On August 31 2013 02:44 micronesia wrote: Mattes I basically just went from couch potato to a 30 minute 5k over the past three months, so it definitely can be done barring any unusual health problems!.
Thats really encouraging to hear.
Just got done with day2 of the same interval, went pretty good - got a better ratio than on the first day - still think that my breathing is really wrong, are there general tips how to approach that as someone who never really thought about it?
What do you mean by wrong?
There really isn't wrong or right breathing while running. You should naturally breathe through both nose and mouth. Breathing will get faster and deeper the harder you are going. Not much else to it besides that.
On August 31 2013 02:44 micronesia wrote: Mattes I basically just went from couch potato to a 30 minute 5k over the past three months, so it definitely can be done barring any unusual health problems!.
Thats really encouraging to hear.
Just got done with day2 of the same interval, went pretty good - got a better ratio than on the first day - still think that my breathing is really wrong, are there general tips how to approach that as someone who never really thought about it?
What do you mean by wrong?
There really isn't wrong or right breathing while running. You should naturally breathe through both nose and mouth. Breathing will get faster and deeper the harder you are going. Not much else to it besides that.
I guess i'm just running way to hard for a beginner.
As for the breathing, i read about nose breathing, mouth breathing, do whatever you want, belly-breathing being better etc.pp. I'm probably thinking far too much about it (even while jogging). I've never had any endurance, and running for more than a couple minutes i literally impossible for me - mostly due to being so immensely out of breath - but like i said, i'm probably way too fast.
But oh well, i will try to do it slower for the next session of my c25k-plan.
running for more than a couple minutes i literally impossible for me
At what pace are you running?
Try setting the treadmill to 5.0, or taking 3 minutes per lap on the track and tell me if you are still having trouble running for a couple minutes. I expect you won't unless you are really overweight.
i read about nose breathing, mouth breathing, do whatever you want, belly-breathing being better etc.pp. I'm probably thinking far too much about it (even while jogging).
Yes, you are. Just do whatever is natural, your body knows how to get oxygen! For most people this is going to be a combination of mouth and nose, as that allows for more air than one of the other. What the belly breathing means is that you aren't forcing yourself to take in shallow, small, chest breathes.
I just recently started ( a month and some ago) running and I just need some random advice. At first i was using the addidas climacool shoes to run an increasing weekly ABABAC regimen. My hips/knees/ankle area would hurt intensely. I switched to another shoe ... a saucony, the shoe guy said this shoe's for distance running. er... my questions i guess would be : is it better to run in the morning after waking up or at night before sleeping? I currently run at late hours before sleeping, 3 or 4 AM. how much mileage can a shoe handle before i get joint pain again? how long should a break last for before i start losing my capabilities to run? haha or having to start at a lower mile for my regimen. Thanks for answering anything if you can!
I'm up to week 3 of c25k and still feeling great. 3mins of running is a struggle, especially from someone who's max "runs" consisted of 10yd sprints but I'm liking it regardless.
On September 03 2013 14:27 WakanakaTaka wrote: is it better to run in the morning after waking up or at night before sleeping?
It's best to run whenever you feel best and whatever fits in to your schedule best. Some people thrive on morning runs, others like myself feel like crap on 98% of morning runs and prefer to run afternoon or evening.
On September 03 2013 14:27 WakanakaTaka wrote: how much mileage can a shoe handle before i get joint pain again?
General rule of thumb is that a shoe starts to lose it's structure and cushioning around 400-600 miles. Probably more like 250 for a lightweight racing flat.
Whether not you have to actually get new shoes at those mileages depends on how injury prone you are. I've put 2,500+ miles on shoes before.
On September 03 2013 14:27 WakanakaTaka wrote: how long should a break last for before i start losing my capabilities to run? haha or having to start at a lower mile for my regimen.
A week off and you lose essentially nothing. 2-4 weeks off you might not feel 100% the day you jump back in, but within a week or two you'll feel back to where you where.
