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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 17 2011 06:32 GMT
#1661
stay tighter on the dip of he jerk!! good job decaf :D
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
February 17 2011 07:26 GMT
#1662
On February 17 2011 13:41 Slithe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 11:54 vicariouscheese wrote:
On February 17 2011 06:15 funkie wrote:
IS THIS A DREAM I'M HAVING?

NO.

IT'S THE TL.NET HEALTH AND FITNESS INITIATIVE THREAD GOING FUCKING INSANE.

FUCK SI.


dammit funkie

your posts make me even more depressed that I cant lift for like a month


What's stopping you? Are you nursing an injury?

In any case, if you're not lifting, then it's a good opportunity to do some prehab work. It'll help make your body really bulletproof once you do start to lifting again. There's a lot of potential injury points in the body, like the shoulders and its various ligaments, that could do with some strengthening.


yeah threw out my back :/
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
February 17 2011 07:54 GMT
#1663
ffffuuuuckkk powerclean down from 90kg to 85kg now that im cutting =(
man fuck cutting i hate it

decaf: damn nice 135kg c&j 0_0
do you use hook grip for your oly lifts?
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 17 2011 10:28 GMT
#1664
On February 17 2011 09:48 decafchicken wrote:
Clean and jerked 135kg (297lbs)

[image loading]

NBD

Started getting a much more solid grip on the bar before the jerk like half way through my workout vs just driving off my shoulders + fingers

Thats like my 3rd one with it, kinda shitty jerk but glad i have the flexibility to grip it like that now. Didn't really have any intention on maxing out today, did light snatches and then got 110 like 7 times, then 120 like 5 times, then 125 twice, 130 twice, and 135 once. My clean just feels automatic up till 120-125, dont even feel like i need to try/think i just pick the bar up and then its there. Still needs a bit of work though. Also got a girl to basically put her elbow + all her weight into the parts of my back/shoulder that have been sore...felt AWESOME


Damn bro! Good stuff. How did you get your wrists so supple?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 17 2011 14:47 GMT
#1665
I'm pretty sure I pulled my back/lats yesterday doing DL, fuck T_T
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 17 2011 14:49 GMT
#1666
And that was pretty beastly Decaf!

Also, I feel that it's taking me longer to recover now that I am cutting, that's normal right? I can push myself really hard doing squats on Mondays and Fridays only, my legs are just too sore on Wednesdays, so I drop 20 or 30%.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 17 2011 15:08 GMT
#1667
I think I hate my gym.

Here I am, doing the great shit, PowerCleans and Cleans, good form and all that. and I can't drop the weight, I have to "lower it down slowly".

I need one of those thingies where you can drop the living shit out of the weight and feel LIKE A BOSS.

Yesterday was really good :D. 94kg Squat (soon hitting 100kg, and then 110kg, ez ez !)
62kg Power Clean (+2kg from last session)
44kg Clean (+4kg from last session, good form and felt awesome).

I'm sore as fuck, but I love it, it's like a complete body reminder of "You're doing awesome shit, funko!".

Edit: one of the "big" guys at the gym, he says that the "routine" i'm doing isn't working anymore for me. And that got me thinkin, I'm still increasing my lifts, steadily and stuff, should I change to advance Novice program, or should I stick to SS still for another month or so?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 17 2011 16:07 GMT
#1668
Sounds like it's working to me if your lifts are still going up. Isn't the general guideline to move to the next program after you have to reset 3 times?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 17:06:25
February 17 2011 16:45 GMT
#1669
Yeah, the wiki says after 3 resets you aren't getting as much as you should from the program anymore. Sometimes that works out strangely though. I've stalled four times between 135 and 140 on my bench, but my squat has only come close to stalling once, and my deadlift is only limited by grip. So im changing the routine a bit, working more upper body (dips, chins, tricep work, db bench, flyes, more ohp, or more rest, all -occasionally-) to supplement my weak points. Since adding these, my bench is going up again. There are several places in the book and the wiki that imply SS as a learning routine, and once you figure some things out about your own body, its ok to make changes. You've already added full cleans because you know you can handle them. Maybe if your progress slows down there are things like that you can do, but maybe its not yet necessary.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
February 17 2011 16:53 GMT
#1670
Starting Strength wiki lets you know when you should finish:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Stalling.2C_Resetting_and_Progressing

Especially this:

Generally only 2 resets for the squat and perhaps 1 for the deadlift will be done before it's time to move on. As long as these 2 exercises are still moving up, however, there is no need to change programming. If you need to do a "bigtime reset" as described above, or if you are stalling on multiple exercises at once, then it is time to move on as well.

Don't reset if you've only stalled in the press, bench, or powerclean. As long as your deadlift, and especially your squat, are moving up you are making progress. Stick with it.


So basically you're not done, although you might not be showing as much progress in your body as you used to simply because you're at the tail end of your novice gains.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 17 2011 17:20 GMT
#1671
If you're progressing why are you going to change up what you're doing
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
frawress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States22 Posts
February 17 2011 17:21 GMT
#1672
Today's Workout:

Squat
20x1x5
30x1x5
40x1x5
45x1x0.5 (LOL)
40x2x5

Bench Press
45x2x5
55x1x5
60x1x5
65x3x5

Getting used to the form on squat but still having difficulties with the 45lb bar and I think its just a balance/shoulder flexibility issue. I'm working on it though.

Bench Press is getting much better and the form is coming more naturally to me.

Feels good :D!
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
February 17 2011 17:36 GMT
#1673
On February 18 2011 02:21 frawress wrote:
Today's Workout:

Squat
20x1x5
30x1x5
40x1x5
45x1x0.5 (LOL)
40x2x5

Bench Press
45x2x5
55x1x5
60x1x5
65x3x5

Getting used to the form on squat but still having difficulties with the 45lb bar and I think its just a balance/shoulder flexibility issue. I'm working on it though.

