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inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
August 28 2011 06:42 GMT
#10561
I am ~205cm and 88.6kg this morning...no abs tho, need to workout longer and harder. I am light because i do a lot more cardio than normal lifters and builders.

currently i am at:

squat: 80kg 5x5
bp: 60kg 5x5
ohp: 40kg 5x5
deadlift: 110kg 5
powercleans: 60kg 3-3-3-3-3
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 28 2011 06:53 GMT
#10562
On August 28 2011 15:33 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 04:43 phyre112 wrote:
On August 28 2011 04:31 Malinor wrote:
On August 28 2011 04:27 phyre112 wrote:
On August 28 2011 03:58 Malinor wrote:
On August 28 2011 03:08 Tulius wrote:
On August 28 2011 02:23 phyre112 wrote:
On August 28 2011 02:07 Tulius wrote:
so I went to the gym and
set a new PR on front squats (expected since this is only the 2nd time I do them)
failed OHP for the 2nd time after a reset
did a deadlift with the same weight as last week, with good form
and 10 pullups.

by now my maxes look like this:
Back Squat: 56kg x5
Bench: 65kg x5
OHP: 42kg x5
DL: 88kg x5

(~3rd month on SS, before that I did those brograms with lot of emphasys on the upper body, that's why bench is higher than squat -_- - I'm 182 cm/68kg right now)
my question is: according to strength standarts my bench and OHP are a bit past "novice" level while squat and DL are closer to "untrained"
I'm having a lot of trouble to progress with Bench and OHP, but I'm sure I can still progress a lot on Squat and DLs (lack of a proper squat rack is holding me back, tho)
Should I change my program?


How's your power clean? Or are you doing rows instead? Being "finished" with as should be dictated by your squat and dead, and those numbers are still very low. If you wanted to add 3xf dips and chins at the end of the a&b workout respectively though, I don't think it would hurt you.

Program add is one othe biggest enemies of a novice lifter. Do what works.


oh I forgot to add that I'm not doing original SS, but practical programming novice program, so not doing PC but doing chin-ups/pull-ups instead (currently at 15 reps for chins, 10 for pulls, no weight added)
based on how I'm feeling I think that I'm not being able to progress in OHP and BP because my body isn't being able to recover fully before the next workout (I might be wrong here... but that's how it feels), so I don't know if adding more assistance stuff would help (unless I reduce the load for the main exercises, would that be good to get through a plateau?)


I am pretty sure that the Practical Programming Novice Program also incorporates Power Cleans. Last time I checked the SS-wiki, it was outlined wrong (in my opinion, but I checked against the book and I am pretty sure the wiki is wrong, Rippetoe is all about the Power Clean in all his Strength-Programs). It should be alternating Chins and Deadlift/Powerclean:

Chins
Deadlift
Chins
Power Clean
Chins
Deadlift
Chins
Power Clean
...

edit: I think it actually also alternates Chins and Pull-ups, but that distinction feels less important to me.

edit2: Just checked the book again, the correct programm looks like this:
+ Show Spoiler +

Squat Press Deadlift

Squat Bench Chins

Squat Press Powerclean

Squat Bench Pull-ups

Squat Press Deadlift

Squat Bench Chins

etc.

Adding Front Squats once a week (2nd workout, 5th, 8th, 11th...) instead of Back Squats makes it more complicated, you may have 4 weeks (12 workouts) until the same workout repeats itself.


Besides that, I don't know what your goals are, but 182cm at 68kg is just very skinny for this kind of programming. If you really want to progress in the squat and deadlift, you should probably consider adding 10-15 more kg to your frame (you can still cut most of it later). If you don't want to do that, progress will just come much slower to you, that's just how it is. Your numbers right now indicate that you have not nearly exhausted your progress on the program.




I definitely agree you could use some weight. I started weighing the same as you, but ~10 cm taller, and my squat and dead skyrocketed when I put on 15kg. I'm back to adding weight now too, so I hope I can repeat the process since my squat is definitely my weak point.


192cm at 68kg? Holy cow... at some point you need to start posting pictures or videos dude


Haha, I'm up from that. I was 145 lb/66kg when I started lifting, just over a year ago now. I've got a few pictures from the start of the summer, which was me @ 165 lb (75kg) and I'll take new pictures then post both sets when I reach my new goal date, the first of november where I hope to be 185 lb/84kg.


Have you considered bulking up a bit more?

