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Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 05:02:19
March 07 2011 04:59 GMT
#2221
Oh I see, thanks for the advice guys! I do do assisted pull ups as well. My back is too weak to actually do a normal pull up without assists. I just thought it was good to have more variety in the works outs, so when I go to the gym I generally alternate between them.

Quick question, is that link to the 5x5 workout all there is, or is there a book to it as well that is available for purchase?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
March 07 2011 05:07 GMT
#2222
On March 07 2011 13:59 Pandonetho wrote:
Oh I see, thanks for the advice guys! I do do assisted pull ups as well. My back is too weak to actually do a normal pull up without assists. I just thought it was good to have more variety in the works outs, so when I go to the gym I generally alternate between them.

Quick question, is that link to the 5x5 workout all there is, or is there a book to it as well that is available for purchase?


I recommend Starting Strength over a 5x5 program usually, and it does have a book... highly recommended purchase, by the way. Even if you don't end up doing Starting Strength it'll teach you the core lifts--squat, deadlift, bench press, overhead press, and power clean--in detail.

The programs are also in the OP. I personally do the pullup/chinup variation of Starting Strength in lieu of doing power cleans, just because I have no coaching and no confidence in power cleaning.
Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
March 07 2011 05:09 GMT
#2223
Great, I'll have to check it out then. Also, just checked out the Overhead press. It sure looks intimidating, lol.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
March 07 2011 05:19 GMT
#2224
On March 07 2011 14:09 Pandonetho wrote:
Great, I'll have to check it out then. Also, just checked out the Overhead press. It sure looks intimidating, lol.


It's not that bad . It's pretty easy to miss the overhead press safely, while having low confidence about completing a squat rep can make the trip down pretty scary.

Don't be afraid of getting injured with barbell exercises. People are surprised to know that injuries in the weight room are actually quite rare, especially so if you know how to complete the lifts. Also, a lot of the fun is seeing how well you can do the lift, considering most weaknesses come from poor technique and sharpening up your technique increases the amount of weight you can do.

I'm six months into SS and my technique has improved dramatically. I'd already be squatting 150kgx5 if I hadn't gotten sick 6 fucking times this winter.l
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
March 07 2011 05:20 GMT
#2225
On March 07 2011 13:59 Pandonetho wrote:
Oh I see, thanks for the advice guys! I do do assisted pull ups as well. My back is too weak to actually do a normal pull up without assists. I just thought it was good to have more variety in the works outs, so when I go to the gym I generally alternate between them.

Quick question, is that link to the 5x5 workout all there is, or is there a book to it as well that is available for purchase?


Assisted pullups are great, try to decrease the assisted weight every workout if you continue with that.

You do not need variety in your workouts until you get to the point where your body cannot increase the weight every workout. Even then, I would be it's more your diet and recovery you should change first, but that's up to you of course.

There is a book for 5x5 that's very similar to starting strength. I would recommend at least skimming through starting strength since it seems to have the best explanations on how to properly perform the basic lifts. But yeah 5x5 is just 5 sets of 5 of whatever exercise you are on, plus the warm up sets- look up how to calculate those on the starting strength wiki as you should never not do warm ups: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#How_do_I_warm_up_properly_for_my_training_sessions.3F

Since I'm lazy I use the warm up calculator provided.

@rosa: I originally started with the chinups/pullups version for the same reason, but after getting my ristos I decided I'm going for the powercleans- definitely leaving it at 45 for a couple more sessions to iron out technique issues
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
March 07 2011 05:23 GMT
#2226
On March 07 2011 14:20 vicariouscheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 13:59 Pandonetho wrote:
Oh I see, thanks for the advice guys! I do do assisted pull ups as well. My back is too weak to actually do a normal pull up without assists. I just thought it was good to have more variety in the works outs, so when I go to the gym I generally alternate between them.

Quick question, is that link to the 5x5 workout all there is, or is there a book to it as well that is available for purchase?


Assisted pullups are great, try to decrease the assisted weight every workout if you continue with that.

You do not need variety in your workouts until you get to the point where your body cannot increase the weight every workout. Even then, I would be it's more your diet and recovery you should change first, but that's up to you of course.

There is a book for 5x5 that's very similar to starting strength. I would recommend at least skimming through starting strength since it seems to have the best explanations on how to properly perform the basic lifts. But yeah 5x5 is just 5 sets of 5 of whatever exercise you are on, plus the warm up sets- look up how to calculate those on the starting strength wiki as you should never not do warm ups: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#How_do_I_warm_up_properly_for_my_training_sessions.3F

Since I'm lazy I use the warm up calculator provided.

@rosa: I originally started with the chinups/pullups version for the same reason, but after getting my ristos I decided I'm going for the powercleans- definitely leaving it at 45 for a couple more sessions to iron out technique issues


It seems that we're Ristobros. /high five

Actually one of the staff members at my gym is an ex professional olympic lifter, so I do have coaching available to me. But right now I'm going for decaf's deadlift record so I'm focusing on deadlifting every Sunday at +5kg/session.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 07 2011 05:51 GMT
#2227
anyone know what pissing red means? other than internal bleeding lol

last 3 soccer games i get home and piss red, then the next morning it goes back to yellow. donno wtf is up with that haha
aka DragOn[NaS]
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 10:22:10
March 07 2011 10:19 GMT
#2228
On March 07 2011 14:09 Pandonetho wrote:
Great, I'll have to check it out then. Also, just checked out the Overhead press. It sure looks intimidating, lol.

the overhead press is actually one of the safer barbell movements because you can't lift a whole lot of weight in the first place. and if you can't put it above your head for whatever reason, you can just let it back down on your shoulders without too much trouble (unlike the bench press).

it's also a hell of a lot of fun shoving weights up in the air. i'm sure you'll be saying the same thing once you get the hang of it

@fyre: get that checked out asap dude. that's scary.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 07 2011 13:23 GMT
#2229
On March 07 2011 14:51 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
anyone know what pissing red means? other than internal bleeding lol

last 3 soccer games i get home and piss red, then the next morning it goes back to yellow. donno wtf is up with that haha


Dark red/brown is rhabdomyolysis... which is very very very bad.

