On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Eh.
The primary problem with dragon decks is the need to include taunts and self-heals in addition to the dragons, because there's no playable taunt minion in a dragon deck and your main concern is simply dying to aggro decks..
Honestly, if they had like a 5/6 6-mana with taunt, they would be in a significantly better position due to not needing to clog up the 5-mana slot with belchers (and healbots)..
On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Yeah but it gave us Emperor Thaurissan, which became basically an autoinclude in any combo or hand type deck.
Nefarian isn't too bad either.
There are successful cards in BRM, but outside of Grim Patron and Flamewaker they mostly just make existing decks stronger than before. Thaurissan at least had the potential to make new combos, but it turns out that making the old combos stronger was more competitive. Cards like Quick Shot, Solem Vigil, Fireguard Destroyer, and Imp Gang Boss didn't change anything up, they just got swapped in to existing decks.
Hence, stale meta and players clamoring for something more.
On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Eh.
The primary problem with dragon decks is the need to include taunts and self-heals in addition to the dragons, because there's no playable taunt minion in a dragon deck and your main concern is simply dying to aggro decks..
Honestly, if they had like a 5/6 6-mana with taunt, they would be in a significantly better position due to not needing to clog up the 5-mana slot with belchers (and healbots)..
i haven't played much since BRM but why can't people just run belchers like always?
On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Eh.
The primary problem with dragon decks is the need to include taunts and self-heals in addition to the dragons, because there's no playable taunt minion in a dragon deck and your main concern is simply dying to aggro decks..
Honestly, if they had like a 5/6 6-mana with taunt, they would be in a significantly better position due to not needing to clog up the 5-mana slot with belchers (and healbots)..
i haven't played much since BRM but why can't people just run belchers like always?
They can, but the card that gets sacrificed for that ends up being a dragon.
That’s how I found myself cutting more and more dragons from my Dragon Paladin decks. I needed more taunts, so the Azure Drakes had to leave for Sludge Belchers. I needed more reliable midgame minions, so the Hungry Dragons left for Piloted Shredders. As more dragons left, Blackwing Technician just didn’t have enough support, so I left her to yell about her work elsewhere. I also kept feeling like I needed to fit cards like Big Game Hunter, or Ironbeak Owl, or Antique Healbot – all of the situational cards that are so important when you’re playing a midrange or control deck that has to fight through everything your opponent throws at it. That doesn’t leave much room for dragons.
Ultimately, the Dragon Paladin deck with which I had the most success and that I played more or less exclusively from Rank 5 to Legend, barely had any dragons at all.
There were already very few dragons in these decks because so few were even workable. When push came to shove it turned out that the remaining dragons were just worse than the other cards in the deck, so when other cards needed to get swapped in the dragons got swapped out.
Kibler's final deck literally had four dragons in it, including the Consorts themselves. Welp.
On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Eh.
The primary problem with dragon decks is the need to include taunts and self-heals in addition to the dragons, because there's no playable taunt minion in a dragon deck and your main concern is simply dying to aggro decks..
Honestly, if they had like a 5/6 6-mana with taunt, they would be in a significantly better position due to not needing to clog up the 5-mana slot with belchers (and healbots)..
i haven't played much since BRM but why can't people just run belchers like always?
You can, but there are some really great dragon 5 drops that you want to play (Dragon Consort, Corrupter), but then you end up with low heals/tankage.
edit (@Monte) - I watched Kibler's stream pretty religiously while he was experimenting with Dragodin, and you could tell how sad he was that it just wasn't working with all the dragons.
Apparently playerbase is up over 150% right now with a LOT of people learning the game online. Now would be an EXCELLENT time to start learning as you'd be on the same page with a lot of randoms for practice, which isn't usually the case.
On June 05 2015 04:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Sorry more SG talk
Apparently playerbase is up over 150% right now with a LOT of people learning the game online. Now would be an EXCELLENT time to start learning as you'd be on the same page with a lot of randoms for practice, which isn't usually the case.
On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Eh.
The primary problem with dragon decks is the need to include taunts and self-heals in addition to the dragons, because there's no playable taunt minion in a dragon deck and your main concern is simply dying to aggro decks..