I mean, I'm 190cm at 92kg, and it's becoming pretty clear that I'm too light for my height. Unfortunately my girlfriend likes me with abs, so GOMAD is out of the question, but I am trying to reach 95-96kg currently and seeing if that improves my lifts. For me, every kg I gain gives me like 5kgs on my max squat... it's insane.


I'm expecting to put on those extra 10 lbs before november first. At that point, I'll evaluate my next set of goals - Depending on how leangains goes until then, my goals at that point will probably be to add another 3-4kg in the two months before the new thread comes up. I don't expect to stop at 84kg by any means - I'll be more like 100kg before I'm happy with how much I weigh.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
August 28 2011 06:53 GMT
#10563
On August 28 2011 15:42 inimenesc wrote:
I am ~205cm and 88.6kg this morning...no abs tho, need to workout longer and harder. I am light because i do a lot more cardio than normal lifters and builders.

currently i am at:

squat: 80kg 5x5
bp: 60kg 5x5
ohp: 40kg 5x5
deadlift: 110kg 5
powercleans: 60kg 3-3-3-3-3


Yeah, being tall makes lifting heavy hard, but putting on some pounds negates that effect. At your height you'd have to be like 125kg to ever be a great squatter, which sucks.

Time to start drinking some Poundstone shakes :D.

Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 08:40:08
August 28 2011 08:39 GMT
#10564
Yesterday's competition was fucking awesome :-D Around 200 athletes in total competed. Awesome atmosphere with a pretty big crowding yelling and screaming at the athletes. Really good commentator as well.

So me and another guy and a girl competed in the team competition. A total of 30 teams competed.
First workout, which was pretty much pure cardio, went well and we were 5th going into the second workout.

The second workout was: 15 minutes to establish a max weight for this combo-lift (all 3 were to find their max in 15 min):
1 clean anyhow (I powered), 3 front squats, 1 overhead anyhow (I split jerked)
I haven't squatted in 4 months because of a knee injury, and so I had no idea if I had ANY strength in my legs anymore... started out at 80 kg. and got it up relatively easy... Felt good, so I put on 90 kg for my next attempt and got that up as well. Then 95 kg, and after 3 fucking hard front squats, I got that shit up overhead :-D Tried 100 kg for my last attempt - powercleaned it, front squatted it, but couldn't get it up.

We were then on second place going into the 3rd workout (half teams were cut from the competition here)

3rd workout, which was a powersnatch/snatch/overhead squat complex, didn't go so well because the girl on my team had problems with her snatch. But we were still tied for second place, which meant we were going to the final :-D!!!!

5 teams went to the final workout

Final workout was:
21 kettlebell (kb) swings (24 kg)
15 chest to bar pullups
9 overhead squat (24 kg kb)
21 deadlifts (100 kg)
15 handstand pushups
9 burpee pullups
overhead walking lunge (24 kg kb) to finish line

All three members had to complete one round. So first the other guy on my team completed his round. Then our girl started out. Went well UNTIL the handstand pushups... she was SO close to just give up in frustration after only having done like 4 after 5 minutes... in the end she kept trying though, and got through it. At this point we were FAR behind all other teams which had their guys going first and their girl finishing...
So I fucking ATTACK that workout!! Overtook the 4th team on the deadlifts and the 3 other teams on the handstand pushups :-D People were screaming like crazy, and it felt awesome being cheered on by the people from my crossfit box (we were the only team from my box left in the competition) :-D

So we actually end up winning the final, but because the team in the lead going into the final being so much ahead in the other workouts, we finished second. Still pretty fucking good considering their girl competed in the women's individual competition in the 2011 CrossFit Games :-)

Next time I will try and compete in the individual men's competition. Can't wait till next time!!

When someone starts posting pictures, I can put some up in this thread.
exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
August 28 2011 09:05 GMT
#10565
I am genuinely at a loss as to why this thread is called the Health & Fitness initiative. I would rename it the bulking up thread. There's more to fitness than the size of your muscles -.-
It is, in the end, whatever the Hell I want it to be, And when I'm through with it, it's gonna blow a hole, This wide, straight through the worlds own idea of itself. They're throwing bottles at your house. Come on, lets go break their arms.
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
August 28 2011 09:23 GMT
#10566
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!
exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 09:32:58
August 28 2011 09:32 GMT
#10567
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!

