EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2012 - Page 158
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rEiGN~
369 Posts
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emjaytron
Australia544 Posts
On April 03 2012 10:29 GoTuNk! wrote: Had to split my gym in 2 cause I'm banned from deadlift at university (fuck them and they retarded rules, joined another gym by my house). I built my own deadlift platform there, so they said I could deadlift np. Gonna get a pic later. Morning: Bench 100kgx2x2, 110kgx2x2, 120x1 Afternoon: Deadlift 152.5kgx1x5 Happy to press my max again, I'm sure I got a lot more in me  Deadlifts are obv very easy, Hopefully 152.5x1x15 by saturday is tough :p Ok I have to ask, was the ban from the noise of dropping plates, or from your super saiyan screams of rage | ||
zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
1. Press: Guy who seemed to know what he was talking about told me to not stand with completely straight legs during presses, to help with back tightness. I have been doing military presses with straight legs so far, but recently had some trouble keeping my upper body stable. However if I bend knees just slightly I worry that I will use some leg drive to press the bar up. What do you guys think? 2. Deadlift: Guy told me to not "relax" when the bar is on the ground. He is right in that I basically do 5 single deadlifts, sometimes also let go of the bar to switch grip. Basically I do relax my back for a moment to tighten everything again for the next lift. Is there a problem with that? | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On April 03 2012 19:12 zatic wrote: Two questions: 1. Press: Guy who seemed to know what he was talking about told me to not stand with completely straight legs during presses, to help with back tightness. I have been doing military presses with straight legs so far, but recently had some trouble keeping my upper body stable. However if I bend knees just slightly I worry that I will use some leg drive to press the bar up. What do you guys think? 2. Deadlift: Guy told me to not "relax" when the bar is on the ground. He is right in that I basically do 5 single deadlifts, sometimes also let go of the bar to switch grip. Basically I do relax my back for a moment to tighten everything again for the next lift. Is there a problem with that? 1. Sounds like either weak abs, sloppy grip or super close feet. Move your up to about shoulder width and see if that helps. The bend in the knees seems like too slippery of a slope. 2. I don't pull a lot but I don't see how keeping tightness helps, unless you don't let the bar get to a full stop. You CAN relax everything, because there is no load on you unlike with squatting. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On April 03 2012 19:12 zatic wrote: Two questions: 1. Press: Guy who seemed to know what he was talking about told me to not stand with completely straight legs during presses, to help with back tightness. I have been doing military presses with straight legs so far, but recently had some trouble keeping my upper body stable. However if I bend knees just slightly I worry that I will use some leg drive to press the bar up. What do you guys think? 2. Deadlift: Guy told me to not "relax" when the bar is on the ground. He is right in that I basically do 5 single deadlifts, sometimes also let go of the bar to switch grip. Basically I do relax my back for a moment to tighten everything again for the next lift. Is there a problem with that? If you squeeze your abs and glutes it's basically impossible to over arch your back if that's your problem. Don't see why would need to bend your knees apart from maybe when you lower a really heavy weight to take pressure of the knee joint. No there is no problem with that, most people even suggest you do somewhat of a reset to make sure you've got a proper setup. It's called deadlift for a reason. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On April 03 2012 15:12 shawster wrote: damn thanks for the insight bball season just ended and next year is my last year on the school team and a goal of mine is to dunk by next year. (decemberish) How tall are you and what do you weigh? For reference with the numbers I gave you earlier, I'm 6'4 (193 cm) but I still have a pretty awful vertical. I'm just getting to the stage where it's worth it to specifically train my jump (plyometrics and etc. - if I were still playing basketball) but it's still at least as useful for the jump, and much more useful in any other athletic situation to have a big squat. Seriously, you get strong on this program and you won't believe the change it makes, no matter what position you're playing. On April 03 2012 19:12 zatic wrote: Two questions: 1. Press: Guy who seemed to know what he was talking about told me to not stand with completely straight legs during presses, to help with back tightness. I have been doing military presses with straight legs so far, but recently had some trouble keeping my upper body stable. However if I bend knees just slightly I worry that I will use some leg drive to press the bar up. What do you guys think? 2. Deadlift: Guy told me to not "relax" when the bar is on the ground. He is right in that I basically do 5 single deadlifts, sometimes also let go of the bar to switch grip. Basically I do relax my back for a moment to tighten everything again for the next lift. Is there a problem with that? The guy's advice is arguably correct... he's just missing the mark. Yes, bending your knees slightly will pull more muscles into the lift and give your a stronger, more stable base with which to push from. Same thing happens in standard Overhead Press (shoulder width feet) vs Military press (heels touching). thing is that this change puts new mechanics to the lift. If the military press is what you were aiming for, stick with it. If you'd like to change it up here, go ahead and try it, decide which one you like more - hell, I do more push presses than I do overhead presses, personally. The lift progresses better, it feels like I'm getting work in my shoulders rather than being limited by what I can stabilize, and it's a full-body co-ordinated movement, that can be done for power or for strength. Test each way out and determine what suits you. As far as the deadlift, it's bullshit. So long as it's a few seconds between reps (less than 10) it's not going to change your energy pathways in the muscles under strain. While it might have some minor effect if you were aiming to be a pro-bodybuilder, I'm not familiar with what that would be, and it's so miniscule that it's probably outweighed by the benefits to resetting your form on every rep anyway. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
