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Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
March 17 2012 19:44 GMT
#2561
315 squat is jinxed for me, passed out at 5pm last night and woke up in time to get to the gym when I wanted to, unfortunately this meant no dinner and breakfast of some jerky. Little food = 1rep not 3 =[.

Gonna do this week over since wednesday sucked as well.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 17 2012 20:26 GMT
#2562
Read about stuff. Came to a list of dont's. One was benching to failure without a spotter. I don't see the problem with this, it's very easy to just dump the weights off to the side. I guess it might become more of a problem when I start lifting heavier though.

Guess I gotta get myself a gymbro.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 20:32:00
March 17 2012 20:30 GMT
#2563
i hope that was a joke. a) dumping after failure or any other time is potentially going to injure yourself...or someone else b) you'll get kicked out of your gym c) you need to be spotted on bench press because the energy expended to lift-off from the rack by yourself severely rapes your pressing ability d) people suggest that you should never or infrequently go to failure because it fucks your nervous system/recovery
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 17 2012 21:15 GMT
#2564
On March 18 2012 05:26 Osmoses wrote:
Read about stuff. Came to a list of dont's. One was benching to failure without a spotter. I don't see the problem with this, it's very easy to just dump the weights off to the side. I guess it might become more of a problem when I start lifting heavier though.

Guess I gotta get myself a gymbro.


Wouldn't that make the risk of pulling your biceps pretty high?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
March 17 2012 21:28 GMT
#2565
On March 18 2012 05:30 FFGenerations wrote:
i hope that was a joke. a) dumping after failure or any other time is potentially going to injure yourself...or someone else b) you'll get kicked out of your gym c) you need to be spotted on bench press because the energy expended to lift-off from the rack by yourself severely rapes your pressing ability d) people suggest that you should never or infrequently go to failure because it fucks your nervous system/recovery


Dumping after failure isn't a big deal, but it's not something you want to be forced into often. Rule of thumb is if you're not positive you'll get the set, just ask for a spot - it's probably going to help you in the long run, anyway because you're not going to stop on a rep you potentially could have had. And if you get kicked out of your gym for dumping a weight that's crushing you, you're at a pretty crappy gym anyway. Going to failure (and doing it often) can really wear you out, or lead to injuries that's true - but having a spotter doesn't necessarily change how often you're doing that.

Just don't bench too often - you should be doing back exercises at LEAST as often as you do bench, and preferably more often, especially if you're already lagging behind on back.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
March 17 2012 21:52 GMT
#2566
On March 18 2012 04:05 Daigomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 03:50 rEiGN~ wrote:
On March 17 2012 23:22 sJarl wrote:
On March 17 2012 23:19 rEiGN~ wrote:
powerlifters and their 10 spotters, ugh.


would suck to tear a ligament in the knee (or just something go wrong) and have 400kg crashing down on you...

They just happened to be in the gym at the time and would've been watching him either way so I don't see why they couldn't spot him just in case something went wrong.

see your point, I guess it's just a personal preference of mine that I find for example this much more impressive, and also olympic lifting in general.

I dunno, as long as the guy lifts the weight on his own, who cares if there are 10 guys standing around him? It feels a bit like saying it's more impressive to squat in a squat rack without a safety catch.



Even tho I do feel the sentimient behind having 10 people spotting for you, I do feel fucking umcomfy having just 1 guy behind me, "helping me". There was this time a guy "tried" to help me, but halfway through my lift I had to tell him, no bro, I feel unsafer with you.

It did feel pretty douchy, but fuck, I hate it when I don't feel comfortable lifting my weight. .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
March 17 2012 21:55 GMT
#2567
On March 18 2012 06:52 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 04:05 Daigomi wrote:
On March 18 2012 03:50 rEiGN~ wrote:
On March 17 2012 23:22 sJarl wrote:
On March 17 2012 23:19 rEiGN~ wrote:
powerlifters and their 10 spotters, ugh.


would suck to tear a ligament in the knee (or just something go wrong) and have 400kg crashing down on you...

They just happened to be in the gym at the time and would've been watching him either way so I don't see why they couldn't spot him just in case something went wrong.

see your point, I guess it's just a personal preference of mine that I find for example this much more impressive, and also olympic lifting in general.

I dunno, as long as the guy lifts the weight on his own, who cares if there are 10 guys standing around him? It feels a bit like saying it's more impressive to squat in a squat rack without a safety catch.



Even tho I do feel the sentimient behind having 10 people spotting for you, I do feel fucking umcomfy having just 1 guy behind me, "helping me". There was this time a guy "tried" to help me, but halfway through my lift I had to tell him, no bro, I feel unsafer with you.

It did feel pretty douchy, but fuck, I hate it when I don't feel comfortable lifting my weight. .

