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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 10 2014 15:56 GMT
#22821
On February 11 2014 00:09 Sunaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
O&S was fairly easy for me - just a few tries to figure out their skill sets and get around some spammy AI. 4 shotting Ornstein made things fairly easy though.

I hated Capra Demon because I use slower weapons on this character and I think I must have had original Capra because I was constantly stunlocked in the entrance by both dogs. I've never been so infuriated by a solo campaign before


You will either love or hate the 4 Kings then >.> *how far are you?*


found Nito a few days ago and died fairly quickly, haven't picked it up again yet

On February 11 2014 00:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
O&S was fairly easy for me - just a few tries to figure out their skill sets and get around some spammy AI. 4 shotting Ornstein made things fairly easy though.

I hated Capra Demon because I use slower weapons on this character and I think I must have had original Capra because I was constantly stunlocked in the entrance by both dogs. I've never been so infuriated by a solo campaign before

Idk, I don't have internet on my PS3, so it's never been patched or anything, but I never encountered that. Even without the stair trick, he only had like two moves that were both slow and blockable. The dogs were annoying but if you went in that little hallway area to the right, only one reached you at time, and you could kill both with the Halberd strong attack.


Oh, I mean, he was incredibly easy the one time I got past the dogs. It was just me bashing my head into these two dogs stun locking me while capra slowly walked up.

It would have been beyond simple if it was a room any size larger. Idk, I just got tooled by the puppies over and over until I finally was able to get around them.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 16:38:09
February 10 2014 16:37 GMT
#22822
On February 11 2014 00:50 Scip wrote:
Terran was OP until the infamous queen patch.
After the patch you had zergs you never heard of before win tournaments and shit. The infamous "patchzergs"

Same thing happened in HotS after Widow Mine/Hellbat nerfs. Except now it's Protoss in the limelight.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 10 2014 16:43 GMT
#22823
If you guys haven't played demon's souls, I'd recommend finishing dark souls before diving into demon's. The mechanics are pretty much identical and dark souls is an easier game to deal with. There are some pretty dumb ways to dig yourself into a hole too deep to get out of in demon's souls without you even realizing it.

@Soniv you will fight capra demons later (not as a boss) in a wide open area, and he becomes a complete pushover.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 17:05:06
February 10 2014 16:52 GMT
#22824
On February 11 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
If you guys haven't played demon's souls, I'd recommend finishing dark souls before diving into demon's. The mechanics are pretty much identical and dark souls is an easier game to deal with. There are some pretty dumb ways to dig yourself into a hole too deep to get out of in demon's souls without you even realizing it.

@Soniv you will fight capra demons later (not as a boss) in a wide open area, and he becomes a complete pushover.


Yeah, already did. One shotting most mobs in the game is really fun. Great Club +10 too strong.

My next build (either in DS or DS2 if it comes out before I get around to it) will be a dex/faith build. I'm looking forward to going back through the earlier parts of the game now that I understand how the game works.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 10 2014 17:06 GMT
#22825
All of the nope.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 17:12:03
February 10 2014 17:09 GMT
#22826
lol yeah I've done that several times in catacombs Tomb of Giants - someone invaded me at one point and I fortunately managed to avoid his first attack and then one shot him lol

but yeah, wandering down there before I picked up a lantern suuuuuuucked dick
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 10 2014 17:16 GMT
#22827
That gif is wonderful.

"NOPE. NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE."
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 10 2014 17:19 GMT
#22828
I think I killed every single blowdart sniper in Blighttown by having them fall off a cliff as I dash the fuck away. I'm unstoppable.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 10 2014 17:29 GMT
#22829
On February 11 2014 02:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:
That gif is wonderful.

"NOPE. NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE."


Someone needs to add those texts onto that gif.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 10 2014 17:31 GMT
#22830
I don't see what the fuss is about, that guy is a pussy.
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
February 10 2014 17:31 GMT
#22831
On February 11 2014 01:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
If you guys haven't played demon's souls, I'd recommend finishing dark souls before diving into demon's. The mechanics are pretty much identical and dark souls is an easier game to deal with. There are some pretty dumb ways to dig yourself into a hole too deep to get out of in demon's souls without you even realizing it.

