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TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 457
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
50kg x 15 warmup 80kg x 10 100kg x 10 120kg x 3 felt pretty good, will probably feel it tomorrow though  especially my hands, fkn carpal tunnel messing up my grip strenght | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:55 MeShiet wrote: Goddamnit, I appreciate the help from someone I don't know spotting me on the bench press but when I clearly say: "you can let go now" PLEASE LET GO OF THE BAR... I was so looking forward to breaking 155lbs today but every rep after my first didn't count. I know he was helping me up AND down. There is no way it should've felt as light as it did. Ugh, guess I'll go back at it on Friday with the girlfriend there who I've taught to not touch the bar unless it falls on me. /endrant. Oh man, this thread might just rival (if not beat) the popularity of the NaDa's Body thread in the Broodwar section come November. Don't have pics of myself yet but they'll eventually get posted as ordered by Funkie, so instead I present to TL H&F my consolation meal for having a not so great gym day. (yes there's chunks missing off of my steak, I was too hungry to hold the camera) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1w3XD.jpg) 1. Happy Birthday Funkie! 2. App looks awesome - android version now pls. 3. I've got a "before" picture from the start of the summer; I'll post up an "after" once I hit my bodyweight goal. Best get grilling and drinking my milk! =x. I think promising to post a progress picture is going to be more motivational even than the thread - wouldn't want to disappoint! On July 26 2011 06:56 Necosarius wrote: Happy birthday funkie!! I got severe neck pain after squatting. It hurts when I tilt my head. Any ideas?  Video? Are you looking too far up or too far down during the squat? keeping your chest up? On July 26 2011 07:16 Malinor wrote: I power clean way more than I full clean -.- I am just too arrogant, having done full cleans two or three times in my life (and the last time was 10 days ago), but of course I go up in 10kg-steps. But fortunately barbells have a way to keep you humble, less weight and more technic from now on. And I hit 100reps on the jump rope, and I stopped intentionally because my feet hurt... yeah, I am a pussy. I also feel like I cut my rope too short (to be fair, that was over a year ago, I would have been smarter now).I'd love to learn to full clean - I will eventually, when I get stronger. Right now I've JUST hit a full plate on my powerclean, and I'm really starting to get a feel for that technique. I'd like to learn how to do these well before I branch out, especially because the concept of "get under the bar" sounds so foreign to me right now as compared to all the other lifts where it's "put the bar where you want it to be". | ||
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decafchicken
United States20143 Posts
Pretty solid workout, probably 10-15 CJ + FS at 110-115 and then 5 more CJ reps at 120 (super tired at this point, back really sore from work T_T). and then a bit of snatching around 80 to finish up. I think bud might have mumbled "good" a couple times under his breath and only told me a few things i was doing wrong and i think i caught a "good workout" at the end. Can't be sure. Would be a first. Also talked a bit about the "springing" mechanics that are your joints, tendons, and the flex of the bar. Coach knows so many fucking things about every aspect its crazy. Did some barefoot 70-100m sprints after, feels so good to run with my eyes closed and everything is loose and i'm moving faster than i ever have. Wish i had time for more speed work but so fucking busy afpoiewjpaowiefj. Need to start working out more than once a week, this is getting bad T_T On July 21 2011 07:50 AoN.DimSum wrote: I tried snatch + ohs today up to 60. It really hurt my wrists LOL. It was actually harder than I expected, but I didnt go heavy enough to actually test it. i have done clean + fsq + jerk before and I like it a lot. Also, 160 is a monster snatch WOW Yeah snatch + OHS is brutal on your wrist at first lol. I havent done it over 75% so i havent really pushed it either, but i like it, gives you a feel for staying tight and keeping the bar in the slot. And yea he still makes front squats at 160+ look like lightweight T_T Figure out your upcoming lifting scheme yet? Article you might like to read (even though iirc you already have a low start) by nick horton: http://bretcontreras.com/2011/07/banned-in-the-usa-a-renegade-approach-to-learning-the-olympic-lifts/ AND WHERE ARE YOUR VIDEOS FROM NATIONALS DIMSUM! On July 26 2011 07:16 Malinor wrote: I power clean way more than I full clean -.