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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 12 2014 15:02 GMT
#43561
I personally never got into Mass Effect, but my brother loved it
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 12 2014 15:05 GMT
#43562
Mass Effect at it's core is the same basic formula that Bioware's been following since Baldur's Gate 2. The plot/gameplay of BG2, KotOR, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect are all fundamentally the same, just transplanted into different gameplay systems/campaign settings.

Though in this regard I have to give credit to Bioware for breaking away from their cookie-cutter design somewhat in Mass Effect 2, and honestly I think the game is better than the first one for it (I still have had not had the chance to play 3).
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 15:09:26
June 12 2014 15:08 GMT
#43563
ME2 is the best of the series IMO.

Evidence:
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 12 2014 15:10 GMT
#43564
ME3 has some killer lines and loose end tying. It's unfortunate that you probably won't see all of it though. I spent a lot of time on the game just to see what the different endings to storylines and characters would be, but then not everyone has the patience for that. A lot of people also like to play the game through once because to them that is their storyline and that's cool too.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 12 2014 15:12 GMT
#43565
On June 12 2014 23:59 Nos- wrote:
Or you can play witcher :>

I'm surprised yango hates Bioware so hard though, I really liked Mass Effect for its characters and dialogue.


My old PC couldn't handle Witcher 2 so didn't buy it but now been thinking of getting it just not sure if I should wait for a sale or just grab it on steam.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 12 2014 15:14 GMT
#43566
I heard Steam sale is next week, btw. Not sure if it is true or not.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 12 2014 15:17 GMT
#43567
19th is the projected start date.

Shit, I have games from 2012's sales that I haven't played yet.
It's your boy Guzma!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 12 2014 15:19 GMT
#43568
Oh man thanks for that info. My other option is to go marketplace and buy some items to bet with to score more money. That sounds a bit too much of a gamble. I sold all my csgo chests to make $8 profit this week so maybe...
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 12 2014 15:20 GMT
#43569
Man I'd really have to go back to see what games I've played with good writing.

First instinct? Bastion I think is well-written, but that's an easy go-to (and I still could be wrong).

I wonder if FFT: WotL is actually well-written or it just has a good story. I'd have to play it again.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 12 2014 15:24 GMT
#43570
On June 13 2014 00:12 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 23:59 Nos- wrote:
Or you can play witcher :>

I'm surprised yango hates Bioware so hard though, I really liked Mass Effect for its characters and dialogue.


My old PC couldn't handle Witcher 2 so didn't buy it but now been thinking of getting it just not sure if I should wait for a sale or just grab it on steam.

It goes on sale for up to 75% off 3-4 times a year. wait.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 12 2014 15:26 GMT
#43571
On June 13 2014 00:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Man I'd really have to go back to see what games I've played with good writing.

First instinct? Bastion I think is well-written, but that's an easy go-to (and I still could be wrong).

I wonder if FFT: WotL is actually well-written or it just has a good story. I'd have to play it again.

Yeah, this is where this discussion is going to start to get hairy. While there are some stories that will universally be considered "good" or even "great" (personally I think Bastion falls there, btw), now we're going to get into the territory of opinion.

I keep shilling 999 and Virtue's Last Reward, but people are going to say those are VNs and don't count. One might say Katawa Shoujo, but we've seen where those discussions lead. Final Fantasy games, even within the FF fandom, are points of dissension. I personally really enjoyed Wings of Liberty and Heart of the Swarm's campaigns (not as much as BW, ofc), but I know that may be an unpopular opinion.

So I'm probably going to not join into this discussion too much :D
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 12 2014 15:31 GMT
#43572
On June 13 2014 00:05 TheYango wrote:
Mass Effect at it's core is the same basic formula that Bioware's been following since Baldur's Gate 2. The plot/gameplay of BG2, KotOR, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect are all fundamentally the same, just transplanted into different gameplay systems/campaign settings.

Though in this regard I have to give credit to Bioware for breaking away from their cookie-cutter design somewhat in Mass Effect 2, and honestly I think the game is better than the first one for it (I still have had not had the chance to play 3).

Mass Effect 2 is the best game. 3 is fun but they just couldn't live up to the promises they laid out in the first two games. Even disregarding the ending, the big choices really didn't end up mattering that much.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 15:33:20
June 12 2014 15:32 GMT
#43573
On June 12 2014 23:51 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 23:13 Scip wrote:
I wish videogames had good characters
even in fire emblem like 95% of the characters are reduced to like 1-2 gimmicks that can be summed up in one sentence. Gonzales is the kind giant, Orson is necrophiliac, Seth would hit it, Innes thinks he's in elo hell, Deghinsea will not move, Haar is sleepy, Ilyiana is hungry, Oscar can cook, Lucius is pretty, Garcia is too old for this shit, Boyd thinks he's stronger than Ike, Marth wishes Ken was playing in your stead, Karel is a beast, Karla wishes she was, Joshua likes gambling, L'Arachel is retarded and Eirika wants Lyon's dick


L'Arachel is retarded? I disagree. She is awesome. There is a super hero vibe to her.