@Soniv you will fight capra demons later (not as a boss) in a wide open area, and he becomes a complete pushover.


Yeah, already did. One shotting most mobs in the game is really fun. Great Club +10 too strong.

My next build (either in DS or DS2 if it comes out before I get around to it) will be a dex/faith build. I'm looking forward to going back through the earlier parts of the game now that I understand how the game works.


Too manly for me, I was a coward, and spear/shielded my whole way through both games, and still have no real idea on how many times I died except for a lot.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 10 2014 18:00 GMT
#22832
On February 11 2014 02:31 Sunaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 01:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
If you guys haven't played demon's souls, I'd recommend finishing dark souls before diving into demon's. The mechanics are pretty much identical and dark souls is an easier game to deal with. There are some pretty dumb ways to dig yourself into a hole too deep to get out of in demon's souls without you even realizing it.

@Soniv you will fight capra demons later (not as a boss) in a wide open area, and he becomes a complete pushover.


Yeah, already did. One shotting most mobs in the game is really fun. Great Club +10 too strong.

My next build (either in DS or DS2 if it comes out before I get around to it) will be a dex/faith build. I'm looking forward to going back through the earlier parts of the game now that I understand how the game works.


Too manly for me, I was a coward, and spear/shielded my whole way through both games, and still have no real idea on how many times I died except for a lot.


Well, I often use Shield + Giant Club, with Lightning Halberd as my offhand (Havel's Ring is baller). Usually only 2H club if I shouldn't be getting hit anyway.

I die often, but often enough to prevent me from loving going *smoosh* on all the enemies
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 19:01:09
February 10 2014 18:58 GMT
#22833
On February 11 2014 00:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 00:09 Sunaj wrote:
On February 11 2014 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
O&S was fairly easy for me - just a few tries to figure out their skill sets and get around some spammy AI. 4 shotting Ornstein made things fairly easy though.

I hated Capra Demon because I use slower weapons on this character and I think I must have had original Capra because I was constantly stunlocked in the entrance by both dogs. I've never been so infuriated by a solo campaign before


You will either love or hate the 4 Kings then >.> *how far are you?*


found Nito a few days ago and died fairly quickly, haven't picked it up again yet

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 00:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On February 11 2014 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
O&S was fairly easy for me - just a few tries to figure out their skill sets and get around some spammy AI. 4 shotting Ornstein made things fairly easy though.

I hated Capra Demon because I use slower weapons on this character and I think I must have had original Capra because I was constantly stunlocked in the entrance by both dogs. I've never been so infuriated by a solo campaign before

Idk, I don't have internet on my PS3, so it's never been patched or anything, but I never encountered that. Even without the stair trick, he only had like two moves that were both slow and blockable. The dogs were annoying but if you went in that little hallway area to the right, only one reached you at time, and you could kill both with the Halberd strong attack.


Oh, I mean, he was incredibly easy the one time I got past the dogs. It was just me bashing my head into these two dogs stun locking me while capra slowly walked up.

It would have been beyond simple if it was a room any size larger. Idk, I just got tooled by the puppies over and over until I finally was able to get around them.


The hardest part about Nito is the skeletons, but you don't even have to aggro the big ones and if have any divine weapon the little ones die before Nito even reaches you.

After that, dudes easy. All his attacks are very pronounced and imo easy to dodge. That being said, my first run through was a 2 handed strength build, so I never really used a shield and you can't actually block any of his attacks.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#22834
Aaand I've been awake for more than 24 hours. Nature, why?
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#22835
On February 11 2014 03:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 02:31 Sunaj wrote:
On February 11 2014 01:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
If you guys haven't played demon's souls, I'd recommend finishing dark souls before diving into demon's. The mechanics are pretty much identical and dark souls is an easier game to deal with. There are some pretty dumb ways to dig yourself into a hole too deep to get out of in demon's souls without you even realizing it.

@Soniv you will fight capra demons later (not as a boss) in a wide open area, and he becomes a complete pushover.


Yeah, already did. One shotting most mobs in the game is really fun. Great Club +10 too strong.

My next build (either in DS or DS2 if it comes out before I get around to it) will be a dex/faith build. I'm looking forward to going back through the earlier parts of the game now that I understand how the game works.


