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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 03 2012 14:07 GMT
#161
On January 03 2012 09:28 Froadac wrote:
OK... Let me get a picture of neck scarring. I"m not sure what is going on there, because it keeps looking worse and its been like 2 and a half years, but I'll start rubbing back more, where those symptoms are most problematic (although when doing weightlifting a lot of it broke up !)


Yeah, don't do the massage stuff if it's growing abit

Talk to your doc about that
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
January 12 2012 15:16 GMT
#162
So I feel kinda bad to ask here because everything is already answered somewhere in those tons of informations given and probably has been asked before.

But after reading (and rereading) a ton of stuff I kinda start to overthink it by now. At least for the state I am in. I really don't want to count calories and stuff, as I not want to go into bodybuilding or professional, just to get healthier

The real food approach seems pretty logical (paleo seems pretty much the same, just a little bit more strict, right?).

I don't really need to lose much fat, I mean some wouldn't hurt I guess but I really just want to get healthier.

As far as I understand it every meal should have some sort of animal product (egg, meat etc.) and vegetables. Now I "started" yesterday and ate chicken breast with tomatoes and white mushrooms as dinner. Suprisingly it was good and also enough without the pasta. But then again there is this talk about carbs and starchy vegetables. Is there some rule of thumb like some kind of root vegetable (potatoe, carrot, onion(?)) each meal or is it fine as long as I mix vegetables regularly.

Also about breakfast. I'm not really the breakfast guy anyway so I often skip it entirely. Like just a banana or an apple. Tho egg (sometimes + bacon) with some raw vegetables doesn't sound so bad either.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
January 12 2012 15:40 GMT
#163
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Theres no rule about eating a root every meal, just eat some fruits for carbs. Or a sweet potatoe.
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
January 12 2012 15:44 GMT
#164
On January 13 2012 00:16 Keniji wrote:
So I feel kinda bad to ask here because everything is already answered somewhere in those tons of informations given and probably has been asked before.

But after reading (and rereading) a ton of stuff I kinda start to overthink it by now. At least for the state I am in. I really don't want to count calories and stuff, as I not want to go into bodybuilding or professional, just to get healthier

The real food approach seems pretty logical (paleo seems pretty much the same, just a little bit more strict, right?).

I don't really need to lose much fat, I mean some wouldn't hurt I guess but I really just want to get healthier.

As far as I understand it every meal should have some sort of animal product (egg, meat etc.) and vegetables. Now I "started" yesterday and ate chicken breast with tomatoes and white mushrooms as dinner. Suprisingly it was good and also enough without the pasta. But then again there is this talk about carbs and starchy vegetables. Is there some rule of thumb like some kind of root vegetable (potatoe, carrot, onion(?)) each meal or is it fine as long as I mix vegetables regularly.

Also about breakfast. I'm not really the breakfast guy anyway so I often skip it entirely. Like just a banana or an apple. Tho egg (sometimes + bacon) with some raw vegetables doesn't sound so bad either.

You don't have to have vegetables with every or even most meals. Their nutritional value is pretty overrated (IMO) but certainly eat as much as you like if you enjoy the taste.

Sweet potatoes/starchy root vegetables are fine if you like them but you don't have to eat them. Just don't go overboard because they are calorically dense. Onions are low calorie so they just count as a regular vegetable and not a starch.

Some things to consider are that since you're not eating all the cereal, bread, etc., you need to substitute in other calories to keep your total reasonable. This typically means more fat, so don't be afraid of fattier cuts of meat (preferably from grass-fed animals) and cooking things in butter or coconut oil. If you just eat chicken breast and vegetables all the time you will have a very difficult time getting enough calories. Healthy fats are really good for you--avoid vegetable, seed and nut oils.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:39:14
January 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#165
i bought a proper frying pan/pot for £19 , its amazing, love it to bits *fries veg till its black*

Q: im just here double-checking that coconut oil is the best cooking oil to use (rather than virgin or extra virgin olive oil)?

think thats all for now..

oh, important thing, i need to find out which fish oil is best. it mighta already be covered in the threads somewhere, havent had a chance to look yet. i cant swallow the standard fish oil capsules (too large for me... ) . and everything has such varying levels of components i didnt just buy whatever (expensive too)
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
January 13 2012 22:09 GMT
#166
Ugh my stomach has been bothering me again this week. The only thing that really changed in my diet was that I added rice so I'll probably just throw that out again and see if it gets better.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 13 2012 22:54 GMT
#167
if youre drinking a lot of milk maybe thats catching up with you a bit
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 14 2012 01:15 GMT
#168
On January 14 2012 05:34 FFGenerations wrote:
i bought a proper frying pan/pot for £19 , its amazing, love it to bits *fries veg till its black*

Q: im just here double-checking that coconut oil is the best cooking oil to use (rather than virgin or extra virgin olive oil)?

think thats all for now..

oh, important thing, i need to find out which fish oil is best. it mighta already be covered in the threads somewhere, havent had a chance to look yet. i cant swallow the standard fish oil capsules (too large for me... ) . and everything has such varying levels of components i didnt just buy whatever (expensive too)

Yep. Coconut oil ftw. Butter/lard also work too.