I totally agree with Eirika though.

Althouh if I were writing the story I would make it a bit different.

+ Show Spoiler +
the first encounter Lyon would trick Eirikia to give up the Sacred Stone.

The second encounter Eirika gets tricked again. Lyon tries kill her, Seth blocks the attack and dies. Eirika is enraged and tries to kill Lyon and almost suceeds. Lyon escapes.

The demon in Lyon takes total control of him after the wound Eirika inflicted. Eirika encounters him a final time to clash with him to save the world as well as for personal revenge. Eirika suceeds this time to release the demon from Lyon's body.

What is left is the demon's shell. Eirika knows the pain and death the demon has inflicted onto this world and vows to stop him at all cost. <insert epic battle here>. Eirika stabs the demon in his heart with her Sacred blade, but the Demon draws his last breath to blast miasma at her, rendering her permanently blind for the rest of her life.

Peace is restored, but at what cost?

You'd have to rewrite the entire story just to make Eirika an interesting character imo
I actually like the story of FE:SS and how it's focused mostly on Lyon's inner struggles about what is right and just how much can one afford to sacrifice for power
it's just the side characters seem really bland even with their support convos which oftentimes just reinforce what we already know about them, at least that's what it feels like to me
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 12 2014 15:32 GMT
#43574
On June 13 2014 00:17 Requizen wrote:
19th is the projected start date.

Shit, I have games from 2012's sales that I haven't played yet.

Got my PC just in time lol. My wallet is already hurting.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 12 2014 15:34 GMT
#43575
On June 13 2014 00:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Man I'd really have to go back to see what games I've played with good writing.

First instinct? Bastion I think is well-written, but that's an easy go-to (and I still could be wrong).

I wonder if FFT: WotL is actually well-written or it just has a good story. I'd have to play it again.


Well I don't think Bastion is a particularly great story. It's just executed in a very unique and interesting style which I think is good writing.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 12 2014 15:34 GMT
#43576
On June 13 2014 00:32 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 00:17 Requizen wrote:
19th is the projected start date.

Shit, I have games from 2012's sales that I haven't played yet.

Got my PC just in time lol. My wallet is already hurting.


I assume you were successful in assembly?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 12 2014 15:36 GMT
#43577
On June 13 2014 00:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 00:32 onlywonderboy wrote:
On June 13 2014 00:17 Requizen wrote:
19th is the projected start date.

Shit, I have games from 2012's sales that I haven't played yet.

Got my PC just in time lol. My wallet is already hurting.


I assume you were successful in assembly?

If he wasn't, he'd be dead.
It's your boy Guzma!
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
June 12 2014 15:38 GMT
#43578
On June 13 2014 00:36 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 00:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 13 2014 00:32 onlywonderboy wrote:
On June 13 2014 00:17 Requizen wrote:
19th is the projected start date.

Shit, I have games from 2012's sales that I haven't played yet.

Got my PC just in time lol. My wallet is already hurting.


I assume you were successful in assembly?

If he wasn't, he'd be dead.


Dying isn't fun, ask cixah.


What is dead May never die
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 15:42:10
June 12 2014 15:39 GMT
#43579
On June 13 2014 00:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Man I'd really have to go back to see what games I've played with good writing.

First instinct? Bastion I think is well-written, but that's an easy go-to (and I still could be wrong).

I'd need to replay Bastion to evaluate the writing, mostly because however good the writing is, it's outshone by how amazing the delivery is, and any memory I have right now of how well written the lines are is biased by how well every line was delivered by the narrator.

On June 13 2014 00:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
Even disregarding the ending, the big choices really didn't end up mattering that much.

Fake choices are par for the course with Bioware though. I don't know why this suddenly became an issue for people NOW.

If you were gonna complain about fake choices, why didn't they bother people in the first game?
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
June 12 2014 15:41 GMT
#43580
On June 13 2014 00:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 00:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Man I'd really have to go back to see what games I've played with good writing.

First instinct? Bastion I think is well-written, but that's an easy go-to (and I still could be wrong).

I'd need to replay Bastion to evaluate the writing, mostly because however good the writing is, it's outshone by how amazing the delivery is, and any memory I have right now of how well written the lines are is biased by how well every line was delivered by the narrator.



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