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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 12 2014 14:39 GMT
#38621
Oh and speaking of shit in Dark Souls you're given no information on, how in the fuck are you supposed to figure out how covenants work without reading it somewhere? There's other stuff in there too that I feel like nobody would ever know how/what to do unless it was explained---I don't think that's necessarily the hallmark of artificial difficulty per se (especially in an age where information is very quickly widespread, it's possible it may have been done intentionally knowing most if not all players would eventually have access to that information) although then again now that I describe it it certainly sounds as such. Does not explicitly explaining how to do non-basic things in a game count as artificial difficulty or do we expect to be hand-held too much ingame these days?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 12 2014 14:42 GMT
#38622
On May 12 2014 23:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and speaking of shit in Dark Souls you're given no information on, how in the fuck are you supposed to figure out how covenants work without reading it somewhere? There's other stuff in there too that I feel like nobody would ever know how/what to do unless it was explained---I don't think that's necessarily the hallmark of artificial difficulty per se (especially in an age where information is very quickly widespread, it's possible it may have been done intentionally knowing most if not all players would eventually have access to that information) although then again now that I describe it it certainly sounds as such. Does not explicitly explaining how to do non-basic things in a game count as artificial difficulty or do we expect to be hand-held too much ingame these days?


I believe those were some faults they tried to fix in Dark Souls 2 but I haven't played it yet so maybe someone else can say. There's a fine line between omitting too much information and omitting just the right about. For the most part they did it well in Dark Souls but some stuff they definitely missed the mark.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 12 2014 14:44 GMT
#38623
On May 12 2014 23:42 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 23:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and speaking of shit in Dark Souls you're given no information on, how in the fuck are you supposed to figure out how covenants work without reading it somewhere? There's other stuff in there too that I feel like nobody would ever know how/what to do unless it was explained---I don't think that's necessarily the hallmark of artificial difficulty per se (especially in an age where information is very quickly widespread, it's possible it may have been done intentionally knowing most if not all players would eventually have access to that information) although then again now that I describe it it certainly sounds as such. Does not explicitly explaining how to do non-basic things in a game count as artificial difficulty or do we expect to be hand-held too much ingame these days?


I believe those were some faults they tried to fix in Dark Souls 2 but I haven't played it yet so maybe someone else can say. There's a fine line between omitting too much information and omitting just the right about. For the most part they did it well in Dark Souls but some stuff they definitely missed the mark.


I haven't played any DS2 yet (I'll finish DS eventually, probably on stream), but I watched my friend play a little this past weekend. It's pretty as hell and looks so much smoother than DS because the devs didn't half ass the PC port.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 12 2014 14:45 GMT
#38624
dark souls 2 doesn't tell you what your covenant does either, a lot of new players joined the first one they found which immediately changed the game to ng+ without telling you about it.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 12 2014 14:47 GMT
#38625
Dark Souls
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 12 2014 14:48 GMT
#38626
On May 12 2014 23:45 Nos- wrote:
dark souls 2 doesn't tell you what your covenant does either, a lot of new players joined the first one they found which immediately changed the game to ng+ without telling you about it.

What the fuck?
Why would it do that?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
May 12 2014 14:49 GMT
#38627
dark souls is, like, totally all about not telling you how the game works because that's what fun is duh
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 12 2014 14:51 GMT
#38628
Everyone get together with a studybuddy and then talk about the fuck that I don't give
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 14:55:50
May 12 2014 14:52 GMT
#38629
On May 12 2014 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 23:45 Nos- wrote:
dark souls 2 doesn't tell you what your covenant does either, a lot of new players joined the first one they found which immediately changed the game to ng+ without telling you about it.

What the fuck?
Why would it do that?

They put it right in Majula too, so it's basically the first covenant you're likely to encounter, and there is no prerequisites to join. You wouldn't think that it'd fuck you over cause it's in the safe haven of the game but you know, From Soft.

Also I'm pretty sure if you decline to join said covenant the game gives you an achievement that calls you a pussy
Bronze player stuck in platinum
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 12 2014 14:57 GMT
#38630
On May 12 2014 23:52 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 12 2014 23:45 Nos- wrote:
dark souls 2 doesn't tell you what your covenant does either, a lot of new players joined the first one they found which immediately changed the game to ng+ without telling you about it.