Several months off is where you really notice it, and would probably want to build back some mileage, maybe starting at 50-75% of where you were. Again, depends alot on how injury prone you are, some people could certainly take 4 months off and jump right back in at the 80mpw they were doing.
Close to a year or more off and you will have lost most of your fitness and would want to start fairly fresh. The fitness will come back faster the second time around though (provided you aren't over 40 give or take).
On September 03 2013 15:50 miicah wrote: I'm up to week 3 of c25k and still feeling great. 3mins of running is a struggle, especially from someone who's max "runs" consisted of 10yd sprints but I'm liking it regardless.
How far/fast are you running during those 3 min running portions? Restrict it to 5.0 if you are on a treadmill, or no more than a quarter mile if you are outside, and I bet those run portions will feel ALOT better.
I'm really happy I made it under 30:00 on a 5K today for the first time. (Even though Strava didn't recognize the PR.)
I'm also really happy now that I've realized that I've been running 5K's regularly in the morning like it's no big deal, even though running a single 5K was absolutely unthinkable to me just recently.
On September 04 2013 06:39 GrandInquisitor wrote: Ha, I was thinking that last time I posted in this topic.
Do you have a specific goal in mind? I'm targeting a 10K next month.
Basically I need to be able to do 1.5 miles in less than 10:52. I don't have any need to run farther than 5k in one session, and don't plan on working on it.
On September 04 2013 06:39 GrandInquisitor wrote: Ha, I was thinking that last time I posted in this topic.
Do you have a specific goal in mind? I'm targeting a 10K next month.
Basically I need to be able to do 1.5 miles in less than 10:52. I don't have any need to run farther than 5k in one session, and don't plan on working on it.
While there is no need to go further than 5k in one session, obviously running further (i.e. more mileage), will make you faster. You're probably well aware of this though, given that you are a regular to this thread
For someone who only really runs on the treadmill @ the gym 4 times a week and sometimes outdoors for a mile or two?
You should always try a shoe (at a store) before buying it imo. You can get away with ordering online if you know and use the model or the series before. We don't know if you have any stability issues, what shoe you're sporting now, what your running-style is. Good advice can only be given if someone sees you running in person.
After a 3-4 day break to give my leg a chance to feel better, I went jogging on the treadmill again today. I dialed it back a couple of tenths of a mile per hour, put did my usual 30 minutes. About 25 minutes in I started to get the same problem at the top-front of my right thigh. Afterwards, I spoke to a trainer who said from the sound of it I pulled my hip flexor. My 5k is this Sunday.
I am not sure what to do as pretty much anything involving your legs involves your hip flexor. I have nothing scheduled this week... should I just stay home and do nothing for another few days? I've been nursing this problem for like a week and a half now.
edit: I don't think I conveyed it in this post originally, but I am getting very frustrated.
On September 04 2013 11:52 micronesia wrote: After a 3-4 day break to give my leg a chance to feel better, I went jogging on the treadmill again today. I dialed it back a couple of tenths of a mile per hour, put did my usual 30 minutes. About 25 minutes in I started to get the same problem at the top-front of my right thigh. Afterwards, I spoke to a trainer who said from the sound of it I pulled my hip flexor. My 5k is this Sunday.
I am not sure what to do as pretty much anything involving your legs involves your hip flexor. I have nothing scheduled this week... should I just stay home and do nothing for another few days? I've been nursing this problem for like a week and a half now.
edit: I don't think I conveyed it in this post originally, but I am getting very frustrated.
Imagine 10 months of this shit.
Anyway, I would just stay the fuck away from it. Experience (and reading) has taught me you don't mess around with the hip and groin, especially since your pain comes on and increases with exercise. If you can cycle or elliptical pain free go for it, if not rest.
Tried searching this thread but could not find anything doing a quick search.
