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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
February 01 2013 10:33 GMT
#261
Asked huge bro squatting 245kg's for reps with the sickest legs I've ever seen how he trained legs. He told me that once a month he does pyramid sets of squats. I asked him whether I could err, recover from that kind of training; he responded that he did that way before he started juicing. 'Just be a man'.

So today's workout:

Squats:
70x25
80x15
90x12
100x10
110x8
100x10
90x12
80x15
70x25

Ofcourse the rest of the isolation exercises as well. Felt like throwing up for most of the session, but gotta man up. If this shit won't get me stronger than I don't know what will. Jesus talks to do on the downside of the period, had leg spasms after the 25 rep set.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 01 2013 12:43 GMT
#262
On January 31 2013 08:53 Mementoss wrote:
Ed Coan Week 5:

Deadlift (80%): 3x3 @ 300 lbs
Speed deadlift (65%): 3x3 @ 245 lbs (120 sec rest b/w sets)
Power shrugs (60% of current): 3x5 @ 205 lbs

Stiff-leg deadlift: 3x5x205
Bent over row: 3x5x165
Chin ups: 3x5
Hyperextensions: 3x5x55

If Week 4 was a 9/10 or 10/10 in terms of difficulty, Week 5 would be a 2-3 /10. Speed deadlifts flew up like it was just the bar.


Exactly how it should be. Week 5 is for active recovery. But it picks up the pace pretty fast after.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 01 2013 12:53 GMT
#263
Ugh switching from afternoon workout to morning and fasted sucked. Plus I did a bunch of bodyweight stuff last night. At least I went

Bench 135,155,185lb x5
Pull-ups 52.5lb 5,2,3 lost 4 reps from the last pull-ups workout XD
GBSS 60lb 3x10 each
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Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
February 01 2013 14:42 GMT
#264
Haven't posted in quite awhile! On the road back to my old pre-vacation PRs...As much fun as four weeks in Mexico was, lack of training and discipline with food translated to 15-lb weight loss and major decline in strength. So demoralizing.

Anyways, where I'm at now compared to old 1RM PRs I'd like to return to within the next three weeks:
360 -->385 squat
240-->260 bench
425-->460 deadlift
130-->140 OHP
235-->250 clean

Unrelated note #1: Found a barbell club here in town and dropped in on one of their sessions last week. They seem like a fun crowd, and it was so awesome to finally be able to legitimately train the Olympic lifts. No bumper plates at my regular gym means I haven't been able to really practice C&J and snatch as intensely as I'd like. Anyways, considering membership at this club is fairly expensive, I just have to decide if my long-term goals justify the extra expense and time commitment.

Unrelated note #2: Wasn't there some talk of putting together a TLHF shirt awhile back? Is that still happening? I had a random idea a couple days ago: Front of shirt shows stick figure A watching stick figure B doing curls, with the text "WHEN IN BROME" / Back of shirt shows stick figure A squatting, with the text "SQUAT ANYWAYS." And of course, some TLHF logo. Y/N?
steelANDmalice
Profile Joined October 2011
87 Posts
February 01 2013 21:53 GMT
#265
Tuesday

Deadlift: 465-6
snatch grip dl: 185--10-10-10
shrugs: 225-30-30-30

Friday

Push press: 185-5-5-7
seated db press: 60-7-7-7
seated cable row: 180-10-10-10
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 01 2013 22:25 GMT
#266
I know there's a few people here who know about this sort of stuff: What is the point of speed work in strength training? What is it's effect? I guess I'm talking about 1RMs for the big three (or four), I know the westside method uses a speed day so it must be useful for this.

If I wanted to lift 220 more quickly, I'd intuitively just keep going heavy till I'm doing it at 240, I'm pretty sure 220 will come up quickly then.
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
February 01 2013 23:46 GMT
#267
On February 02 2013 07:25 Deadeight wrote:
I know there's a few people here who know about this sort of stuff: What is the point of speed work in strength training? What is it's effect? I guess I'm talking about 1RMs for the big three (or four), I know the westside method uses a speed day so it must be useful for this.

If I wanted to lift 220 more quickly, I'd intuitively just keep going heavy till I'm doing it at 240, I'm pretty sure 220 will come up quickly then.



Speed days are about getting better at recruiting all of your motor units quickly for a movement. That way your body's trained to recruit all motor units ASAP if I understand properly
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 01 2013 23:59 GMT
#268
On February 02 2013 08:46 GuiltyJerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 07:25 Deadeight wrote:
I know there's a few people here who know about this sort of stuff: What is the point of speed work in strength training? What is it's effect? I guess I'm talking about 1RMs for the big three (or four), I know the westside method uses a speed day so it must be useful for this.

If I wanted to lift 220 more quickly, I'd intuitively just keep going heavy till I'm doing it at 240, I'm pretty sure 220 will come up quickly then.