- I am just too arrogant, having done full cleans two or three times in my life (and the last time was 10 days ago), but of course I go up in 10kg-steps. But fortunately barbells have a way to keep you humble, less weight and more technic from now on. And I hit 100reps on the jump rope, and I stopped intentionally because my feet hurt... yeah, I am a pussy. I also feel like I cut my rope too short (to be fair, that was over a year ago, I would have been smarter now).Don't worry, everyone starts out that way. Flexibility, confidence, speed under the bar, etc all play a role and come as you work on it. I think i used to powerclean 100-110kg and clean like 80-90kg when i first started and now i'm at ~125 power and ~145 clean. Snatch was even more ridiculous lol. p.s. i think i have the opposite problem of 99% of guys. girls tell me i have nice arms, when i dont care and no i dont do a million curlz, I may have to marry the first girl i find that appreciates leg muscles -_- | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 25 2011 15:37 jjhchsc2 wrote: ''at the moment'' argh that scares me ): So it's ok to change back to working out 2-3 hours before i sleep? O.O i think it has something to do with what i eat after the milk and how much i drink. So i will try to reduce the milk but would that affect my lifts? and i will just eat more digestable foods such as rice and green tea or something after lol, don't worry about it too much man. It will make maybe about maybe 2-3% difference at your level max. It's something that should be taken into account if you want max gains but overall won't make a huge difference. On July 25 2011 23:07 BouBou.865 wrote: Is it sensical to do PowerCleans when I don't have the flexibility to actually rack the bar properly? Like I'm stretching every off day and I'm definately making progress with my flexibility, but I still can't get my upper arms horizontal and the weight completely on my shoulders. Yeah, don't work it until you can do it safely Health > attempting to try stuff | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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Catch
United States616 Posts
325 x 5-5-5 Bent Rows 130 x 10-10-10 Incline DB BP 65 lbs x 5-5-5 Incline DB Flies 40 x 10-10-10 Seated Calves 110 x 15-15-15 Full Decline Sit up 50 lbs x 12-12-12 ---- Fuck Yes. Like a message from the lifting gods, I showed up to the gym in the evening, compared to my normal morning, and lo and behold there is a bunch of chalk on the bar that I need for rack pulls. A success before I even began. Everything else is in line. Hell, I think I even cut in front. That mental battle I was having with myself disappeared over the weekend and I felt new and energetic as I stepped up to that first rack pull all the way to the last sit up. --- Song of the week: Sail - AWOLNATION OH YEAH! EDIT: HAPPY BIRTHDAY FUNKIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | ||
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decafchicken
United States20143 Posts
 My vert literally went up like 3 inches after a month or two of oly lifting, i went from grabbing rim to nearly dunking (i'll get there some day) | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
sorry i have no videos of nationals. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20143 Posts
On July 26 2011 10:49 AoN.DimSum wrote: My coach is on vacation, but he said I can start doing 2 workouts a day when he gets back. sorry i have no videos of nationals. decaf ANGRY p.s. i think i'm 8 weeks out from competition or so. there's a pretty big one a week before my first league game so i might skip out on the friendly match to lift. teammates will murder me T_T | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On July 26 2011 11:06 decafchicken wrote: decaf ANGRY p.s. i think i'm 8 weeks out from competition or so. there's a pretty big one a week before my first league game so i might skip out on the friendly match to lift. teammates will murder me T_T Spend all this time Oly Lifting to get to being the best Rugby player on your team, then skip rugby to Oly Lift =p. Good that you have your priorities right decaf! Now just skip out on the game if you ever end up playing against SU and all will be good. @dunking - Back in highschool, I could always grab rim with both hands from a standing jump... and on a good day, I could even throw it down. I hurt my knee senior year though, and since then I've barely been able to get a single hand on it. Powerclean and squat have both done wonders for my vertical jump - and my knee's all better when I'm on a no-grains diet, but I've also added a bit over 30 pounds of bodyweight since highschool, so my jump has stayed about the same on the height. As I'm still building (hope to add between 10 and fifteen pounds this month) I don't expect that to go anywhere anytime soon... But I can tell you from experience - when you're 6'3 already, and playing at a recreational/intermural level (me), being strong as a bull is a hell of a lot more useful than jumping to the moon. Rebound + putback may not be so flashy, but it sure as hell is better to be on the winning team than to hit the alley-oop and lose the game. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
When squatting with what I've finally figured to be "proper form" I feel more power coming out of (and after the lift, more fatigue in) my hamstrings than in my quads. I know there's supposed to be some involvement of the glutes and hamstrings, but should they feel like they are dominating the lift? Similarly, I feel that my deadlifts are dominated by the glutes and lower back, rather than the hamstrings... yet my power clean is definitely bigger on the hamstrings. I know that all these parts should be involved, but is this a problem with my set up, a problem with my form, a muscular imbalance, or completely normal? | ||
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decafchicken
United States20143 Posts