Honestly, if they had like a 5/6 6-mana with taunt, they would be in a significantly better position due to not needing to clog up the 5-mana slot with belchers (and healbots)..
i haven't played much since BRM but why can't people just run belchers like always?
You can, but there are some really great dragon 5 drops that you want to play (Dragon Consort, Corrupter), but then you end up with low heals/tankage.
edit (@Monte) - I watched Kibler's stream pretty religiously while he was experimenting with Dragodin, and you could tell how sad he was that it just wasn't working with all the dragons.
Kibler's an Elitist Jerk alum, so I'm a fan of his by default.
He's also probably the best Hearthstone blogger and it's a shame he doesn't have more opportunities to. I don't agree with everything he says but he's very insightful, especially since he's both an experienced player and designer.
On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Eh.
The primary problem with dragon decks is the need to include taunts and self-heals in addition to the dragons, because there's no playable taunt minion in a dragon deck and your main concern is simply dying to aggro decks..
Honestly, if they had like a 5/6 6-mana with taunt, they would be in a significantly better position due to not needing to clog up the 5-mana slot with belchers (and healbots)..
i haven't played much since BRM but why can't people just run belchers like always?
You can, but there are some really great dragon 5 drops that you want to play (Dragon Consort, Corrupter), but then you end up with low heals/tankage.
edit (@Monte) - I watched Kibler's stream pretty religiously while he was experimenting with Dragodin, and you could tell how sad he was that it just wasn't working with all the dragons.
Kibler's an Elitist Jerk alum, so I'm a fan of his by default.
He's also probably the best Hearthstone blogger and it's a shame he doesn't have more opportunities to. I don't agree with everything he says but he's very insightful, especially since he's both an experienced player and designer.
Yeah I like him. I've got some Kibler MtG tokens from a PTQ (along with some other MtG stars) a while back.
On June 05 2015 02:27 Seuss wrote: Blizzard had stated back in Jan 2014 that alternative heroes were in the works, but wouldn't affect gameplay. It's not really a surprise.
But I think players are clamoring for new gameplay elements because Blackrock Mountain was pretty bad in terms of shaking things up. It added Patron Warrior, Lightbomb Priest, and Demonlock to the mix, but outside of those first frenetic weeks there hasn't been a whole lot of movement in the meta. It doesn't help that Blizzard has simultaneously stopped nerfing/buffing anything.
The biggest issue with BRM was that the mechanic it was centralized around (dragons) ended up being a complete flop. As much as I love my dragodin deck, it's really just not very good.
Eh.
The primary problem with dragon decks is the need to include taunts and self-heals in addition to the dragons, because there's no playable taunt minion in a dragon deck and your main concern is simply dying to aggro decks..
Honestly, if they had like a 5/6 6-mana with taunt, they would be in a significantly better position due to not needing to clog up the 5-mana slot with belchers (and healbots)..
i haven't played much since BRM but why can't people just run belchers like always?
You can, but there are some really great dragon 5 drops that you want to play (Dragon Consort, Corrupter), but then you end up with low heals/tankage.
edit (@Monte) - I watched Kibler's stream pretty religiously while he was experimenting with Dragodin, and you could tell how sad he was that it just wasn't working with all the dragons.
Kibler's an Elitist Jerk alum, so I'm a fan of his by default.
He's also probably the best Hearthstone blogger and it's a shame he doesn't have more opportunities to. I don't agree with everything he says but he's very insightful, especially since he's both an experienced player and designer.
Yeah I like him. I've got some Kibler MtG tokens from a PTQ (along with some other MtG stars) a while back.
Suuuucks
When is DnD? Maybe you can play a couple games before you go? I'm getting spoiled by this new player shit, I've won 14 out of my last 15, though I think I've rounded a corner offensively at least. Have a much better understanding of timings and weight classes now; makes me wonder why I had such a ridiculously hard time with it before. Something just 'clicked.' I'll probably still have a shit time dealing with your mixups though.
I'll stick with the savatage song (even though I think it has nothing to do with the actual classical piece). still really cool though. there's been a lot of good metal songs based around that melody.
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