You're 16 you shouldn't be looking to bulk up. Just do general light weights and more cardio and you'll get fitter no worries.
It is, in the end, whatever the Hell I want it to be, And when I'm through with it, it's gonna blow a hole, This wide, straight through the worlds own idea of itself. They're throwing bottles at your house. Come on, lets go break their arms.
Magicbox
Profile Joined June 2004
Denmark73 Posts
August 28 2011 09:39 GMT
#10568
Hi all!

I remember I used to post a little in one of the old H & F threads. I have been lifting on and off for some time, but I have decided I'm going to get huge. I'm starting a 3split routine tomorrow. My hope is that by posting in this thread I will stay motivated.

I will get some pictures taken asap, so I can see how my progress is.

I have some secondary goals as well.

First is being able to do a hundrede push-ups by the end of the semester. The whole class is training after each schoolday in order to reach the goal.

Second is getting some running shoes, so I can start running. I don't have any specific distances in mind, I'm just trying to improve my cardiovascular health.

Third is getting back into mountainbike hiking (in forest and such) again.

Fourth and last goal is to start rowing, so we can compete properly at our schools yearly competition (maritime school).

I'm 180 cm and weigh ~80 kg at present.
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 10:03:24
August 28 2011 09:42 GMT
#10569
On August 28 2011 18:32 exShikari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!

You're 16 you shouldn't be looking to bulk up. Just do general light weights and more cardio and you'll get fitter no worries.


uh wtf.
he's asking how to achieve that goal, not asking for your opinion.

also:

On August 28 2011 18:05 exShikari wrote:
I am genuinely at a loss as to why this thread is called the Health & Fitness initiative. I would rename it the bulking up thread. There's more to fitness than the size of your muscles -.-


try it out, put on some muscles and gain some strength, see the effect it has on your body & health, then come back and say that.

On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!



I believe training weighted pullups is probably the best way to progress to your goal, eat well on your workout days and increase the weight linearily and you can make a lot of progress in a few weeks.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
August 28 2011 10:07 GMT
#10570
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!



Afaik doing pull-ups to failure is the best way to increase endurance and the max.
So do pull-ups to failure every morning and every evening.

You can always learn kipping and do them crossfit style, but i'm not sure if thats allowed, but that would result in a quick win probably.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 10:11:20
August 28 2011 10:09 GMT
#10571
On August 28 2011 18:42 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:32 exShikari wrote:
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!

You're 16 you shouldn't be looking to bulk up. Just do general light weights and more cardio and you'll get fitter no worries.


uh wtf.
he's asking how to achieve that goal, not asking for your opinion.

also:

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:05 exShikari wrote:
I am genuinely at a loss as to why this thread is called the Health & Fitness initiative. I would rename it the bulking up thread. There's more to fitness than the size of your muscles -.-


try it out, put on some muscles and gain some strength, see the effect it has on your body & health, then come back and say that.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!



I believe training weighted pullups is probably the best way to progress to your goal, eat well on your workout days and increase the weight linearily and you can make a lot of progress in a few weeks.

You'll notice I did tell him how to achieve that goal, whilst giving him some advice on how not to strain his body.

Also, I'm in excellent physical condition. Having a large frame in itself is not going to make you healthy. You need to have good core strength and solid joints before you start bulking up otherwise you're greatly increasing the likelihood of injury. I had to have a shoulder recon and guess what my post-op recovery started with? Cardio, cardio, cardio. Then light weights and core strength. Then after six months I was allowed to start bulking up again.

Edit: missed the last part section. Overloading your reps by 10% will work better than going linear.
It is, in the end, whatever the Hell I want it to be, And when I'm through with it, it's gonna blow a hole, This wide, straight through the worlds own idea of itself. They're throwing bottles at your house. Come on, lets go break their arms.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
August 28 2011 10:14 GMT
#10572
On August 28 2011 18:39 Magicbox wrote:
Hi all!

I remember I used to post a little in one of the old H & F threads. I have been lifting on and off for some time, but I have decided I'm going to get huge. I'm starting a 3split routine tomorrow. My hope is that by posting in this thread I will stay motivated.

I will get some pictures taken asap, so I can see how my progress is.

I have some secondary goals as well.

First is being able to do a hundrede push-ups by the end of the semester. The whole class is training after each schoolday in order to reach the goal.

Second is getting some running shoes, so I can start running. I don't have any specific distances in mind, I'm just trying to improve my cardiovascular health.

Third is getting back into mountainbike hiking (in forest and such) again.

Fourth and last goal is to start rowing, so we can compete properly at our schools yearly competition (maritime school).

I'm 180 cm and weigh ~80 kg at present.