Bench Press is getting much better and the form is coming more naturally to me.

Feels good :D!


For balance, what kind of shoes are you using?

Have you checked out the cal strength vids on shoulder flexibility?

How are you doing those weights btw, just holding up dumbbells?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 17 2011 17:53 GMT
#1674
Good article from Rippetoe on tnation

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/a_cold_slap_in_the_newbie_face_recover_more_grow_more
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 17 2011 18:14 GMT
#1675
On February 17 2011 15:32 AoN.DimSum wrote:
stay tighter on the dip of he jerk!! good job decaf :D

Yeah I think i dip too low and need to explode more.

On February 17 2011 16:54 pyrogenetix wrote:
ffffuuuuckkk powerclean down from 90kg to 85kg now that im cutting =(
man fuck cutting i hate it

decaf: damn nice 135kg c&j 0_0
do you use hook grip for your oly lifts?


Yeah been using hook grip since probably december. Takes a little to get used to it but its fucking rock solid.

On February 17 2011 19:28 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 09:48 decafchicken wrote:
Clean and jerked 135kg (297lbs)

[image loading]

NBD

Started getting a much more solid grip on the bar before the jerk like half way through my workout vs just driving off my shoulders + fingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPKTxq2Lmk
Thats like my 3rd one with it, kinda shitty jerk but glad i have the flexibility to grip it like that now. Didn't really have any intention on maxing out today, did light snatches and then got 110 like 7 times, then 120 like 5 times, then 125 twice, 130 twice, and 135 once. My clean just feels automatic up till 120-125, dont even feel like i need to try/think i just pick the bar up and then its there. Still needs a bit of work though. Also got a girl to basically put her elbow + all her weight into the parts of my back/shoulder that have been sore...felt AWESOME


Damn bro! Good stuff. How did you get your wrists so supple?


haha they're not..my left one is still not 100% from being sprained in the summer but i keep lifting on it lol. I didnt think i'd be able to hold the bar like that and still have it racked, but i just tried it and turns out i can now :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 18:54:04
February 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#1676
On February 18 2011 01:45 phyre112 wrote:
Yeah, the wiki says after 3 resets you aren't getting as much as you should from the program anymore. Sometimes that works out strangely though. I've stalled four times between 135 and 140 on my bench, but my squat has only come close to stalling once, and my deadlift is only limited by grip. So im changing the routine a bit, working more upper body (dips, chins, tricep work, db bench, flyes, more ohp, or more rest, all -occasionally-) to supplement my weak points. Since adding these, my bench is going up again. There are several places in the book and the wiki that imply SS as a learning routine, and once you figure some things out about your own body, its ok to make changes. You've already added full cleans because you know you can handle them. Maybe if your progress slows down there are things like that you can do, but maybe its not yet necessary.


its completely normal to reset your bp, press and power clean more often than your squat dead lift. I think the program is "over" when you reset three times on your deadlift or squat, not on any other lifts.

I've been forced to use the smith machine for squatting and benching for the last week. it was aweful luckily I will get my squat rack back on saturday!

great link eshlow here is something we should all think about!

Razor abs on a skinny guy are like really nice clothes on a fat girl. Better for her to spend the money on quality diet and exercise advice, and better for you to get your squat up to 405 before you start timing your macronutrients and really "dialing in" your physique.


I know I've been tempted several times to get on a strict diet again to lose my belly (currently weighing 82kg/181lbs at 177cm/5'10''). But its probably better to eat a lot and do SS as long as I can and then start cutting in the spring/summer
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 17 2011 18:45 GMT
#1677
On February 18 2011 03:14 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 15:32 AoN.DimSum wrote:
stay tighter on the dip of he jerk!! good job decaf :D

Yeah I think i dip too low and need to explode more.




Sorry I meant to say keep your same position when dipping. Your chest drops in the dip and your core seems to move around a bit. Keep your core tight and chest up.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
February 17 2011 18:51 GMT
#1678
happy birthday dimsum!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
frawress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States22 Posts
February 17 2011 18:56 GMT
#1679
On February 18 2011 02:36 vicariouscheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 18 2011 02:21 frawress wrote:
Today's Workout:

Squat
20x1x5
30x1x5
40x1x5
45x1x0.5 (LOL)
40x2x5

Bench Press
45x2x5
55x1x5
60x1x5
65x3x5

Getting used to the form on squat but still having difficulties with the 45lb bar and I think its just a balance/shoulder flexibility issue. I'm working on it though.

Bench Press is getting much better and the form is coming more naturally to me.

Feels good :D!


For balance, what kind of shoes are you using?

Have you checked out the cal strength vids on shoulder flexibility?

How are you doing those weights btw, just holding up dumbbells?


I'm just wearing my regular shoes which are more running shoes I think:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.famousfootwear.com/Shopping/ProductDetails.aspx?p=90864&pg=1020478

Yes I watched the videos and I bought a PVC pipe to work on flexibility.

My school rec center has a set of a barbells in increments of 10lbs starting at 20lbs. I was just using those to do the squats. The only difference being that they aren't as wide so I can't use the squat rack and it forces my hands to be further inward which is something I'm not doing with the larger bar.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 17 2011 18:56 GMT
#1680
On February 18 2011 03:45 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 03:14 decafchicken wrote:
On February 17 2011 15:32 AoN.DimSum wrote:
stay tighter on the dip of he jerk!! good job decaf :D

Yeah I think i dip too low and need to explode more.




Sorry I meant to say keep your same position when dipping. Your chest drops in the dip and your core seems to move around a bit. Keep your core tight and chest up.


Alright i'll work on that tomorrow. Happy (in TL time) birthday
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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