I agree so much on this. However, I think the people at sJarls gym know how to spot pretty well.
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
March 17 2012 22:45 GMT
#2568
Took my martial arts test today :D:D:D:D Feel pretty good about it, super tired though, gonna be sore/have some bruises tomorrow.

But the good news is that it's back to the weight training on Monday :D:D:D::D:D (Might put it off to Wednesday if I don't feel at least 90% again by Monday)
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 23:03:58
March 17 2012 22:58 GMT
#2569


I didn't know what this could be before watching, even dumber than I could have imagined.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
March 17 2012 23:30 GMT
#2570
needs facebook integration
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 23:47:26
March 17 2012 23:37 GMT
#2571


i wonder how many calories ill burn if i attach it to my fap hand


with jumpsnap i lost 11 inches from my brain
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 17 2012 23:47 GMT
#2572
Wow..... damn tell sell garbage. Burn the stuff I say!
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
March 17 2012 23:53 GMT
#2573
On March 18 2012 08:47 solidbebe wrote:
Wow..... damn tell sell garbage. Burn the stuff I say!


after that new usa movie someones gonna get beaten to death with a jumpsnap. calling it
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 18 2012 00:38 GMT
#2574
Anyways. I wonder how much those people got paid to promote the jumpsnap.

That aside finally got drivers license. EZmilk has arrived. Flexibility is the worst tho. Still stretching every day, very little progress.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 18 2012 01:45 GMT
#2575
As stupid as that jumpsnap is, whoever invented it is a genius.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 18 2012 09:58 GMT
#2576
Still not as good as the shake weight.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 18 2012 10:05 GMT
#2577
On March 18 2012 06:28 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 05:30 FFGenerations wrote:
i hope that was a joke. a) dumping after failure or any other time is potentially going to injure yourself...or someone else b) you'll get kicked out of your gym c) you need to be spotted on bench press because the energy expended to lift-off from the rack by yourself severely rapes your pressing ability d) people suggest that you should never or infrequently go to failure because it fucks your nervous system/recovery


Dumping after failure isn't a big deal, but it's not something you want to be forced into often. Rule of thumb is if you're not positive you'll get the set, just ask for a spot - it's probably going to help you in the long run, anyway because you're not going to stop on a rep you potentially could have had. And if you get kicked out of your gym for dumping a weight that's crushing you, you're at a pretty crappy gym anyway. Going to failure (and doing it often) can really wear you out, or lead to injuries that's true - but having a spotter doesn't necessarily change how often you're doing that.

Just don't bench too often - you should be doing back exercises at LEAST as often as you do bench, and preferably more often, especially if you're already lagging behind on back.

Well I'm still relatively new at heavy lifting so I think I have a buffer in recovery compared to the advanced lifter. I don't gp to failure every time, maybe once a week, and I bench three times a week. Doing big three though, which means I also squat and deadlift three times a week. So far it's working out. I usually get more exhausted from the squats than the bench.

I work out early in the morning, so spotters aren't really readily available (obviously I'm also not risking injury to anyone else because nobody else is around). And asking a complete stranger to pause what he's doing to help me isn't really in my world. As for the unracking, I've found simply lying further in on the bench solves this pretty well, don't see why you should unrack the bar to more than a couple centimeters from the rack.

People also suggest you should give your first set 100%. Maybe not all the time, but doing less should be the exception. I really don't think I could be hurting my CNS at my level anyway.

Oh, and obviously I'm not doing another rep if I don't feel strong, if I don't feel like I can do it. When I go to failure I usually just barely miss it. And at the moment, with only 75kg on the bar, it's not hard to lean the bar sideways to dump.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 10:29:22
March 18 2012 10:28 GMT
#2578
at 75kg bench you should try to get random spotters if they are there or even in the next room. i just walk up randomly and say "hey do you mind giving me a lift off? im going to do 5, dont touch the bar unless its fallen on my neck", been denied only twice and those guys just said "sorry, bad back". at 75kg bench i think its already very important to get a lift off, and what isnt in your world can rapidly become a thing of the past.. it has been that way for all of us after all
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
March 18 2012 10:43 GMT
#2579
I'm pretty sure you should be able to unrack the weight yourself when benching.
On incline might be a different story, but on flat bench unrack it yourself.

Maybe not on 1rm attempts but normal rep weight shouldn't be a problem.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 18 2012 13:33 GMT
#2580
On March 18 2012 19:43 glurio wrote:
I'm pretty sure you should be able to unrack the weight yourself when benching.
On incline might be a different story, but on flat bench unrack it yourself.

Maybe not on 1rm attempts but normal rep weight shouldn't be a problem.


It's not that you can't, but it fucking sucks. It's a waste of energy, puts your shoulder under unnecesary stress and ruins ur technique.
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