squat 80kg 3x6 press 45kg 3x6 clean 60kg 5x3 approx (give or take) having mp3 player makes an AMAZING difference coz it helps me to relax/distract my mind . i got the 8gb sandisk from amazon £34 , its perfect so far. and mine doesnt lose its place when it turns off, like some people said i think. but hell it makes a HUGE difference. | ||
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smash1
60 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On April 03 2012 21:23 smash1 wrote: )do you really need to do use dumbells? i see every one here posting that hes doing dead lifts etc, but at my gym the dumbells are usually in use so I have only been using the other devices, isnt it possible to get buff without using dumbels? do you mean barbells? + Show Spoiler + dumbbell: ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/TwoDumbbells.JPG/220px-TwoDumbbells.JPG) barbell: ![[image loading]](http://manlycurls.com/blog_new/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/olympic-barbell-power-cleans.jpg) it is possible to get buff doing other stuff. but its just much harder. if you are a beginner there is just no real way around the big three (squat/bench/deadlift). bodyweight exercises are probably best. machines are pretty terrible at building a base strength level. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On April 03 2012 17:58 rEiGN~ wrote: motherfucking knees. this strong guy at gym warned me about my knees caving in on the last set, and he's right. it's been a problem for me. Had the same problem a week or so ago: On March 20 2012 06:00 FFGenerations wrote: "try to push the ground apart beneath you" <- something like that On March 20 2012 07:17 GoTuNk! wrote: Screw your legs on the floor outwards :p Made a huge difference. Better form and recruited more muscles. Got a "hey, what's up" from the star point guard after squatting in the rack next to him yesterday haha. I can't wait to be able to do a respectable dunk. Got close a few years back after a lot of plyo stuff but I had done a squat one time before in my life XD On April 03 2012 21:36 Osmoses wrote: I wanna listen to my own music too but I have nowhere on me to keep my phone that won't get the wires all tangled up, especially during squat and deadlift. Might try wireless. Have you tried running the headphone wires through your shirt and up? That's what I do when I have to move around with headphones in at least. | ||
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TheResidentEvil
United States991 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
so shattered after work, if power clean didnt fry my nervous system, bending over 100,000,000 times in my shitty bending over job has . back aching nonstop for the past 6 hours. its not the heavy deadlifts/cleans that fuck with me, its my motherfucking job ahhhh SHOW YOUR CROTCH GUY | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On April 03 2012 06:07 sJarl wrote: Finishing my 2nd year of med school. It is as Phyre said a 6 year programme. @Phyre112: I'm not really sure how much is preferred but 3-4 inches is considered the norm. @Blonde: bloody hell, those dragonflag numbers are impressive. I know you won't be doing it in the UK, but how much of it is "hard" science? I don't know anyone who studies Medicine at my uni to ask that to, the med school is really separate to the campus. I've been thinking that I'll apply to postgrad medicine when I graduate, just wanting a better idea of the content. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On April 04 2012 07:50 Deadeight wrote: I know you won't be doing it in the UK, but how much of it is "hard" science? I don't know anyone who studies Medicine at my uni to ask that to, the med school is really separate to the campus. I've been thinking that I'll apply to postgrad medicine when I graduate, just wanting a better idea of the content. What do you mean by hard science? We've had a lot of anatomy, physiology, chemistry, org chem and bio chem - just just fundamental subjects. More "applied" stuff comes later  We really are apart from the rest of the people on campus since we are in a separate building during our pre-clinical years and on the hospital the rest. Only people we really hang out with is other med students (but they are nice so it's ok) Finally got back to the gym, took it rather easy today: CJ: up to 80kg x 5 (as per 3/5/1) and one single @ 90kg Military Press: 50kg x 10 and 55kg x 6 DB BP: up to 28kg x 10 for some ez pump. bacon and deadlifts tomorrow <3 | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On April 03 2012 21:18 phyre112 wrote: How tall are you and what do you weigh? For reference with the numbers I gave you earlier, I'm 6'4 (193 cm) but I still have a pretty awful vertical. I'm just getting to the stage where it's worth it to specifically train my jump (plyometrics and etc. - if I were still playing basketball) but it's still at least as useful for the jump, and much more useful in any other athletic situation to have a big squat. Seriously, you get strong on this program and you won't believe the change it makes, no matter what position you're playing. . 6'0 - 6'1 about 145 i can touch the rim with 1 hand and running start if i'm warmed up. i can squat about bodyweight atm. yeah i really need to get my lifts up first | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 03 2012 18:25 emjaytron wrote: Ok I have to ask, was the ban from the noise of dropping plates, or from your super saiyan screams of rage Can't use slippers, nor drop the bar T_T. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
Also, finally going to man up and do power cleans. I know it's what I want and I've just been scared to start. | ||
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
On April 04 2012 10:22 mordek wrote: So gym closes for Good Friday... any problem with moving the workout to Thursday and do two days in a row? Also, finally going to man up and do power cleans. I know it's what I want and I've just been scared to start. Why not just go Saturday and have your two days off be on Thurs/Fri? Also, I just started doing power cleans the other day. They really aren't that hard to learn. You'll be fine. | ||
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Donkeys
Mexico308 Posts
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