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On December 13 2011 05:50 Haemonculus wrote:
More rhav rage:
It only takes one idiot to lose a game. That's probably my biggest gripe with LoL. So we're bot lane cait and support pirate vs trist/sona. Now trist took ignite/cleanse, and sona took exhaust/heal. That's a very aggressive lane, but neither of them have flash, so ez ganks, right? Play it safe and wait for our jungler to swing by, yes?
Pirate is having none of that. Sona/trist hit lvl2 before us. They warded our bush. Pirate randomly spams pings like a madman on trist and charges in. We are both still level 1. He gets ignited and combo'd down in roughly 1 second. All I can do is auto attack, lol. He immediately starts screaming at me in all caps. "cait wtf why you no go in" etc etc.
He respawns and runs back to lane. The lane is still pushing our direction, and trist/sona are now both level 3. Pirate runs into our bush, and then ALL the way to the very end of our bush. Keep in mind we already saw them ward it. He's behind the creep wave. Surprise surprise, trist/sona dive on his face, (he's still level 1), and explode him again. "CAIT! wtf is wrong with you!!!! you have no idea how to play an offensive lane you fucking newbieeeeeee" etc etc.
He runs back to lane again, and this time charges into *their* bush, as the lane is pushing out slowly now. And once again, he gets instagibbed. He calls me a nigger and quits.
Blah.
Yep, I had a game very similar to this. Our Ashe/Soraka vs Urgot/Taric lane. Ashe claims they can trade dmg because their sustain is better and dies lvl 2 or 3. Then it just snowballs into one of them dying every minute or two. Urgot calls me out as a crappy jungler saying how I don't help a failing lane. I love how people ask for ganks when it's going to be they are oom or low health or one of the duo lane is not there because of death or shop/heal. Our top GP berates our Ashe and everyone's morale is down so it ends quickly.
I hate how people can't play passive when they start feeding. Oh well, luckily it was a game on a friend's account and I'm just spamming ranked for fun. But I was on a huge win stream over the past week or so and gained close to 300 elo. Oh well I'm down two games overall today so nothing too bad.
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I've noticed as a generality that that least popular roles are also the most underappreciated and the ones that get the most flak.
As the poster above me said, people expect the jungler to gank from anywhere, any time, for whatever reason. I've had at least 5 games where someone demanded me to help them gank a lane from the OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MAP. I've also had far too many situations where I go into initiate a gank and the people in my lane just... stand there. They don't help with the fight. They just stay far away and expect you to kill them for you. Then you die and people say you're a bad jungler. Or you manage to get them to burn their Flash any way and they run all the way to their turret and your solo top says "omg why didn't you finish them off ._."
I've also played tank before and I've gotten flak for running away from a 3v5 fight where every opponent was equal/higher level and at full health, as well as running away when I was at 200 HP and rapidly sinking.
Apparently the tank's job is to run in and die even if the team is outnumbered 5 to 3.
We still won that game though, after our team stopped derping and we pushed together instead of scattering about the map waiting for their 5 man ball of death to gank us one at a time.
Tanks and junglers are roles nobody wants to play so I end up doing it any way, but then I have to deal with constant flak from everyone ._.
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On December 15 2011 19:21 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I've noticed as a generality that that least popular roles are also the most underappreciated and the ones that get the most flak.
As the poster above me said, people expect the jungler to gank from anywhere, any time, for whatever reason. I've had at least 5 games where someone demanded me to help them gank a lane from the OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MAP. I've also had far too many situations where I go into initiate a gank and the people in my lane just... stand there. They don't help with the fight. They just stay far away and expect you to kill them for you. Then you die and people say you're a bad jungler. Or you manage to get them to burn their Flash any way and they run all the way to their turret and your solo top says "omg why didn't you finish them off ._."
I've also played tank before and I've gotten flak for running away from a 3v5 fight where every opponent was equal/higher level and at full health, as well as running away when I was at 200 HP and rapidly sinking.
Apparently the tank's job is to run in and die even if the team is outnumbered 5 to 3.
We still won that game though, after our team stopped derping and we pushed together instead of scattering about the map waiting for their 5 man ball of death to gank us one at a time.
Tanks and junglers are roles nobody wants to play so I end up doing it any way, but then I have to deal with constant flak from everyone ._.
Agreed. I'l go 4-1 as Shaco on my first couple ganks, but for w/e reason I didn't show one lane the love. Of course that person dies and then blames me for their death and says I'm a shit jungler. Regardless that I killed 4 people in other lanes. People expect a jungler to be there at the perfect moment whenever they want, like you're their pet only meant for their lane. We have priorities too, getting buffs, helping a pushed lane, dragon, counter-jungling etc.
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I feel like I'm in some bizarro world... every time I play normal games, my teams suck and troll me all game long, and have no idea what they're doing. Every time I play ranked, my team is great and we roll the other team (combined season ratios: 30/12/69 for me, wtf... I usually have teams that cause me to die that many times in one ranked game). I'm terrified this is going to end, and I'm going to be stuck in a never ending abyss of ELO hell, so I don't want to play ranked games. T_T
Also someone "counterpicked" my Ryze with Veigar... lololol. I felt bad for his team.