What 3 split routine? How many days a week? In general it's advisable to do something other than the usual brosplit routine.

Post the pictures.

Well with all this cardio goals you have to eat a shitton to grow.

At that size and height you should be decently big already, if most of it is muscle that is.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
August 28 2011 10:21 GMT
#10573
On August 28 2011 19:09 exShikari wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 28 2011 18:42 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:32 exShikari wrote:
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!

You're 16 you shouldn't be looking to bulk up. Just do general light weights and more cardio and you'll get fitter no worries.


uh wtf.
he's asking how to achieve that goal, not asking for your opinion.

also:

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:05 exShikari wrote:
I am genuinely at a loss as to why this thread is called the Health & Fitness initiative. I would rename it the bulking up thread. There's more to fitness than the size of your muscles -.-


try it out, put on some muscles and gain some strength, see the effect it has on your body & health, then come back and say that.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!



I believe training weighted pullups is probably the best way to progress to your goal, eat well on your workout days and increase the weight linearily and you can make a lot of progress in a few weeks.

You'll notice I did tell him how to achieve that goal, whilst giving him some advice on how not to strain his body.

Also, I'm in excellent physical condition. Having a large frame in itself is not going to make you healthy. You need to have good core strength and solid joints before you start bulking up otherwise you're greatly increasing the likelihood of injury. I had to have a shoulder recon and guess what my post-op recovery started with? Cardio, cardio, cardio. Then light weights and core strength. Then after six months I was allowed to start bulking up again.

Edit: missed the last part section. Overloading your reps by 10% will work better than going linear.



You told him to do cardio and light weights? How is that going to help him reach his pull-up goal?
First of all you probably won't be getting huge with just doing pull-ups. So even if he's only 16 that shouldn't be a problem, i don't think he can do anything wrong with bodyweight exercises at that age. Loading big weights while growing might be a different case, but i don't have any knowledge about that so i can't really say. But i'm pretty sure in russia (or china) they lift from child.

Second i don't think you really can get too big if you stay natural, of course you should be doing cardio after a certain size is reached, but you probably won't get enough muscle to really overload your heart.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
August 28 2011 10:26 GMT
#10574
On August 28 2011 19:21 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 19:09 exShikari wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 28 2011 18:42 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:32 exShikari wrote:
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!

You're 16 you shouldn't be looking to bulk up. Just do general light weights and more cardio and you'll get fitter no worries.


uh wtf.
he's asking how to achieve that goal, not asking for your opinion.

also:

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:05 exShikari wrote:
I am genuinely at a loss as to why this thread is called the Health & Fitness initiative. I would rename it the bulking up thread. There's more to fitness than the size of your muscles -.-


try it out, put on some muscles and gain some strength, see the effect it has on your body & health, then come back and say that.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!



I believe training weighted pullups is probably the best way to progress to your goal, eat well on your workout days and increase the weight linearily and you can make a lot of progress in a few weeks.

You'll notice I did tell him how to achieve that goal, whilst giving him some advice on how not to strain his body.

Also, I'm in excellent physical condition. Having a large frame in itself is not going to make you healthy. You need to have good core strength and solid joints before you start bulking up otherwise you're greatly increasing the likelihood of injury. I had to have a shoulder recon and guess what my post-op recovery started with? Cardio, cardio, cardio. Then light weights and core strength. Then after six months I was allowed to start bulking up again.

Edit: missed the last part section. Overloading your reps by 10% will work better than going linear.



You told him to do cardio and light weights? How is that going to help him reach his pull-up goal?
First of all you probably won't be getting huge with just doing pull-ups. So even if he's only 16 that shouldn't be a problem, i don't think he can do anything wrong with bodyweight exercises at that age. Loading big weights while growing might be a different case, but i don't have any knowledge about that so i can't really say. But i'm pretty sure in russia (or china) they lift from child.

Second i don't think you really can get too big if you stay natural, of course you should be doing cardio after a certain size is reached, but you probably won't get enough muscle to really overload your heart.