Speed days are about getting better at recruiting all of your motor units quickly for a movement. That way your body's trained to recruit all motor units ASAP if I understand properly

It's also easier on your body so you can use it as a recovery/light day depending on what % of 1RM you're using.
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Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
February 02 2013 06:49 GMT
#269
Happy with today's workout:

Squats: 1x3x315lbs (PR), Bench 1x3x242.5lbs (PR), and Power cleans 1x3x175 (PR)
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 02 2013 09:08 GMT
#270
On February 01 2013 23:42 Vitruvian wrote:
Unrelated note #1: Found a barbell club here in town and dropped in on one of their sessions last week. They seem like a fun crowd, and it was so awesome to finally be able to legitimately train the Olympic lifts. No bumper plates at my regular gym means I haven't been able to really practice C&J and snatch as intensely as I'd like. Anyways, considering membership at this club is fairly expensive, I just have to decide if my long-term goals justify the extra expense and time commitment.

Unrelated note #2: Wasn't there some talk of putting together a TLHF shirt awhile back? Is that still happening? I had a random idea a couple days ago: Front of shirt shows stick figure A watching stick figure B doing curls, with the text "WHEN IN BROME" / Back of shirt shows stick figure A squatting, with the text "SQUAT ANYWAYS." And of course, some TLHF logo. Y/N?


note 1: awesome

note 2: super mega awesome x1000. Do it.
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
February 02 2013 09:35 GMT
#271
Note 2 is so awesome that I would actually order that shirt... and I never order shirts online. lol
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 02 2013 14:26 GMT
#272
missed friday coz too tired was playing dota2 late, then forgot shorts (not allowed to enter college gym without shorts incase u kill someone) & booked doctor so had to go home anyway!

saturday
ohp 55kg 5-5-5 (yay)
pclean several reps up to 60kg, trying to get my catch better (awful landing with feet)
squat 60kg 1x12
pullups ~7 reps

not great but at least i went. had some chicken now straight to work zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:14:49
February 02 2013 18:10 GMT
#273
On February 02 2013 18:35 Ahzz wrote:
Note 2 is so awesome that I would actually order that shirt... and I never order shirts online. lol


Anyone with tools more sophisticated than MS paint able to help polish?

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autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
February 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#274
On February 03 2013 03:10 Vitruvian wrote:
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On February 02 2013 18:35 Ahzz wrote:
Note 2 is so awesome that I would actually order that shirt... and I never order shirts online. lol


Anyone with tools more sophisticated than MS paint able to help polish?

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I think that looks good haha. Maybe add a squat rack to the guy doing the curls
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
February 02 2013 18:19 GMT
#275
On January 30 2013 08:08 Ender985 wrote:
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On January 29 2013 23:17 phyre112 wrote:
On January 29 2013 05:45 GuiltyJerk wrote:
On January 29 2013 05:19 Ender985 wrote:
Hey guys, I just started stronglifts 5x5 a couple of weeks ago, and seem to be doing ok, except for one thing:

I cannot press 25 kg over my head. It's pretty embarrassing xD

I'm starting to think there is a whole muscle in my arms that is entirely missing, or something to that effect. The critical point is when my arms are at 90 degrees, like this: |_O_| ; that is when I loose all the strength and the point where I can not complete the reps anymore. If I somehow cross that point I can make it all the way up no problem. Today I made 5, 4, then 2 reps, and in the face of complete failure, I lowered the weight to 22.5 kg and still could only complete 4 and 4.

I started doing the reps standing, but I found myself arching my back to push the weight over the critical point, which I think is bad form, so instead I changed to doing them sitting in a place where there is a straight back support.

So, any advice you guys can give me to get this going? I started adding abs exercises to my workouts, because I feel that might help strenghten my body overall. Can anyone recommend some additional exercise to train whatever muscle is that is completely failing me?

If it is any help, I am 1m 85, weight 75 kg and I never lifted a weight before in my life prior to doing this. The rest of the lifts I have no problem with, I'm just trying to get the form right and I can complete the whole 5x5 with barely any problem. I'm currently at 37.5 squat, 27.5 bench press, 50 deadlift, 37.5 barbell row.



Keep standing, and find a weight you can do 3 sets of 5 at, after that, instead of adding weight try working up to 3 sets of 7 slowly (might mean 1 extra rep on each set from one workout to the next, might mean one rep on one of the sets every workout for 3 workouts before you get there, press is tricky) before you add weight to the bar. Also, make sure the bar is as close to your face as possible, if you press it out in front even a little bit you will have massive problems (right around the point you say you have problems at)


That's pretty good advice. Also:

- Keep your shoulders externally rotated. to do this you have to have the right grip on the bar, and pull your elbows down and in.
- Engage your back muscles. The shoulder rotation really helps with this.
- Push "up" not "forward" and not "out", don't let your elbows sneak out even if it seems easier. It isn't, and it will hurt your progress long-term.
- really engage the glutes and core. Some amount of leaning back is acceptable, but if you're squeezing these two, you won't be able to bend too far.
- Push your head through your arms in the last ~1/4 of the lift to make yourself lock it out.
- try different rep schemes. for some people, 3x5 works best. Some like 3x10. Some like 5x5. I found the most success doing 3x5 OHP followed by 3x3 push press at ~110% of the weight.


Thanks a lot guys for all the good tips. I'll try to follow them on my next workout and hopefully get better at it!