Too manly for me, I was a coward, and spear/shielded my whole way through both games, and still have no real idea on how many times I died except for a lot.


Well, I often use Shield + Giant Club, with Lightning Halberd as my offhand (Havel's Ring is baller). Usually only 2H club if I shouldn't be getting hit anyway.

I die often, but often enough to prevent me from loving going *smoosh* on all the enemies


You, poor, poor soul. Giant club is so slow, how do you use it? zz

I'm so used to Dex based builds from the time I was trying to get into PvP that anything slower than Claymore feels clunky to me. Dex/Faith is goddamn annoying, especially PvP-centric Dex/Faith builds with 3+ casts of Wraith of God and maybe a Dorkmoon Blade and Hornets Ring thrown in for a real fuck everyone build.

Dex/Pyro is hilarious as well, more PvE focused, but once you get good with aiming spells yourself chaos pyromancies can do insane damage to players, if you upgrade and ascend the flame. I think I have 2 toons with it fully upgraded right now, with one right after O&S (doesn't need full rotation of spells if I dont hit Smough's hammer iirc) and the other in NG+
Steam: rook492
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 10 2014 19:03 GMT
#22836
I am winning the war.

HS ladder means nothing, but there is a distinct lack of tournaments.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 10 2014 19:05 GMT
#22837
All about the demon's souls blue blood luck build brah
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 10 2014 19:06 GMT
#22838
I dont have a PS3, even though I am seriously considering it just for KH 1.5/2.5 and FFX HD.....
Steam: rook492
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 10 2014 19:11 GMT
#22839
On February 11 2014 04:06 Crusnik wrote:
I dont have a PS3, even though I am seriously considering it just for KH 1.5/2.5 and FFX HD.....

They should be substantially cheaper nowadays, no?
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 10 2014 19:15 GMT
#22840
On February 11 2014 04:02 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 03:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2014 02:31 Sunaj wrote:
On February 11 2014 01:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 11 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
If you guys haven't played demon's souls, I'd recommend finishing dark souls before diving into demon's. The mechanics are pretty much identical and dark souls is an easier game to deal with. There are some pretty dumb ways to dig yourself into a hole too deep to get out of in demon's souls without you even realizing it.

@Soniv you will fight capra demons later (not as a boss) in a wide open area, and he becomes a complete pushover.


Yeah, already did. One shotting most mobs in the game is really fun. Great Club +10 too strong.

My next build (either in DS or DS2 if it comes out before I get around to it) will be a dex/faith build. I'm looking forward to going back through the earlier parts of the game now that I understand how the game works.


Too manly for me, I was a coward, and spear/shielded my whole way through both games, and still have no real idea on how many times I died except for a lot.


Well, I often use Shield + Giant Club, with Lightning Halberd as my offhand (Havel's Ring is baller). Usually only 2H club if I shouldn't be getting hit anyway.

I die often, but often enough to prevent me from loving going *smoosh* on all the enemies


You, poor, poor soul. Giant club is so slow, how do you use it? zz

I'm so used to Dex based builds from the time I was trying to get into PvP that anything slower than Claymore feels clunky to me. Dex/Faith is goddamn annoying, especially PvP-centric Dex/Faith builds with 3+ casts of Wraith of God and maybe a Dorkmoon Blade and Hornets Ring thrown in for a real fuck everyone build.

Dex/Pyro is hilarious as well, more PvE focused, but once you get good with aiming spells yourself chaos pyromancies can do insane damage to players, if you upgrade and ascend the flame. I think I have 2 toons with it fully upgraded right now, with one right after O&S (doesn't need full rotation of spells if I dont hit Smough's hammer iirc) and the other in NG+


Smash R2 has good range, big power, and is the fastest of the Great Club attacks. I use it pretty much exclusively. With Havel's Ring, I can carry Great Club, Shield, Halberd, and some Medium Armor while still having medium roll speeds, so I'm not too clunky.

I'm also pyromancer with like Pyro Gloves + 10 or something right now. I don't use them often (Mostly for titanite demons if I end up struggling for whatever reason).

I don't often PvP, but I'm looking forward to going ninja mode stabby stabby with a dex build.
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