Anyone here doing sprint training with the only goal of increasing top speed/decreasing time on distances 100m and below. I love sprinting and have some talent for it as I am faster than anyone I've ran against yet in my sport (Ultimate). (Obviously I'm probably slower than most serious amateur sprinters doing athetics)
I would love to discuss technique and ways to train this with anyone with a similar interest
gl hf SixSongs, I hope it's not too hot. Any time you want to finish at?
On September 05 2013 22:11 Ota Solgryn wrote: Tried searching this thread but could not find anything doing a quick search.
Anyone here doing sprint training with the only goal of increasing top speed/decreasing time on distances 100m and below. I love sprinting and have some talent for it as I am faster than anyone I've ran against yet in my sport (Ultimate). (Obviously I'm probably slower than most serious amateur sprinters doing athetics)
I would love to discuss technique and ways to train this with anyone with a similar interest
I remember one guy asking about sprinting a while back but most people here are distance runners. I can't give you any good advice on sprinting either. I'm slow as fuck.
So, I'm preparing for my HM at the end of october. I just finished the 5th run in 7 days and felt shitty for the first time today. I accumulated 65k which is the most I have ever run in my life. One of the runs was about 18,5km long and I didn't feel too tired. I'm going to run a 10k race next sunday to check my current form and determine what time I'm going to target at the HM. I'm hopeful to run sub 45min at the 10k.
I have a couple of questions about the next weeks leading up to the HM though:
1. How long should my LSD runs be? I ran the 18,5k comfortably in 1:40. 2. I haven't worked at my speed at all the last two months. I plan to squeeze in some interval workouts at the track to get accustomed to the race speed. I used to run 400m/200m or 1000m/400m intervals. Should I increase the distance to say 2k/1k intervals? 3. I didn't drink when I ran my first HM a year ago and I'm not drinking at 10k races. But I feel that I should drink at my LSD runs and it would help at the race, too, I guess. I'm not quite sure how to approach this as I expect my stomach to rebel. I'm not even sure what the question is here. I think I have to carry a small bottle of water at a tempo run and see how it goes. 4. Do I need to eat at a HM? I didn't need to last year but I will run way faster this time. I'm not really hungry at my LSD runs but get really hungry shortly after.
On September 05 2013 22:11 Ota Solgryn wrote: Tried searching this thread but could not find anything doing a quick search.
Anyone here doing sprint training with the only goal of increasing top speed/decreasing time on distances 100m and below. I love sprinting and have some talent for it as I am faster than anyone I've ran against yet in my sport (Ultimate). (Obviously I'm probably slower than most serious amateur sprinters doing athetics)
I would love to discuss technique and ways to train this with anyone with a similar interest
You want to get buff (especially in the legs) to be able to accelerate really fast. Do exercises that train explosiveness and max strength like squats, dead lifts, and various types of jumps for max height and/or distance. If you have a medicine ball you can do some fun stuff with throwing it too.
Practice acceleration by doing very short sprints with long rest in between them. These can be done starting on your stomach to train explosiveness. Also do sprints up hills.
For technique, most of the general distance running rules apply to sprinting as well. Check out these videos, I like this guy.
This one is more track specific but there's still good info in it.
Check this one out too. He does a good job of explaining turnover around 4:20.
i really cant see how so many people in here regularly run on treadmills, nothing kills me more than the thought of climbing on a treadmill, it removes the beauty of running, even in cities, it is possible to find somewhere a little bit more out there(a nice park or just a little a path out of town if it isnt too big of a city), it removes the possibility for adventure, it removes the chance to go abit further not because you want to push your body, but because you genuinely have no idea whats at the top of this hill and you would like to find out. For me the greatest joys in running come from when i head out in a new direction or when i find my way around an area on a run, i feel like i get a great understanding and joy from the experience and to those people who are on the treadmill always, get outthere, even if its just to a local park, take the opportunity to take your shoes off and run bare foot, Earth feels so good under toe and anyone who hasnt discovered running outside in downpour has not discovered the joy of running, people will think your fucking crazy and they will be right but its so liberating.
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