What the fuck?
Why would it do that?

They put it right in Majula too, so it's basically the first covenant you're likely to encounter, and there is no prerequisites to join. You wouldn't think that it'd fuck you over cause it's in the safe haven of the game but you know, From Soft.

Also I'm pretty sure if you decline to join said covenant the game gives you an achievement that calls you a pussy

So fucking silly. I totally would have joined that shit too. Can't tell if annoyed that I know this now or relieved.
Oh well I'm sure it'll be ages before I play DS2 anyway.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 12 2014 15:00 GMT
#38631
Apparently that covenant makes it so you can't summon NPCs or blue phantoms but can still be invaded LOL, damn that is one hell of a challenge
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
May 12 2014 15:09 GMT
#38632
On May 12 2014 23:30 Scip wrote:
streaming ranked5s with teut and entenzwerg and co!!
twitch.tv/scipaeus

this is going to be epic

Holy static batman.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 12 2014 15:10 GMT
#38633
www.twitch.tv/entenzwerg
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 12 2014 15:13 GMT
#38634
Saturday night, after we finished DnD, my friends and I played a bunch of Werewolf (it's very similar to mafia, but resolves in ~5 min). It was really fun and interesting watching how our own small meta developed in the couple hours we played.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 15:44:38
May 12 2014 15:44 GMT
#38635
why do i drink on sundays.... the 15 bucks i won playing lord of the rings tcg last night is not worth this suffering.

i think im gonna nap in my car on lunch
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 12 2014 15:47 GMT
#38636
So apparently starting tomorrow, the goal is to try and interview, hire, and train another support person for my company before I go to Italy for 2 weeks.

Should be fun lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 12 2014 15:47 GMT
#38637
On May 12 2014 23:49 Kyrie wrote:
dark souls is, like, totally all about not telling you how the game works because that's what fun is duh

I mean, the game is totally intuitive though.

It's obvious that cutting off tails of certain bosses gives you bonuses, isn't that what you do to mythical creatures with tails anyways?
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 12 2014 15:59 GMT
#38638
On May 12 2014 23:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 23:52 Nos- wrote:
On May 12 2014 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 12 2014 23:45 Nos- wrote:
dark souls 2 doesn't tell you what your covenant does either, a lot of new players joined the first one they found which immediately changed the game to ng+ without telling you about it.

What the fuck?
Why would it do that?

They put it right in Majula too, so it's basically the first covenant you're likely to encounter, and there is no prerequisites to join. You wouldn't think that it'd fuck you over cause it's in the safe haven of the game but you know, From Soft.

Also I'm pretty sure if you decline to join said covenant the game gives you an achievement that calls you a pussy

So fucking silly. I totally would have joined that shit too. Can't tell if annoyed that I know this now or relieved.
Oh well I'm sure it'll be ages before I play DS2 anyway.


Silly?

You don't understand Dark Souls, bro.

That game is designed to make your life miserable. It makes perfect sense.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 12 2014 16:02 GMT
#38639
On May 13 2014 00:59 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 23:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 12 2014 23:52 Nos- wrote:
On May 12 2014 23:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 12 2014 23:45 Nos- wrote:
dark souls 2 doesn't tell you what your covenant does either, a lot of new players joined the first one they found which immediately changed the game to ng+ without telling you about it.

What the fuck?
Why would it do that?

They put it right in Majula too, so it's basically the first covenant you're likely to encounter, and there is no prerequisites to join. You wouldn't think that it'd fuck you over cause it's in the safe haven of the game but you know, From Soft.

Also I'm pretty sure if you decline to join said covenant the game gives you an achievement that calls you a pussy

So fucking silly. I totally would have joined that shit too. Can't tell if annoyed that I know this now or relieved.
Oh well I'm sure it'll be ages before I play DS2 anyway.


Silly?

You don't understand Dark Souls, bro.

That game is designed to make your life miserable. It makes perfect sense.

I want to be the guy, I want to the be boshy, [insert indie platformer here (new one is Slip and that's super cool)], Super Hexagon, Sword of the Stars: The Pit, XCOM (originals), Goldeneye64 etc are games designed to make your life miserable

Dark Souls is just poorly designed
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 12 2014 16:04 GMT
#38640
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It's your boy Guzma!
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