Taking into account your advice, yesterday I did

Squat 42.5kg 5x5
OHP 22.5 6-6-6-6-7
Deadlift 60 1x5

Next OHP I'll probably try 25kg and 5x4, and then probably move to 5x5 and 5x6 before increasing to 27.5. Slow and steady.
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CYFAWS
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden275 Posts
February 02 2013 18:21 GMT
#276
On January 30 2013 23:39 Flicky wrote:
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On January 30 2013 23:01 CYFAWS wrote:
Bench press : 75 kg
Chin: + 20 kg
Deadlift: 150 kg
Squat: 90 kg
Overhand press: 50 kg

I don't know what the general patterns are, but i feel like my bench and squat are considerably weak compared to what deadlift and chinup


Your squat may look a little low but it will probably catch up soon. A lot of squatting is technique and the mental side of it. My squat was about 50kg behind my deadlift at one point but then caught up to 30kg~. I think it's just because the deadlift is a "simpler" lift. I hit a stall at 90kg, then broke it and worked up to 100kg no problem. Stalled there, broke up to 105kg which is where I am now. On the other hand, I didn't stall on deads for a long time.

Your bench looks fine too. I find that perception of bench weights is a bit skewed as almost everyone in the gym does bench, so expectations are higher than they probably should be. The guys that have 90kg bench and 100kg squats aren't doing the same program as you. They've been doing upper body excercises for a lot longer than you have and that's their focus. Hence the higher relative bench.

Don't be discouraged by it, stick with the lifts and they'll "balance out".


Thanks! When I started lifting i was really really weak, making good progress still! haven't felt discouraged yet. But i was a little WTF!?!? when my gf's brother started lifting and hit 90 kg in bench in absolutely no time, hehe. He is a lot taller and fatter than me though

As for squats, when i started doing them i couldn't keep my lower back steady, bending forward, shooting hips to the sides, whatever, when i did them in any heavy rep range. So i lowered the weight to jack shit and endured the mocking glances of the big guys, doing basically 40 kg squats for several months, slowly building up weight. When i started doing heavy sets again, my lower back was rock solid
dannystarcraft
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:43:34
February 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#277
Okay. Got a workout.

Tuesday – Thursday – Saturday (Upper Body/Core Day)
Main Lifts:

• 3x10 135 Bench
• 3x10 135 Decline
• 3x10 Dips
• 10x10 Pull-ups
• 1x10 1x5 95 Military
Forearms:
• 1x50 50 Finger Rolls
• 2x45 Hold 60 Seconds
Miscellaneous:
• 3x10 25 Horizontal Plate Extensions
Core:
• 2x25 Glute-Ham Raise
• 1x200 Scissor Kicks (side to side)
• 1x100 Scissor Kicks (up and down)
• 1x50 Oblique (Both Side)
• 1x85 Full Motion Sit-ups on Decline Bench

I did Military for the first time in a long long time today. I have pretty weak shoulders and was only able to get 1 set of 10 at 95 lbs and 1 set of 5 at 95. I want to work my way up to 3x10 eventually (and really eventually get to 135 pounds). I think I may have been thrown off because I was using a military press "bench" that you lean against. I used to just clean the weight and lift sitting on a normal bench. Not sure which way is better. Eventually after that I want to add incline bench 3x10 at 135. I also want to add Superman Pushups ^^ just because they look awesome.

I want to get Glute Ham up to 3x25. Also, get Pullups to 15x10. I really really want to do towel pull ups (for like 6 sets). But I don't know if I can get that to fly at my gym.

Friday – Sunday (Lower Body) <-- So I don't become a CurlBro
Main Lifts:
• 3x5 135 Power Clean (Sunday Only)
• 5x5 135 155 175 195 215 Squat
• 5x5 135 155 175 195 215 Straight Bar Deadlift (Friday Only)
Endurance:
• 1x50 Body Lunches
• 1x50 Prisoner Squats
Auxiliary:
• 3x10 45 One leg Ham Curls
• 3x10 225 245 265 Standing Calf Raises

Honestly, I freaking hate Straightbar deadlift. I may just replace it with Power Cleans, it is basically the same... Kind of. Lol. On top of that I cannot find a hex bar at the gym. So we will see. Not sure how much I will lose without deadlift. I am also looking to move up in squat weight (these weights are pretty easy), however, I don't have a good spot for these so I don't want to push it.

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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
February 02 2013 18:45 GMT
#278
Why do you hate straight bar deadlift? Have you tried both sumo and reg?
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dannystarcraft
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 18:56:14
February 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#279
On February 03 2013 03:45 farvacola wrote:
Why do you hate straight bar deadlift? Have you tried both sumo and reg?


I always hit my knees!

Maybe I am doing it wrong?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 19:09:52
February 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#280
Hmm, yeah I used to have a similar issue when I first started DL'ing, and though they still tear up my lower legs if I'm not wearing pants, I think you may need to work on bringing that chest out a bit more, pointing that chin a bit higher up, and really sinking the hips before a rep. If you ever want to, throw up a vid, there'll be plenty of people who can offer some advice
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