If your goals are just to lose 5kg by summer or something, then you shouldnt be worried because losing weight is 80% diet anyway.
And either way, if you enjoy playing tennis a lot, then by all means keep doing it. Of course, if your goal is to build muscle then squats are better than tennis. Nothing says you can't do both, but then eating enough, enough rest etc may become a concern
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On April 22 2013 03:47 Kinon wrote:
So you lost around 20 kilos in 1 year? It's great, but it feels slow. I'm 89kilos and 1.87, and I was hoping to drop at least 6-7 kilos in the next 2 and a half months (summer is coming...). In your opinion, do I have enough time? I lost 8 kilos this winter (in about 3 months), and now I'm doing push ups, abs and squats 3 days a week, with jogging the other 4 days. Thank you in advance.
The thing to keep in mind is I was lifting as well and was to lazy to track my body fat so I was losing weight some weeks and gaining it others but still looking good. I think I gained a alright amount of muscle as well because even though I was big I literally had no muscle on me at all. I started benching the bar and now bench 60kg. I think in all honestly anyone can do anything they set their mind to. If you're doing all youre are saying then I'd just have 5-6 small meals a day. I don't specifically follow any certain nutrition I just always try to have vegetables and meat as main meals and plain greek yoghurt, boiled egg or a protein shake with a piece of fruit for my other meals.
I lost a heap of weight quickly by just having 6 small meals of low carb high protein meals and doing high interval training and lifting. I did and have gotten a bit more slack now that I am at the weight I guess I've been comfortable with and don't do a lot of cardio and just go to the gym and lift 3-5 days a week. With the switch of jobs its been hard to keep my meals good and get in a proper routine because I have no set days I work, its always different.
The only thing I'd be careful of is losing weight to quickly isn't always a good thing if it isn't done through proper nutrition. I take on the approach that this is my lifestyle and I try at gym but I don't make it my life and become a gym freak because I usually tend to burn out and get frustrated with lack of results or just lose motivation in general.
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