EPT2012 - 2013 Football Thread! - Page 445
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
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clementdudu
France819 Posts
On May 27 2013 06:36 Pandemona wrote: But you understand you can't just throw money at it with the FFP rules incoming? Chelsea make money even when they spend £50million on Torres and 30Million on Hazard they still turn over a profit which is fine. I rather doubt PSG and Monaco have the income from sponserships/sales to compete with the links of Barca/Real/United. And if they fail to meet the FFP rulings they wont be able to compete in Champs League thus they wont be able to get the best players? i think psg just signed the worlds biggest deal on jersey sponsorship,iam not sure though | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6284 Posts
On May 28 2013 00:50 Steveling wrote: Why don't we have any italians here? We must recruit some from other threads. lol I don't follow the italian league anymore and I was so surprised by their new players in the last euro. The Italian league is so incredibly boring I think even Italians don't watch it anymore... | ||
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sharkie
Austria18667 Posts
On May 27 2013 21:05 mavignon wrote: Blanc is very good, he was elected manager of the year in his first year, won Ligue 1 on his second year, went with Bordeaux to the Champion's League quarter finals with the likes of Gourcuff, Chamakh and Alou Diarra xD. He has the second best record of undefeated games with the France national team behind Aimé Jacquet (France 98). He plays a possession game, offensive football which is very entertaining. As a player, he was a world-class defender and played with the very best. In my book Blanc > Allegri Yeah Blanc was a very good manager. And world class as a defender, I am sad he quit the national team  | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
On May 28 2013 03:01 sharkie wrote: Yeah Blanc was a very good manager. And world class as a defender, I am sad he quit the national team I think Ancelotti is staying because i heard rumors that Jupp wants the Real job now. Hopefully, we can keep Ancelotti for another year then if Ancelotti wants to leave still then he can fuck off. Wenger will come to PSG and lead us to glory. Tbh Blanc is a good coach for a small team. He can't handle egos that well like how we saw with the national team. I doubt he can handle the likes of Menez, Ibra, and maybe Rooney if he comes. On May 28 2013 02:44 RvB wrote: The Italian league is so incredibly boring I think even Italians don't watch it anymore... Serie A is not boring at all. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:02 ilj.psa wrote: So anyone knows what is the overall price Barca paid for Neymar? Lot of speculation from the media all over the world, i don't know who to trust. Brasil says 25M, SPORT says 53M and Sid Lowe is saying over 100M. Well rm offered more so I doubt it was anywhere close to 100m. I think around 50m. | ||
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:05 Steveling wrote: Well rm offered more so I doubt it was anywhere close to 100m. I think around 50m. It was 100m in total. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/26/neymar-barcelona-santos-move Neymar's contractual situation was complex, with a number of interested parties involved: the DIS investment group held 40% of his economic rights while another group, TEISA, held 5% and Santos 55%. But Santos held 100% of his registration. In the end, Barcelona reportedly agreed to pay Santos and those partners around €28m, plus a further €30m to the player and close to €9m in agents' fees. A down payment of €10m had already been made in January 2011. Neymar will sign a five-year contract on a salary of €7m a season. In total, that means the package is worth more than €100m. RM's bid was reportedly 150m, that's why Barca's coach came out and said Neymar chose for football reasons and not financial. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:21 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: meh. either way its a joke that clubs with debts in the hundreds of millions are still allowed to spend that much money on players. The country is in economic shambles, why would it be any different with their sporting clubs? | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
50m is a lot of money. He also didn't even want to get an offer from bayern and chelsea. I hope he succeeds for this reason alone. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Why do you bring that here? Do you want me to post the amount of germany's and america's national banks debt and the reasons why you haven't flopped on your bellies yet? You won't like it. This is the one thread we can be silly and poke each other in good fun, take your biased political views elsewhere. Sry for back seat moderating. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:23 kakaman wrote: The country is in economic shambles, why would it be any different with their sporting clubs? What I don't understand is how the Spanish people are okay with this? | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
 I personally have very little knowledge of the size of different kind of debts and how they actually afflict the way a club may spend money, yet I wonder from time to time how they manage to spend that much again and again. | ||
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:29 Steveling wrote: @ the two guys above me Why do you bring that here? Do you want me to post the amount of germany's and america's national banks debt and the reasons why you haven't flopped on your bellies yet? You won't like it. This is the one thread we can be silly and poke each other in good fun, take your biased political views elsewhere. Sry for back seat moderating. A Greek talking about national debt? Pretty ironic don't you think? My comment was not political at all, it talks to the overall point of how Barca and RM spend money they don't have, even after taking into account the fact that they hold the majority share of their TV rights (unlike EPL which is shared equally). This is acceptable in Spain due to the fact that the country is run the same way. In England, you have fans of United lament the fact that the Glazers pump the club with debt, but you won't hear such grumblings in Spain. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/04/barcelona-real-madrid-spain-pain http://sportsnewsireland.com/soccer/soccer_irish/real-madrid-tops-football-rich-list-but-who-tops-the-debt-list-2013-04-18/ Here is the top ten and what they are worth: 1. Real Madrid £2.18billion 2. Manchester United £2.09billion 3. Barcelona £1.72billion 4. Arsenal £880million 5. Bayern Munich £860million 6. Ac Milan £624million 7. Chelsea £595million 8. Juventus £458million 9. Manchester City £455million 10. Liverpool £430million Now here is the debts those teams seem to have: 1. Real Madrid £600million 2. Manchester United £359.7million 3. Barcelona £369.5million 4. Arsenal £104million 5. Bayern Munich- NO DEBT they have been in profit ever since the 2011-12 season. 6. AC Milan £298.8million 7. Chelsea- NO DEBT they made a profit of 1.2million dated April 10th 2013 8. Juventus £48.65million 9. Manchester City- NO DEBT but have yet to release their profit margins 10. Liverpool £237million Oh look, RM debt/EV ratio is 30%, Barca is 21%. Man United is the highest in England at 18%. Champions League winner Munich has 0 debt. Is it a mere coincidence that clubs are run the same as their countries? | ||
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haitike
Spain2735 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:34 Ysellian wrote: What I don't understand is how the Spanish people are okay with this? Well, most spanish are very skeptical right now. They would say you that otherwise that money would go to corrupted politicians anyway, so... | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Here. I will let you figure out the reason why a country with 10m population and such a small debt(comparing with g20 countries) that makes the staggering 3% of the european economy is the bad guy. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:48 haitike wrote: Well, most spanish are very skeptical right now. They would say you that otherwise that money would go to corrupted politicians anyway, so... Sad state of affairs | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6284 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18667 Posts
On May 28 2013 05:52 Steveling wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt Here. I will let you figure out the reason why a country with 10m population and such a small debt(comparing with g20 countries) that makes the staggering 3% of the european economy is the bad guy. lol are you seriously trying to defend Greece here? haha | ||
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