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On March 19 2012 21:05 Osmoses wrote:
Nice job Zafrumi!
Me, I had a pretty shitty session today. Woke up with backpains so I decided to just work on form. Did a few squats at 80%, got pissed off at how inable I was to keep a straight back without shoving my knees forward. Also got really, really tired. Did some benching, decided my back just wasn't up for deadlifts and left.
Question is, how do you tell the difference between when your body needs a break vs when you're just being a pussy?
I had one good scenario where it would've been 100% better to stay home recently. I had (i.e. think I had) exertion headaches and I was getting them throughout the day. I was 100% certain that it would flare up during my workout and it did and it was really bad. Thankfully it stayed back for the next workout but I can still feel it lurking around.
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omfg man..that sexy boom at the end!
btw.
"It doesn't matter how slow you go, as long as you don't stop."
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On March 19 2012 22:13 Osmoses wrote:
So frustrating, squats is the only movement still giving me trouble. Stance wide, feet out, look down, elbows back, chest up, ass out, hip drive, squeeze core, it's really difficult to remember to do it all at once. I don't want to be the guy who's ego breaks him, but lowering the weight until I get proper form... hurts my ego.
I would say just lower the weight to where you can comfortably get the sets/reps you want and then add on from there. Use that momentum of increasing the weight each time to build confidence for the next workout. You can tell yourself, "Well I lifted this much 3 weeks ago and I'm back there again" but you can also tell yourself to shut up and look at the positives  If you're not comfortable with the squats at this point and having to think about the form/technique it's probably a really good idea to back off. Same principle as the warm ups, you use those to get warmed up but to also focus on form, so when you're lifting heavy crap your only thinking about finishing the rep not if your on your toes or if your back is straight.
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South Africa4316 Posts
On March 19 2012 22:13 Osmoses wrote:
So frustrating, squats is the only movement still giving me trouble. Stance wide, feet out, look down, elbows back, chest up, ass out, hip drive, squeeze core, it's really difficult to remember to do it all at once. I don't want to be the guy who's ego breaks him, but lowering the weight until I get proper form... hurts my ego.
For me, I almost never lower the weight unless I'm injured/deloading, but if I know my technique is shit I stay on the same weight until I feel more comfortable. This depends a lot on how shit your technique is of course. With me, I can usually do the first few reps with proper technique before it starts sucking. On the other hand, if the weight is so heavy that you can't even do one rep with proper technique you should probably lower the weight before you hurt yourself.
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Great job Zafrumi! Didn't even look that hard. Fast all the way except for the small shaky part lol.
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On March 19 2012 22:46 funkie wrote:
omfg man..that sexy boom at the end!
btw.
"It doesn't matter how slow you go, as long as you don't stop."
damn right a rep is a rep!
On March 19 2012 23:26 sJarl wrote:
Great job Zafrumi! Didn't even look that hard. Fast all the way except for the small shaky part lol.
cheers mate! what do you think the problem was there? I had the same issue on my failed 190kgx2 attempt. bad lockout? weak quads?
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On March 19 2012 23:07 Daigomi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 22:13 Osmoses wrote:
So frustrating, squats is the only movement still giving me trouble. Stance wide, feet out, look down, elbows back, chest up, ass out, hip drive, squeeze core, it's really difficult to remember to do it all at once. I don't want to be the guy who's ego breaks him, but lowering the weight until I get proper form... hurts my ego. For me, I almost never lower the weight unless I'm injured/deloading, but if I know my technique is shit I stay on the same weight until I feel more comfortable. This depends a lot on how shit your technique is of course. With me, I can usually do the first few reps with proper technique before it starts sucking. On the other hand, if the weight is so heavy that you can't even do one rep with proper technique you should probably lower the weight before you hurt yourself.
Unless you're mad a your gf, you feel like riping someone's shit off and you want to rape your other lifts and life by doing a 1RM of 180kg.
That's the stuff .
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South Africa4316 Posts
On March 19 2012 23:33 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 23:07 Daigomi wrote:On March 19 2012 22:13 Osmoses wrote:
So frustrating, squats is the only movement still giving me trouble. Stance wide, feet out, look down, elbows back, chest up, ass out, hip drive, squeeze core, it's really difficult to remember to do it all at once. I don't want to be the guy who's ego breaks him, but lowering the weight until I get proper form... hurts my ego. For me, I almost never lower the weight unless I'm injured/deloading, but if I know my technique is shit I stay on the same weight until I feel more comfortable. This depends a lot on how shit your technique is of course. With me, I can usually do the first few reps with proper technique before it starts sucking. On the other hand, if the weight is so heavy that you can't even do one rep with proper technique you should probably lower the weight before you hurt yourself. Unless you're mad a your gf, you feel like riping someone's shit off and you want to rape your other lifts and life by doing a 1RM of 180kg. That's the stuff .
I'm not sure if I have incredible restraint or if I'm just a pussy, but I've never tried to find my 1RM. So far I'm happy just improving my 5RM constantly :p
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Great job Zafrumi! Sounded like a shotgun when the bar hit the ground, didn't think the rep looked slow at all, slowed down at the shaky part obviously, but not slow.
What routine will you do now that you're done with coan/philipi?
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On March 19 2012 23:36 KOVU wrote:
Great job Zafrumi! Sounded like a shotgun when the bar hit the ground, didn't think the rep looked slow at all, slowed down at the shaky part obviously, but not slow.