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On December 15 2011 20:42 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 19:21 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I've noticed as a generality that that least popular roles are also the most underappreciated and the ones that get the most flak.
As the poster above me said, people expect the jungler to gank from anywhere, any time, for whatever reason. I've had at least 5 games where someone demanded me to help them gank a lane from the OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MAP. I've also had far too many situations where I go into initiate a gank and the people in my lane just... stand there. They don't help with the fight. They just stay far away and expect you to kill them for you. Then you die and people say you're a bad jungler. Or you manage to get them to burn their Flash any way and they run all the way to their turret and your solo top says "omg why didn't you finish them off ._."
I've also played tank before and I've gotten flak for running away from a 3v5 fight where every opponent was equal/higher level and at full health, as well as running away when I was at 200 HP and rapidly sinking.
Apparently the tank's job is to run in and die even if the team is outnumbered 5 to 3.
We still won that game though, after our team stopped derping and we pushed together instead of scattering about the map waiting for their 5 man ball of death to gank us one at a time.
Tanks and junglers are roles nobody wants to play so I end up doing it any way, but then I have to deal with constant flak from everyone ._. Agreed. I'l go 4-1 as Shaco on my first couple ganks, but for w/e reason I didn't show one lane the love. Of course that person dies and then blames me for their death and says I'm a shit jungler. Regardless that I killed 4 people in other lanes. People expect a jungler to be there at the perfect moment whenever they want, like you're their pet only meant for their lane. We have priorities too, getting buffs, helping a pushed lane, dragon, counter-jungling etc.
Thats why I ignore the morons that blame me for failing as a jungler unless im playing like a tard. jungling is sometimes hard enough as it is trying to get off good ganks without that one moron thats pushing his lane hard and bitching about not getting a gank
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I love jungling. I carry so hard with Rammus all the time. What I hate is when some jackass instalocks Nocturne with smite and doesn't speak english. So then they just spend the whole time AFK farming creeps and don't do anything to help the other lanes when I know I could have gone beast.
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On December 16 2011 02:05 zer0das wrote:
I feel like I'm in some bizarro world... every time I play normal games, my teams suck and troll me all game long, and have no idea what they're doing. Every time I play ranked, my team is great and we roll the other team (combined season ratios: 30/12/69 for me, wtf... I usually have teams that cause me to die that many times in one ranked game). I'm terrified this is going to end, and I'm going to be stuck in a never ending abyss of ELO hell, so I don't want to play ranked games. T_T
Also someone "counterpicked" my Ryze with Veigar... lololol. I felt bad for his team.
It's not like Ryze dominates Veigar or anything. They're both weak/squishy early game that scale hard into lategame and become monsters, Ryze with constant damage and Veigar with the strongest burst in the game. I get that Ryze seems like a good pick vs Veigar because he loses a lot of the power of his ult + Banshee's Veil is part of Ryze's core, but I don't think it matters that much. Ryze also loses out on a lot of his power (sustained damage + spellvamp keeping him alive forever) because Veigar is all about stun + BOOM DEAD, he doesn't get into long fights which is where Ryze shines.
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On December 15 2011 19:21 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I've noticed as a generality that that least popular roles are also the most underappreciated and the ones that get the most flak.
As the poster above me said, people expect the jungler to gank from anywhere, any time, for whatever reason. I've had at least 5 games where someone demanded me to help them gank a lane from the OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MAP. I've also had far too many situations where I go into initiate a gank and the people in my lane just... stand there. They don't help with the fight. They just stay far away and expect you to kill them for you. Then you die and people say you're a bad jungler. Or you manage to get them to burn their Flash any way and they run all the way to their turret and your solo top says "omg why didn't you finish them off ._."
I've also played tank before and I've gotten flak for running away from a 3v5 fight where every opponent was equal/higher level and at full health, as well as running away when I was at 200 HP and rapidly sinking.
Apparently the tank's job is to run in and die even if the team is outnumbered 5 to 3.
We still won that game though, after our team stopped derping and we pushed together instead of scattering about the map waiting for their 5 man ball of death to gank us one at a time.
Tanks and junglers are roles nobody wants to play so I end up doing it any way, but then I have to deal with constant flak from everyone ._.
You could not have described my last game better if you tried.
Was jungling Trundle and I was ganking top and bottom and even secured 2 kills for our gp at top. So there really isnt much time for me to gank mid as I need to jungle to not become too underlvled, Our mid (ahri) gets ganked eventually and then she erupts into rage, a solid 20 minutes of it. Ends up just not giving a shit for the rest of the game and so we lose.
I can't explain how many times this happens, it seems when you jungle you should be ganking mid and bot and top all at the same time to satisfy your team.
And to your point on Tanks getting flak from their teams I feel like they do but just not to the extent that junglers get. And usually if tanks are getting raged at it is because they initiate into one of those dumb 3v5.