Loading big weights while growing may be a different case

He IS growing. The human male only truly stops growing when we're 25, though most of that is done by the late teens. Doing cardio and light weights is definitely going to help him reach that goal. The whole point of cardio is to increase your aerobic fitness which helps in every factor regarding endurance.
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exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
August 28 2011 10:27 GMT
#10575
And are you telling him to hit the juice?
It is, in the end, whatever the Hell I want it to be, And when I'm through with it, it's gonna blow a hole, This wide, straight through the worlds own idea of itself. They're throwing bottles at your house. Come on, lets go break their arms.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
August 28 2011 10:32 GMT
#10576
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Well i think i'm getting trolled here.
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exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
August 28 2011 10:35 GMT
#10577
Defs not trolling.
It is, in the end, whatever the Hell I want it to be, And when I'm through with it, it's gonna blow a hole, This wide, straight through the worlds own idea of itself. They're throwing bottles at your house. Come on, lets go break their arms.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
August 28 2011 10:44 GMT
#10578
On August 28 2011 18:39 Magicbox wrote:
Hi all!

I remember I used to post a little in one of the old H & F threads. I have been lifting on and off for some time, but I have decided I'm going to get huge. I'm starting a 3split routine tomorrow. My hope is that by posting in this thread I will stay motivated.

I will get some pictures taken asap, so I can see how my progress is.

I have some secondary goals as well.

First is being able to do a hundrede push-ups by the end of the semester. The whole class is training after each schoolday in order to reach the goal.

Second is getting some running shoes, so I can start running. I don't have any specific distances in mind, I'm just trying to improve my cardiovascular health.

Third is getting back into mountainbike hiking (in forest and such) again.

Fourth and last goal is to start rowing, so we can compete properly at our schools yearly competition (maritime school).

I'm 180 cm and weigh ~80 kg at present.


Go hundred pushups.com if you wanna reach that goal.
have fun biking and running!



On August 28 2011 18:23 shucklesors wrote:
Hi guys, first time I'm posting in this thread ever, pardon me if I sound a little off than how you should normally post here..
So I challenged my friend to reaching 35 standard pull ups, and I wanna win as hell.
I'm 16 this year and I weigh 68 kg, can do 22 standard pull ups as of earlier today. I know I'm not going to reach that number quick if I rely on just going through the same motion, so was just wondering if you guys got any advice on specific weight trainings that will build up muscle parts needed for that.
Thanks in advance!


Go with glurios advice. and make sure you have good technnique ie-going all the way down.




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Magicbox
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Denmark73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 10:52:16
August 28 2011 10:49 GMT
#10579
On August 28 2011 19:14 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:39 Magicbox wrote:
Hi all!

I remember I used to post a little in one of the old H & F threads. I have been lifting on and off for some time, but I have decided I'm going to get huge. I'm starting a 3split routine tomorrow. My hope is that by posting in this thread I will stay motivated.

I will get some pictures taken asap, so I can see how my progress is.

I have some secondary goals as well.

First is being able to do a hundrede push-ups by the end of the semester. The whole class is training after each schoolday in order to reach the goal.

Second is getting some running shoes, so I can start running. I don't have any specific distances in mind, I'm just trying to improve my cardiovascular health.

Third is getting back into mountainbike hiking (in forest and such) again.

Fourth and last goal is to start rowing, so we can compete properly at our schools yearly competition (maritime school).

I'm 180 cm and weigh ~80 kg at present.





What 3 split routine? How many days a week? In general it's advisable to do something other than the usual brosplit routine.

Post the pictures.

Well with all this cardio goals you have to eat a shitton to grow.

At that size and height you should be decently big already, if most of it is muscle that is.



I will do back/biceps, chest/shoulders/tris and legs by them self - each split two times a week. And of course focus on the big lifts ie. squats, deads, chins, bp, dips, mili press, bor etc. I'm past the SS programme. When I stopped lifting a few months back i was at 300+ lbs in dl and 250+ lbs for squat. I will most likely change the routine after 8 weeks and go over to heavy lifting multiple times a week, but for now I want my body and joints to be accustomed to lifting again.

I will post pics when I get them taken (it will most likely take a while as my camera is back in my old apartment) but I can already say now that my legs are lagging behind very badly.


Yea, I realize I have to eat a lot, but I'm usually doing half Gomad when bulking, so I get a decent amount of calories from there. I feel I've got the nutrition part down quite nicely, so I should be fine there.

I would guess that I'm ~15% bodyfat atm.


Edit

On August 28 2011 19:44 jjhchsc2 wrote:

Go hundred pushups.com if you wanna reach that goal.
have fun biking and running!




Yea, that's the site our teacher said we would go by. He was the one who made us make the deal :D

Thanks!
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
August 28 2011 10:57 GMT
#10580
Lifting six times a week, while running, training for push ups and rowing?
I don't think you get enough recovery time with that.
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