Do you get excessively sore in any places from the games?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 07 2011 13:28 GMT
#2230
Back from the states, running on 2 hours of sleep for the last 24 hours. Time to get regular eating back.

missed you guys <3
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 13:54:05
March 07 2011 13:48 GMT
#2231
wb sjarl!

bought new shoes with very flat soles (similar to chucks) and did 115kg squat today. I think my legs are dead because apparently I hit some different muscles with my new shoes compared to my old ones... maybe I should have started with less weight to get used to squatting almost bare-foot ^^ managed to do 5x5x4x115kg though (failed last rep because of poor form :/ ) so its all good
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
March 07 2011 15:31 GMT
#2232
brag story

I went to the pool yesterday with my girl and some of her friends,
they asked her if I swim or something, she said "he used to, why?"

they say "it shows"

Boom. Raul rules assholes. :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
aaronlolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
134 Posts
March 07 2011 16:00 GMT
#2233
Save this name somewhere: Sean Nalewanyj. Dude is a genius. Has a series of videos that can be found on YouTube(not official so don't be surprised if they get taken down) that are packed full of amazing information and just general knowledge.

Also for anyone who has any questions that gym rats on TL might not know, try the forums on BodyBuilding.com (Not sure about any trouble for "advertising" just trying to provide useful info, take this post down if need be) have alot of experienced guys who seem to have answers to most of my questions.

Anyone here ever been to any boxing gyms? I heard often they spend 75% of their time beating you into condition to make sure your body can go through hell and back. I'm taking BJJ here this summer but was always curious what boxing gyms were like.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 07 2011 18:13 GMT
#2234
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 18:18:53
March 07 2011 18:18 GMT
#2235
lol that spotter has the best job in the world!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 07 2011 19:05 GMT
#2236
On March 07 2011 22:23 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 14:51 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
anyone know what pissing red means? other than internal bleeding lol

last 3 soccer games i get home and piss red, then the next morning it goes back to yellow. donno wtf is up with that haha


Dark red/brown is rhabdomyolysis... which is very very very bad.

Do you get excessively sore in any places from the games?


no im just really tired..donno whats going on, but i definately havent had a "severe muscle trauma" that i know of. rhabdomyolysis is disturbing..acute kidney failure??? :O I dont know how I could have that though, because I havent had any serious injuries, resulting in the breakdown of skeletal muscle tissue.

I think I may have just been dehydrated, I looked up a bunch of possible other causes/symptoms and nothing really matches up. Thnx for the help anyway
aka DragOn[NaS]
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
March 07 2011 19:19 GMT
#2237
On March 08 2011 03:13 sJarl wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpCUjgydgHM&feature=player_embedded#at=78


That's like right on the line of attractive and over the top... I can't decide what to think :O

@funkie- I need to get some workout partners like you Would be pretty entertaining. and I need to practice my spanish.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 07 2011 19:26 GMT
#2238
bad road conditions = no school today

no school = no gym

shovelled snow for 1.5 hours then pushed a car out of snow, really good exercise actually
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
March 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#2239
On March 08 2011 04:05 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 22:23 eshlow wrote:
On March 07 2011 14:51 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
anyone know what pissing red means? other than internal bleeding lol

last 3 soccer games i get home and piss red, then the next morning it goes back to yellow. donno wtf is up with that haha


Dark red/brown is rhabdomyolysis... which is very very very bad.

Do you get excessively sore in any places from the games?


no im just really tired..donno whats going on, but i definately havent had a "severe muscle trauma" that i know of. rhabdomyolysis is disturbing..acute kidney failure??? :O I dont know how I could have that though, because I havent had any serious injuries, resulting in the breakdown of skeletal muscle tissue.

I think I may have just been dehydrated, I looked up a bunch of possible other causes/symptoms and nothing really matches up. Thnx for the help anyway


Do not try to self-diagnose when you do not have the education/training.
That is the most dangerous thing anyone could do.

Pissing blood indicates kidney damage, you'd best get to a hospital asap.
Kidney damage doesn't just come from physical trauma, and dehydration(from lack of water intake) alone does not cause blood in your urine.

Your condition could very definitely kill you.
Get to a hospital asap.
Come get some
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
March 07 2011 19:59 GMT
#2240
On March 08 2011 04:05 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 22:23 eshlow wrote:
On March 07 2011 14:51 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
anyone know what pissing red means? other than internal bleeding lol

last 3 soccer games i get home and piss red, then the next morning it goes back to yellow. donno wtf is up with that haha


Dark red/brown is rhabdomyolysis... which is very very very bad.

Do you get excessively sore in any places from the games?


no im just really tired..donno whats going on, but i definately havent had a "severe muscle trauma" that i know of. rhabdomyolysis is disturbing..acute kidney failure??? :O I dont know how I could have that though, because I havent had any serious injuries, resulting in the breakdown of skeletal muscle tissue.

I think I may have just been dehydrated, I looked up a bunch of possible other causes/symptoms and nothing really matches up. Thnx for the help anyway


You are pissing blood. This is a very serious symptom that requires a physician's attention immediately. Stop fucking around on TL and get your ass to a doctor.
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