What routine will you do now that you're done with coan/philipi?
thanks I'm not sure, i'll probably do rip's advanced novice program and start cutting. never had a sixpack in my life and I might just make that my next goal ^^ although I really really hate cutting :/
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Hey I'm looking for a site that accepts paypal and ships to europe (belgium specifically) cheaply.
It's for some vitamin D and fish oil. No site seems to get close to iherb's prices.
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On March 20 2012 00:25 Seth_ wrote:
Hey I'm looking for a site that accepts paypal and ships to europe (belgium specifically) cheaply.
It's for some vitamin D and fish oil. No site seems to get close to iherb's prices.
I'd take a look at http://www.bodyenfitshop.nl/ It's a really good site and I think they ship to Belgium as well.
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Shoes
Ok so that was really quick, my lifting shoes came this morning. I was on day B of SL today, and squats at the start with them felt great. So much better. I did more sets than I should to mess around with trainers, bare feet, tiny plates under heels as well as my new shoes, but I'm on a low weight because of knee anyway.
Even though I'm doing low bar squats now the Oly shoes felt a lot better, I can't quite say what but my knees felt solid and my back felt stronger. I'm entirely willing to accept that this might be placebo though so it's really hard to tell, but my form was better with them. (Screw you brain and ruining my judgement, e.g. + Show Spoiler +). I still want to see a video of me wearing shoes and barefoot and other options though.
Low Bar Squat
Also, with my low bar squat I seem to put the bar a lot lower than Mehdi has it in his picture:
![[image loading]](http://cdn.stronglifts.com/wp-content/uploads/squat-bar-position.jpg)
My hands are a good bit wider apart for a start, and the bar is maybe an inch or two lower. Not sure if this is an issue, google isn't that helpful.
Also it seems to be all in my lower back. I was at 110kg today which is a lot less than I was doing with high bar, and I expected less in the quads and didn't feel anything really, but felt all the effort in my lower back. Is this normal? An issue is that I've also stopped using the belt, so it may well be a mixture of the two...
Snatch
I was not going to do any snatching until I my shoulders become flexible enough to do a full, deep overhead squat. I still can't do this, but I was just too tempted. I followed the instructions I'd learnt from some california strength videos and it was really fun. I stuck to just the bar, then put 5kg each end. It's hard but it's something I'm going to persist with, feels productive. Some questions about snatching though:
1. Where should the bar in the stage where it's going up my body and over my head? I didn't pay any attention to this when I did it, it was at my hips then went up and was over my head and I have no idea what happened. Should it be close to my body or far away, or can I just ignore it?
2. Twice I just pulled the bar up and smacked it into my bladder area. Did I just not kind of thrust it forwards early enough?
3. I followed california strength advice and had my hands wide enough apart so that it sits at the right place, but my hands were right at the end of the bar... most of it was off the gnarled grippy bit and holding onto the smooth area. It's a proper full size bar, but placing my hands any narrower put the bar onto the top of my quads and out of the crevice or whatever it would be called. Am I being retarded here?
Protein
Looked for info in general nutritional recommendations and didn't see any. What should I be looking for in a protein shake, just protein? The reason I ask is there have been a lot of myprotein.com adverts on TL for me, and it's all cheaper than the stuff I've been using. I don't know how to assess protein shake quality other than protein mass/pound sterling. Do I need to look at BCAA content? I have some creatine which I've never used much of, just stick some in my shake every now and then.
I did attempt to research this but google gives a big spread of answers and it's difficult to discern what is bullshit. I have come to trust TL H&F.
Long post. So I added sections. Thanks.
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On March 19 2012 23:33 Zafrumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 22:46 funkie wrote:
omfg man..that sexy boom at the end!
btw.
"It doesn't matter how slow you go, as long as you don't stop." damn right a rep is a rep! Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 23:26 sJarl wrote:
Great job Zafrumi! Didn't even look that hard. Fast all the way except for the small shaky part lol. cheers mate! what do you think the problem was there? I had the same issue on my failed 190kgx2 attempt. bad lockout? weak quads?
I'm not really sure tbh. The shakes usually come when you are starting out and you are weak but that is not the case here.
The start was fast and the lockout even faster so I don't see a problem. Maybe there is some lack of glute activation but I'm not sure.
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On March 19 2012 23:33 Zafrumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 23:26 sJarl wrote:
Great job Zafrumi! Didn't even look that hard. Fast all the way except for the small shaky part lol. cheers mate! what do you think the problem was there? I had the same issue on my failed 190kgx2 attempt. bad lockout? weak quads?
Compared to my lifts those are speed deadlifts  .
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@ Zafrumi
Congrats
@ Deadeight
Powerlifting shoes are just Oly lifting shoes with more ankle support. Oly ones are obv fine for both.
Barbell is fine on that picture
Today session:
Squat: 160kgx4x3, 200kg 10 sec hold, 215kg 10 sec hold.
Today is the last week of smolov, and today is taper (think light) easy day before going for PR on saturday. Added the powerlifting gear (belt + wraps) so squats where a lot easier, but its so fucking painful. The belt rips trough my bell and the skin behind my knee is red from the wrap pressure.
Also, holding 215kg on my back feels like having a bus over you -.-
Doesn't matter, if I can Squat anything above 190kg @ 78 bw its a fucking amazing achievement. Can't wait for it.
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Moving again. In the process of looking for a new gym. Anyone live in or near Scranton/Wilkes-Barre PA that knows a good place? I'd love to get myself into one of the colleges so I can use their gym but until then I gotta do what i can.
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What cues do you guys use when squatting if your knees sometimes go inwards?
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Keep pressure on the outer edge of your feet.
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