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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 07:18:00
February 14 2013 07:17 GMT
#381
I'm down 1% bf and my 585 DL is intact.
Still, cutting sucks.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
February 14 2013 08:09 GMT
#382
tell me about it

impressive DL btw!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
February 14 2013 13:48 GMT
#383
On February 14 2013 11:14 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 01:55 Liquid`Meat wrote:
Ye just some dumbbells and a pull up bar does the trick. A yoga mat is also recommended. Resistance bands are only necessary when you don't have dumbbells or a pull up bar. It might be a good alternative when you are traveling, but in general those bands suck since the resistance is basically only at the end of your range of motion. When I was replicating pullups by putting 1 end of the band behind the top of the door I was worried I was pulling the door out as the wooden door came in about 5cm...
If you have some money to invest I would recommend picking up the bowflex dumbbells (no first hand experience though) or something similar, cause in some workouts you need to change the weights a lot. I got some very basic changeable weight dumbbells and changing the weights adds about half an hour to 1 or 2 workouts a week. After I completed these 90 days I'm going back to the normal gym so I'm sticking with them.
Make sure to have a decent yoga mat that doesn't stretch out and isn't moving all over the floor.

I've done about 4 weeks p90x, I doubt it's optimal to gain muscle but for cutting or improving cardio it seems pretty good.


From what I've heard, the bowflex DB's are terrible quality and you should stay away - they'll break fast enough that they aren't worth your money, plus you need to buy the first add on kit to get a respectable weight on them. If you want adjustable DBs, I guess the leading suggestions are Ironmaster and powerblocks - the powerblocks look to be easier to change, but they're a WEIRD shape. The ironmasters look more like traditional DBs, but they're a little slower. You're right that p90x isn't optimal for gaining muscle, wrong about cutting. The efficient way to cut is diet, diet, diet which is independant of the workout you do. It's definitely a solid way to increase your cardio/work capacity though, and the number one seller is that it gets people to commit to a routine which will (hopefully) turn into good habits once they graduate from the routine.

Hit the gym pretty well tonight. Bench went terribly - forearms and lats are still tired from monday when I last hit them, so I had to drop 20 lbs but incline actually went really well, and i usually hate incline. Used a 32mm bar, which I also usually hate - maybe in this case, two wrongs make a right? Played a game of basketball which is the first significant running I've done in.... ~6 months. Need to get back to work on that.

Most importantly, rehab exercises are going great. Hell of a lot of foam rolling (glute medius, piriformis, low back, hamstrings, IT bands, calves) some massage (especially psoas), little bit of stretching, single-side glute work and hamstring work, TONS of oblique work (weighted and unweighted) and recently I've started doing back hyperextensions (unweighted) with a 3 second pause at the top of each rep. Good god my right side (injured side) is weak on these. I don't think I've ever done a proper back extension before anyway - it's always been a hip extension completely on accident, but these and the oblique work are doing magical things to fix my back.

Good to know about Bowflex, thought they were pretty good. At least their price suggests so! Those Ironmasters look awesome, too bad they are extremely expensive here, around 1000 euro with the 120lbs addon.

What I meant for cutting is, it's generally considered better to create a larger caloric deficit by exercise than eating significantly below your BMR. So if you want to lose 1kg a week it's a better idea to eat 500 calories less and burn 500 by doing some sort of activity than eating 1500. What kind of activity that is doesn't really matter, but a program with lots of different activities is way less boring than 1 hour on the crosstrainer or stationary bike. Also p90x isn't just an activity program, it also includes a pretty strict diet that makes it easier to eat properly. Anyway, not here to defend the program as I'm sure it's far from optimal. For me it's just a good kickstarter to get active again, add a bit of strength and improve my stamina.

On February 14 2013 16:17 farvacola wrote:
I'm down 1% bf and my 585 DL is intact.
Still, cutting sucks.

Wow, that deadlift
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 14 2013 13:54 GMT
#384
On February 14 2013 16:17 farvacola wrote:
I'm down 1% bf and my 585 DL is intact.
Still, cutting sucks.

Nice work! How long are you cutting?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 14:14:18
February 14 2013 14:14 GMT
#385
On February 14 2013 16:17 farvacola wrote:
I'm down 1% bf and my 585 DL is intact.
Still, cutting sucks.


dude seriously? Pics por favor?!
Tadatomo
Profile Joined December 2012
84 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 17:00:59
February 14 2013 16:59 GMT
#386
On February 14 2013 16:17 farvacola wrote:
I'm down 1% bf and my 585 DL is intact.
Still, cutting sucks.


Pray you don't get flu.

You are lower bf than TdF riders that burn 6000-9000 kcal on training days and go to sleep hungry every day. And they are on the juice. In fact. they have 4x as much bodyfat and I have 4x their bodyfat and I have abs. And that was before I got flu myself where I lost 3x your bodyfat in 3 days. Pretty impressive.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 14 2013 17:07 GMT
#387
He's down 1% bodyfat, not down to 1% bodyfat.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 14 2013 17:16 GMT
#388
Seriously, that's like you're dead levels.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
February 14 2013 17:44 GMT
#389
On February 15 2013 02:07 Sneakyz wrote:
He's down 1% bodyfat, not down to 1% bodyfat.

obviously, because you die at 3-4%..

