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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
If it was the first race of the season then obviously He should have been let through to maximise points for the team. But the way this season has turned out I just don’t think anyone could reasonably expect Hamilton to let his only Championship rival passed him without a fight. I wasn’t impressed with SKY making up excuses and saying things like ‘Rosbergs not fast enough’ or ‘Hamilton would lose to much time’. Just say the truth he’s not going to let him through because Rosberg is his main championship rival. Anyway again great racing, fights everywhere and great for Ricardo to win again. He seems like such a nice guy. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13386 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
From Hamilton's perspective, of course not. Finishing ahead of his WDC rival is necessarily better than behind. However, since Hamilton drives for the team, I think he should have obeyed the team orders and let Nico through. Let's not forget the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix, in which Hamilton used too much fuel and Nico, despite having ample pace and fuel to pass Hamilton, maintained his position behind Hamilton. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On July 27 2014 23:04 Release wrote: Considering the fact that Rosberg, Bottas, Vettel, and Alonso were screwed by the safety car, Alonso probably had the best drive of the afternoon. Redbull/Ricciardo chose the best strategy in response to the safety cars so a well-deserved victory for them. Another weak drive from Kimi although several others drove worse. Redbull chose the only strategy, which was to pit. They just happened to be in the right place with Ricciardo. The top 4 couldn't pit, and Mclaren did what McLaren do and messed up completely and cost Button probably quite a lot of points. If McLaren try and get rid of Button at the end of the year, he should probably take whatever offer they give him to leave. Unless between now and next season they hire a strategist. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On July 27 2014 23:35 Release wrote: I disagree. From a team perspective, forcing Hamilton to let Nico past would have resulted in an easy 1/2-4 for Mercedes instead of the 3-4 that they ultimately attained. I'd lean on the side of 1-4 since Nico exited the pits and lost over 5 seconds in traffic and you have to add that to the amount of time that he lost in the dirty air of Hamilton, whom he was catching at ~0.5 seconds per lap before the dirty air (and being in the dirty air increases tyre wear so the next stint must be longer and therefore on average slower); Ricciardo only won by 5 seconds and Nico showed that, despite his suboptimal strategy albeit with newer tyres, he was easily the quickest car/driver on the circuit. From Hamilton's perspective, of course not. Finishing ahead of his WDC rival is necessarily better than behind. However, since Hamilton drives for the team, I think he should have obeyed the team orders and let Nico through. Let's not forget the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix, in which Hamilton used too much fuel and Nico, despite having ample pace and fuel to pass Hamilton, maintained his position behind Hamilton. I think you have missed the point entirely. I don’t dispute at all and in fact agree with you that it would have been better for the team mathematically if Rosberg had been let passed. That’s not the point. The point is that the Constructors Championship is over and the Drivers championship is not. The difference with the Malaysian Grand Prix is that the Malaysian Grand Prix is the second Grand prix of the year. So it’s unclear how the championships are going to unfold and of course you should do what’s best for the team that early on in the season. However now that the constructor’s championship is all but mathematically decided it makes no sense for either driver to give away anything to their only Driver’s Championship rival. | ||
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Firestorm
Canada341 Posts
On July 27 2014 23:53 Greg_J wrote: I think you have missed the point entirely. I don’t dispute at all and in fact agree with you that it would have been better for the team mathematically if Rosberg had been let passed. That’s not the point. The point is that the Constructors Championship is over and the Drivers championship is not. The difference with the Malaysian Grand Prix is that the Malaysian Grand Prix is the second Grand prix of the year. So it’s unclear how the championships are going to unfold and of course you should do what’s best for the team that early on in the season. However now that the constructor’s championship is all but mathematically decided it makes no sense for either driver to give away anything to their only Driver’s Championship rival. So since they are so far ahead as a team, they should stop trying to win a race? | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On July 28 2014 04:29 Firestorm wrote: So since they are so far ahead as a team, they should stop trying to win a race? That’s an unnecessarily provocative response and a very weird way of interpreting what I said and the situation. I'm pretty sure Hamilton and Rosberg where both doing everything they could to win the race today as they will at every race. But of course when the World Championship will be won by Rosberg or Hamilton and the Constructors Championship is already decided they aren’t going to be gifting each other points. They will be fighting for every single point they can get. edit:grammar | ||
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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
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Noam
Israel2209 Posts
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On August 23 2014 08:53 Noam wrote: so.,.. race weekend! woohoo. | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
wth? | ||
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
the tyre piece that blew off hamiltons car ended up on rosbergs lol | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
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shiroiusagi
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Mercedes about to implode. | ||
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