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TheYango
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Requizen
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arb
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zer0das
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On May 07 2014 03:20 Requizen wrote: The first KOTOR is one of my favorite RPGs, but I could never get into the second one. Didn't care about any of the characters or the story for some reason. Maybe I'll give it another shot in the future. Yeah, I beat the 2nd one but it kind of felt like a hollow shell of the first one. At least when it came to the Jedi. The Sith were more interesting, but I felt like some bugs and incompleteness really bogged down the experience for me. Been meaning to go back and play the restoration mod at some point, but hard to motivate myself to do that. I did just start another run of the first game though. I'm going to do an evil run, but I haven't gotten the chance to kill the dude with the creepy eyes yet and my memory is terrible, so can't help arb there. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
The writing quality is a lot better, the characters are more complex, and overall there's more depth to the story, but it's marred by the fact that it's buggy as shit, the combat encounters are basically the same, and all the story depth is rendered moot by the rushed/incomplete ending that Obsidian was forced to put out. The Restoration mod is basically mandatory if you want to not hate the game. That said, for someone experienced in the genre I consider it more worth playing than KotOR 1. KotOR 1 is a great intro to the CRPG genre but basically follows the same formula as every other Bioware RPG, except in the Star Wars universe. It doesn't really have anything new to offer someone who's played BG2, Dragon Age or Mass Effect other than OMG LIGHTSABERS. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:20 Requizen wrote: The first KOTOR is one of my favorite RPGs, but I could never get into the second one. Didn't care about any of the characters or the story for some reason. Maybe I'll give it another shot in the future. I think KOTOR is the better game, but 2 was still good(although Yango pointed me to a mod before I started my playthrough, not sure how much it fixed/how the game was in its original state). One thing I would've liked that wasn't around at the time was the 'carry your previous data into the sequel' thing that Mass Effect did, because it felt silly that the world had to force a story on Revan(I don't want to spoiler much right here because clearly some people are just now going through KOTOR) in order to make the player story work. | ||
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arb
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On May 07 2014 03:22 zer0das wrote: You killed the semi-blind black guy!?!? (or tried to). Man, future Sith in the making. I'm actually really far into the light side, thats basically the only dark side choice i've made yet besides threatening someone for information lolol. I did think about going back through the game and going all Sith choices though. Is this anything like Warhammer 40k DoW2? Where the farther i go into the dark side(chaos) i lose team mates? Or is that not a thing in this game? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:20 arb wrote: Should i be buying equipment from the vendors? Is there alot of random drops in this game that are helpful? Literally never played it before in my life :-| On Taris you shouldn't need them. The items that carry you through Taris are the mod-able weapons/armor, and most of the vendor gear isn't. You should look out for the upgrade parts though. Basically fully-upgraded Prototype Vibroblade is better than any other weapon you can get on Taris. There are a couple buyable items later that are worth it, but given that money isn't unlimited/farm-able in a sensible manner, you don't want to waste too much on early upgrades you'll throw away. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:25 arb wrote: I'm actually really far into the light side, thats basically the only dark side choice i've made yet besides threatening someone for information lolol. I did think about going back through the game and going all Sith choices though. Is this anything like Warhammer 40k DoW2? Where the farther i go into the dark side(chaos) i lose team mates? Or is that not a thing in this game? KOTOR is absolutely worth playing through twice(Light/Dark) at minimum. There's also some not totally insignificant differences in gender choice as well, but that's only if you really want to be completionist about it(pretty predictable what the impact is after you've played through the game). | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
and then + Show Spoiler + you meet the jedi council and the entire game goes down the shitter because of the rushed ending. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:27 TheYango wrote: On Taris you shouldn't need them. The items that carry you through Taris are the mod-able weapons/armor, and most of the vendor gear isn't. You should look out for the upgrade parts though. Basically fully-upgraded Prototype Vibroblade is better than any other weapon you can get on Taris. There are a couple buyable items later that are worth it, but given that money isn't unlimited/farm-able in a sensible manner, you don't want to waste too much on early upgrades you'll throw away. I still have the mod parts and havent went back to my apartment yet, i've mostly been just going straight forward, havent done any side quests besides the one to get the Sith Suit from the drunk bitch in the apartment | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:24 TheYango wrote: KotOR2 is a deeper game, but a lot less polished (as you'd expect from an Obsidian game). The writing quality is a lot better, the characters are more complex, and overall there's more depth to the story, but it's marred by the fact that it's buggy as shit, the combat encounters are basically the same, and all the story depth is rendered moot by the rushed/incomplete ending that Obsidian was forced to put out. The Restoration mod is basically mandatory if you want to not hate the game. That said, for someone experienced in the genre I consider it more worth playing than KotOR 1. KotOR 1 is a great intro to the CRPG genre but basically follows the same formula as every other Bioware RPG, except in the Star Wars universe. It doesn't really have anything new to offer someone who's played BG2, Dragon Age or Mass Effect other than OMG LIGHTSABERS. Maybe I needed to get farther in it to get into it. Like you said, the combat is pretty repetitive (even moreso than the first game, I felt), and I dropped it fairly early on before too much got moving. Either way, it's pretty low priority on my to-play list | ||
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Fusilero
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:24 TheYango wrote:That said, for someone experienced in the genre I consider it more worth playing than KotOR 1. KotOR 1 is a great intro to the CRPG genre but basically follows the same formula as every other Bioware RPG, except in the Star Wars universe. It doesn't really have anything new to offer someone who's played BG2, Dragon Age or Mass Effect other than OMG LIGHTSABERS. Sometimes you just want to add light sabers to something you already like. >_> | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:29 kainzero wrote: man i really liked kotor2 when it came out. i remember staying up late playing that game, it felt way more addictive than the first one. and then + Show Spoiler + you meet the jedi council and the entire game goes down the shitter because of the rushed ending. + Show Spoiler + I hated malachor V, I was near ready to declare kotor 2 one of the best games I ever played then I hit malachor V and the non-existent ending and I just went :C | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:29 arb wrote: I still have the mod parts and havent went back to my apartment yet, i've mostly been just going straight forward, havent done any side quests besides the one to get the Sith Suit from the drunk bitch in the apartment Go use the mod parts. Prototype Vibroblade with full upgrades seriously wrecks everything on Taris. It's basically the best melee weapon prior to Lightsabers, is competitive with them until you get some usable upgrade crystals, and the non-Lightsaber melee weapons better than it either aren't worth the money or are acquired late enough in the game to not matter. | ||
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Kyrie
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On May 07 2014 02:36 NeoIllusions wrote: Yes, GD and the strategy subforum will be more stringent. Consider this spring (summer?) cleaning for TL LoL. Moderation will be more heavy handed henceforth in regards to bad posting. curious on this - will there be some sort of highly visible PSA and clear guidelines on new posting standards? for example, updated rules in the thread OP and a sticky like the current twitch meme warning. i can recall one attempted reform that didn't get anywhere and it'd be a shame if this round failed to bear fruit as well | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:28 red_ wrote: KOTOR is absolutely worth playing through twice(Light/Dark) at minimum. There's also some not totally insignificant differences in gender choice as well, but that's only if you really want to be completionist about it(pretty predictable what the impact is after you've played through the game). Female playthroughs are unbearable because of Carth. Bioware sucks at writing dialogue for any character that has romance dialogue. They make a ~35-year old career soldier who's had a wife and kids before sound like a teenager with a problem talking to girls. Bastila's similarly poorly written for male playthroughs but she has less dialogue and is generally more ignorable. | ||
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Nos-
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Cixah
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IE: Nothing has changed, other than now you curve out better because you have a reason to run Highmanes. | ||
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