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On December 16 2011 04:00 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:05 zer0das wrote:
I feel like I'm in some bizarro world... every time I play normal games, my teams suck and troll me all game long, and have no idea what they're doing. Every time I play ranked, my team is great and we roll the other team (combined season ratios: 30/12/69 for me, wtf... I usually have teams that cause me to die that many times in one ranked game). I'm terrified this is going to end, and I'm going to be stuck in a never ending abyss of ELO hell, so I don't want to play ranked games. T_T
Also someone "counterpicked" my Ryze with Veigar... lololol. I felt bad for his team. It's not like Ryze dominates Veigar or anything. They're both weak/squishy early game that scale hard into lategame and become monsters, Ryze with constant damage and Veigar with the strongest burst in the game. I get that Ryze seems like a good pick vs Veigar because he loses a lot of the power of his ult + Banshee's Veil is part of Ryze's core, but I don't think it matters that much. Ryze also loses out on a lot of his power (sustained damage + spellvamp keeping him alive forever) because Veigar is all about stun + BOOM DEAD, he doesn't get into long fights which is where Ryze shines.
Veigar has to farm with his q to be relevant midgame.... Ryze... doesn't. Veigar is mana hungry, Ryze has lots of mana. Q him every time he gets near creeps, he'll lose (his q is also on 2x the cooldown at level 1 and at a lower range).. He was porting back at level 2, buying a lot of pots, and needing ganks constantly (which almost got him and Amumu killed repeatedly). I was at a nearly full compliment of mana items, he had like boots 2, DFG, and a blasting wand, not to mention like no farm. He couldn't really combo anyone dead.
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On December 16 2011 04:00 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 02:05 zer0das wrote:
I feel like I'm in some bizarro world... every time I play normal games, my teams suck and troll me all game long, and have no idea what they're doing. Every time I play ranked, my team is great and we roll the other team (combined season ratios: 30/12/69 for me, wtf... I usually have teams that cause me to die that many times in one ranked game). I'm terrified this is going to end, and I'm going to be stuck in a never ending abyss of ELO hell, so I don't want to play ranked games. T_T
Also someone "counterpicked" my Ryze with Veigar... lololol. I felt bad for his team. It's not like Ryze dominates Veigar or anything. They're both weak/squishy early game that scale hard into lategame and become monsters, Ryze with constant damage and Veigar with the strongest burst in the game. I get that Ryze seems like a good pick vs Veigar because he loses a lot of the power of his ult + Banshee's Veil is part of Ryze's core, but I don't think it matters that much. Ryze also loses out on a lot of his power (sustained damage + spellvamp keeping him alive forever) because Veigar is all about stun + BOOM DEAD, he doesn't get into long fights which is where Ryze shines.
Ryze shits on Veigar cause he has a no CD insane range point and click nuke.
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Do people just like not comprehend the mechanics of Sivir's shield? I mean it's really really easy she blocks a spell and she gets mana. This means random idiot Caitlyn DON'T TRAP THE DAMN BRUSHES HOLYSHIT! She auto lost the lane for us because Sivir had pretty much infinite mana to poke with Q. I even told them to stop trapping the bush, explained the mechanic but no just.....
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Hello again 1150 elo.
Intentional feeders, idiots and so much rage everywhere.
Next game I go in to I am not saying anything aside from my roles at champ select and MIAs
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I'm posting in this thread because I recently lost a close game and it made me angry.
Glad I got that off my chest.
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I swear, playing league wasn't even worth my time today.
Every game: Volibear (free bear week!), Wukong (free monkey week!), Ahri (hurrrr why take a brand new champ to a custom or bot game to learn her skills?), and usually 1 other decent player.
I said screw trying to support, just played Jungle Shyvana and carried as hard as I could.
Funniest line of the day -- "Your f***ing fault I lost lane you garbage jungle." -- the 0/7/0 Wukong to my 10/1/3 Shyv. He never got ganked as I kept killing the enemy Udyr every time he headed top. Who did he lose lane to? Another free Wukong.
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today I learned that given a choice between following pings and your better judgment, ALWAYS go with your own judgment.
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I hate teams who lose 5v4s because literally EVERY ONE OF THEM were complete morons. You can't carry four people as Vlad, even if you have 14 kills compared to your team's combined 6. -_-
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I love playing leona but for serious you cannot depend on soloQ carries to do their fucking job and do damage. FUCK SoloQ pisses me off so much people demanding carry rolls then fucking sucking at it...Oh yea im Anniva mid vs annie and ima get face rollllleed...lets ignore the fact that I requested Karthus Mid 1st and most likely would have NOT fed the annie like Aniniva did but no ignore me and autolock w/o saying a word. God I hate the games where im last pick.
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We have a singed top, last pick autolocks free week wukong and calls top, then proceeds to afk in fountain. Our Skarner and Sivir are pissed that he afk so they leave the game leaving just 2 of us playing, we almost win we're up like 11 to 1 on kills and pushed down 2 towers in exchange for giving them free bot since we only had 2 players, then they got smart and grouped up to push one lane 5v2 and won. Gotta Love Elo Hell
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I just had that happen, 1 afker leads to 2 leads to 3....I got all the kills (7) for my team as Karthus. woot fucking woot. 10 game Karthus winning streak BROKEN.
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Last pick Veigar support decides to take all the farm, can't stun, feeds gangplank.
sigh.
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