Carlson's is generally good. I use one off iherb that's cheap and hasn't given me problems before but Carlson's is usually the go to for quality (though costs a bit more)
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 14 2012 08:27 GMT
#169
hrm lol i think i use too much of it , like 200ml per fry-up :o
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 09:22:37
January 14 2012 09:21 GMT
#170
On January 14 2012 07:54 FFGenerations wrote:
if youre drinking a lot of milk maybe thats catching up with you a bit

I've done GOMAD before without problems and I'm drinking a lot less milk now so I don't think that's it. This feels like the same cramps I get from pasta and bread so my guess is it's the rice as I haven't eaten that in a long time.

And I can also vouch for coconut oil, besides the health benefits it's also really easy to cook with.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 13:49:15
January 14 2012 13:45 GMT
#171
help, everything i eat is killing me

http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/health-fitness/27185-foods-you-shouldn-t-eat-raw.html

im wondering how well you need to cook your vegetables. atm i fry them a bit, they go a bit black and are crunchy still. i eat brocooli colliflower cabbage carrot blah blah.

but my sister said you need to cook vegetables properly to maybe break down their cell wall otherwise we dont get anything out of them. (but if you cook them too much then you dont get anything either)

she also said raw potato is poisonous (not that i would ever eat that anyway)

i done a quick google and someone said poorly cooked aubogine/courgette is dangerous/poisonous, someone else said poorly cooked broccolli/colliflower will give you thyroid problems, someone else is saying you have to be a maniac to eat any sort of potato.......... geez........


tldr, i eat half-burnt/half-uncooked crunchy brocolli, colliflower + brussel sprouts very often. should i change this?
(i fry veg quickly in a big frying pan with a bit of oil)
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Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
January 14 2012 19:52 GMT
#172
Not sure if this goes here or in another thread in this section, since it ties in, but here goes:

Whenever I work out now, I find myself running low on energy before my work out is even halfway done. What would you guys recommend 1 hour before heading off to exercise for energy? I will not use energy boosters (cause I find that after I run out, I can't do anything at all) and have limited access to protein shakes at the moment. So something homemade/organic, basically.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
January 14 2012 20:05 GMT
#173
Coffee.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 20:31:47
January 14 2012 20:31 GMT
#174
I have a lot of chicken breast. How should I prepare it?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 14 2012 21:06 GMT
#175
fry/heat it , add tinned carrots (squishy/baby/chopped), add paprika / chicken paprika herb mix
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
January 14 2012 21:11 GMT
#176
I prefer the grill or crockpot
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 14 2012 21:16 GMT
#177
On January 15 2012 06:11 decafchicken wrote:
I prefer the grill or crockpot

Any specifics?
bobblify
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland46 Posts
January 14 2012 21:29 GMT
#178
Great thread you've put up in here eshlow, only recently found out about it!

I myself have been "doing" leangains for about 2 months (just the skipping the breakfast -part, nothing else lol), and 2 weeks ago I actually decided to dive all in (start tracking my nutrition, began weight training). Well, as it turned out, my nutrition was pretty awful until the tracking began. So now I've been reading on leangains and rippedbody.jp and moved towards a hopefully better future

Anywhoo, I still have a bit of a question. And it's about fat. Mainly about the amount of fat during training days. So far from what I've gathered, the only thing most reliable-seeming sources agree on is that the fat should be kept "low". But how low is low? Some people recommend a 75/25 split between carbs/fats (after the protein is counted for), while others recommend a strict number (like 30g). Obviously, there's a decently sized difference between the two when your total calories go above 3k kcal, so I'm wondering what's your take on this?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 14 2012 22:12 GMT
#179
On January 15 2012 06:29 bobblify wrote:
Great thread you've put up in here eshlow, only recently found out about it!

I myself have been "doing" leangains for about 2 months (just the skipping the breakfast -part, nothing else lol), and 2 weeks ago I actually decided to dive all in (start tracking my nutrition, began weight training). Well, as it turned out, my nutrition was pretty awful until the tracking began. So now I've been reading on leangains and rippedbody.jp and moved towards a hopefully better future

Anywhoo, I still have a bit of a question. And it's about fat. Mainly about the amount of fat during training days. So far from what I've gathered, the only thing most reliable-seeming sources agree on is that the fat should be kept "low". But how low is low? Some people recommend a 75/25 split between carbs/fats (after the protein is counted for), while others recommend a strict number (like 30g). Obviously, there's a decently sized difference between the two when your total calories go above 3k kcal, so I'm wondering what's your take on this?


What are your goals?
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
January 14 2012 23:05 GMT
#180
On January 15 2012 06:16 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 06:11 decafchicken wrote:
I prefer the grill or crockpot

Any specifics?


I'll either just grill it up with some seasoning or put a bunch of chicken breast in the crock pot and cover them in tomato sauce. ez chicken parmesan. just google some recipes.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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