haha already played you guys once (lost) but i have a feeling we'd do better if we ran into you again ^_^ (me + 30 pounds )As for your squatting, when i was doing a lot of squatting deadlifting it kind of varied where i'd feel it, but i'd say i often felt it in my posterior chain the most. Also depends on things like lowbar vs high bar and how low you squat. Some days squatting my thighs would be shot, other days my lower back. Deadlifting pretty much always hit my back most then glutes/hammies. I also did sprints after my workouts each day which basically hit my hammies + glutes more so take it for what its worth. Overall i'd say that feeling a lot of power coming in your hammies in your squats is a good thing, you're probably activating more of your legs than you used to. I never feel powercleans really anywhere other than back/traps/hips so i can't comment. then again my form is probably a lot different then yours. /way too long and in reference to basketball, yeah i'm fucking awful at basketball but i just use raw strength/athleticism and i win most box outs/rebounds and god help you if you're in the way of me on a lay up drive CAUSE YOU'RE GETTING RAN OVER SON, COUNT IT AND 1 | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On July 26 2011 10:30 decafchicken wrote: Power cleans greatest indicator of vertical rise and vertical rise is greatest indicator of athletic ability. Put two and two together My vert literally went up like 3 inches after a month or two of oly lifting, i went from grabbing rim to nearly dunking (i'll get there some day) This guy is pretty athletic: On July 26 2011 11:23 phyre112 wrote: But I can tell you from experience - when you're 6'3 already, and playing at a recreational/intermural level (me), being strong as a bull is a hell of a lot more useful than jumping to the moon. Rebound + putback may not be so flashy, but it sure as hell is better to be on the winning team than to hit the alley-oop and lose the game. Yeah, it'd be pretty crazy to play a post game vs an Olympic lifter or a powerlifter. I used to play point guard and all we did were plyometric exercises and a little bit of squats/benchpresses. Nothing systematic or thorough though. I wish I knew about SS back then. I can tell you that my first step will be a lot more explosive than it was before when I was 16, and my 1-2 shot will be a lot QUICKER too. | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
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Pai Mei
Hong Kong16 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On July 26 2011 11:54 decafchicken wrote: @phyre haha already played you guys once (lost) but i have a feeling we'd do better if we ran into you again ^_^ (me + 30 pounds )As for your squatting, when i was doing a lot of squatting deadlifting it kind of varied where i'd feel it, but i'd say i often felt it in my posterior chain the most. Also depends on things like lowbar vs high bar and how low you squat. Some days squatting my thighs would be shot, other days my lower back. Deadlifting pretty much always hit my back most then glutes/hammies. I also did sprints after my workouts each day which basically hit my hammies + glutes more so take it for what its worth. Overall i'd say that feeling a lot of power coming in your hammies in your squats is a good thing, you're probably activating more of your legs than you used to. I never feel powercleans really anywhere other than back/traps/hips so i can't comment. then again my form is probably a lot different then yours. /way too long and in reference to basketball, yeah i'm fucking awful at basketball but i just use raw strength/athleticism and i win most box outs/rebounds and god help you if you're in the way of me on a lay up drive CAUSE YOU'RE GETTING RAN OVER SON, COUNT IT AND 1 I hear our rugby team had a rough recruiting class. Tons of players - tons of big, athletic guys, but no one who had ever played rugby before. Guess that sucks for them. I still squat high bar - not quite ATG anymore, because of the height of the safety bars on the rack at the gym I'm using, but there just feels like there's something WRONG about stopping at parallel. Hitting the safety bars is going to get me maybe three inches from rock bottom, calves touching thighs. I stop somewhere between there and hips past knees on every rep. You're certainly right about feeling more power in the squat. The first time I made it to the weight I'm moving now, I'd be pouring sweat, knees shaking, usually going 5-4-4 for my rep count. Now, the weight still feels heavy by the 15th lift, but it's clearly not going to be a problem to put it up next time I squat, or the time after. My legs are nowhere NEAR being the limit anymore. Then again - I'm only barely over BW, and I deadlift 1.5x that. My PC must be better than it once was if I'm feeling it mostly the same places you are... I think the secret was the day I realized how much tighter I needed to stay in my core, and the way I needed to move the bar with my hips and traps at the same time, not just one then the other. Still a long way to go, but I think i'll get there. | ||
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
My current philosophy is the age-old mantra "shop the edges of the store." All the real food is on the outside and all the junk is in the aisles. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 26 2011 02:06 Cambium wrote: 1. happy bday 2. good job on the app, i don't have an iphone, but i might get on soon 3. EVERYBODY post fucking pics I'm going to move to Japan soon, and I really hope I find a decent gym where I can squat, DL and clean. I have pics from July 2009, April 2010, April 2011. They're in this thread. Go find Wally lol | ||
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urasheep
62 Posts
strong buldge lol | ||
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