On February 14 2013 16:17 farvacola wrote:
I'm down 1% bf and my 585 DL is intact.
Still, cutting sucks.

mirin, how did you measure your bf?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 18:09:28
February 14 2013 18:08 GMT
#390
Here's an old, dumb video of my DL, nothing different cept my pull is a bit slower. Keep in mind I use straps because my hands are small and my back/bi routine is a grip marathon lol.
+ Show Spoiler +

I think I'll be cutting for a month more or so, though I've really hit a stride with my agility drills/suicides at the end of most workouts, so I'ma keep doing those no matter what. My bf% came in at 13.3 using NIR, or infared monitor, and my abs are so so close to becoming deep cut. Once that happens, it'll be time for my 4.5 year progress shots

And damn right I'm praying I don't get the flu, though I haven't gotten an upper respiratory illness in over two years Chalk it up to the multi horse pills I love so much.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
February 14 2013 22:33 GMT
#391
Workouts for the past four days on the squat:

2/11/13 110kg 5x5
2/12/13 113kg 5,5,5,5,3
2/13/13 115kg 5,5,4,5,5
2/14/13 118kg 5,5,4,4,2

I think I'm gonna take tomorrow off and go for 120kg on saturday, or maybe try 118kg again since I missed so many reps today, it still felt like good work though. These were all PRs for 5x5 lol.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
February 15 2013 00:39 GMT
#392
Hit 80 kg squat today for 5x5

And then went back down to 68kg for 5x5 on my Bench
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autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:24:05
February 15 2013 01:23 GMT
#393
So I have a question regarding form. My football team is getting a new coach this year and he came around today at practice to watch the team lift. When I was benching he told me that my arms were to close together and I need to move them farther out. The reason I am skeptical is because he is big into crossfit, and I know a lot of crossfitters who think they know everything about lifting when they don't. No offense to any crossfitters on here, but that is just what I have experienced in real life. Anyways, back on topic. Here is a picture to demonstrate. Blue is where my pinkies were before. Red is where he told me to put my pinkies.


http://imgur.com/IZNTl1F
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:34:38
February 15 2013 01:31 GMT
#394
On February 15 2013 09:39 LovE- wrote:
Hit 80 kg squat today for 5x5

And then went back down to 68kg for 5x5 on my Bench

Good progress on the squats. Keep it up!

On February 15 2013 10:23 autoexec wrote:
So I have a question regarding form. My football team is getting a new coach this year and he came around today at practice to watch the team lift. When I was benching he told me that my arms were to close together and I need to move them farther out. The reason I am skeptical is because he is big into crossfit, and I know a lot of crossfitters who think they know everything about lifting when they don't. No offense to any crossfitters on here, but that is just what I have experienced in real life. Anyways, back on topic. Here is a picture to demonstrate. Blue is where my pinkies were before. Red is where he told me to put my pinkies.


http://imgur.com/IZNTl1F

I've always heard just do whatever feels like your getting the most power from. Any variation on that is just focusing on different aspects of the lift. If your goal is to put up the biggest number, you can test where the most comfortable grip is, I'm sure you already know where your "power" grip is compared to a close or wide grip.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:35:26
February 15 2013 01:32 GMT
#395
Grip width with bench follows this basic rule: Farther out=more chest emphasis, closer in=more triceps. Also keep in mind that the wider you go, the harder the exercise becomes. Somewhere in between, depending on your musculature, is where power is maximized. It is for this reason that I'd say your new lifting coach is a bit misguided because football training is looking more for power output than muscular stimulus. In other words, though you hardly want to directly imitate powerlifting form, you want more of that than the bodybuilding alternative (wider).
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:35:12
February 15 2013 01:32 GMT
#396
On February 13 2013 03:06 decaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 02:38 decafchicken wrote:
Lol hip flexor pain. Foam roll and stretch that shit and keep lifting.

It's resolved by now (did what you said).

The lightest weight plates my gym has are 1.25kg, and I feel that is too much to properly get better at the press and the bench press. This means I can only increment my press by 2.5kilos, which is way too much for those exercises (especially the press). Do you think microloading (buying my own 0.5kg plates) is required or should I just add 2.5kg every now and then and fail at the 4th or 5th rep?


personally i just aim for +1 rep rather than jumping a sudden +2.5kg.
but then my bench has only gone down the last 2 months so wtf do i know

skipped monday & tuesday coz feeling shitty about everything. tried wednesday but struggled to get 70kg bench up so bailed and ran 20 mins instead. last night thursday was dead tired, managed 80kg bench 5-5-4 then dl 120kg 5-5-2, then ran 20 mins. went to bed at 8pm afterwards to catch up on sleep, now its 1am which means i got 5 hrs *thumbs*
quit smoking again (0, 1, ) & fapping (0, 0), maybe if i get some testosterone back my bench will stop going down

@autoexec that blue grip does look really narrow to me
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autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
February 15 2013 01:40 GMT
#397
Well, I am a bit lacking in the chest area. My triceps on the other hand are very good. I guess that's why I'm pretty good at dips. I'm leaning towards using the new grip so I can work a little bit more on the chest if that is what it will help with.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
February 15 2013 01:45 GMT
#398
It can't hurt to try it out for a while. Just pay attention to keeping those elbows narrow and the back pinched, wide grip puts your shoulders at greater risk.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
February 15 2013 02:01 GMT
#399
Yeah I noticed that on one of my reps my left shoulder locked out halfway through the rep. It felt terrible lol
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
February 15 2013 02:16 GMT
#400
dumbbell ohp 5x7, 2x25lb
dumbbell rows 5x7, 45lb
dumbbell clean, 4x1, 2x45lb, tried for a 5th so i could complete my fifth squat set but couldnt get it up
dumbbell squat, 4x7, 2x45lb
dumbbell deadlift, 3x6, 2x50lb

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