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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 23:55:13
December 10 2011 23:20 GMT
#1761
Stuck in ELO hell, I grind up to ~1300 winning even with leavers and feeders, then everytime I get a chain of combo leavers,+feeders+trolls or just really bad people and drop back to 1100, read all the damn guides on how to get out of elo hell but can't manage to do it

Is it worth it to dodge if your team is obviously retarded during draft? Or take the risk and play it out?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
December 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#1762
Imo, it's worth dodging.

From my experience, if you are losing badly your team will surrender 20, and if it's denied they will just afk. Plus if you wait 5 mins, you will certainly not see your old teammates again because the requeue is instant so they wont have time to cancel after a dodge.

Also, dont bother reading guides, that story about you not deserving the win if you cant carry 4 idiots vs 5 idiots is false, the enemy team never has 5 idiots when they are doing well and not being consumed by rage.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 11 2011 00:07 GMT
#1763
just focus on what you can improve on, even in games where people go 16-0-x they still make mistakes that they could have improved to make the game smoother
nobody's perfect, its just a test to see who can get close to as possible
Hey! Listen!
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
December 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#1764
On December 11 2011 07:44 koreasilver wrote:
laners need to learn to ward their own lanes. You can't expect the support and jungler to ward everything. I'm sorry, but it's actually physically impossible for me to be present in more than one lane at a time as a jungler. I'm not God.

Someone cussed me out because I didn't go to his lane the instant he asked me to. I had no health pots, was down to 100 health, and just finished double golems. He was in top lane.

He was my roommate.

Suffice to say, I don't play with my roommate as often as I used to.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 00:29:18
December 11 2011 00:28 GMT
#1765
On December 11 2011 08:59 Deltablazy wrote:
Imo, it's worth dodging.

From my experience, if you are losing badly your team will surrender 20, and if it's denied they will just afk. Plus if you wait 5 mins, you will certainly not see your old teammates again because the requeue is instant so they wont have time to cancel after a dodge.

Also, dont bother reading guides, that story about you not deserving the win if you cant carry 4 idiots vs 5 idiots is false, the enemy team never has 5 idiots when they are doing well and not being consumed by rage.


Just seems like no matter how hard I carry we still lose, I'm talking about games where I go 10+/0 winning my lane and a second lane and still losing because the 3rd lane I couldn't carry as well feed them better than 10+/0

Losing games when I'm 21-2-16 makes me wonder why I even bother playing this game
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
ninjakingcola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 01:33:05
December 11 2011 01:30 GMT
#1766
On December 11 2011 09:28 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:59 Deltablazy wrote:
Imo, it's worth dodging.

From my experience, if you are losing badly your team will surrender 20, and if it's denied they will just afk. Plus if you wait 5 mins, you will certainly not see your old teammates again because the requeue is instant so they wont have time to cancel after a dodge.

Also, dont bother reading guides, that story about you not deserving the win if you cant carry 4 idiots vs 5 idiots is false, the enemy team never has 5 idiots when they are doing well and not being consumed by rage.


Just seems like no matter how hard I carry we still lose, I'm talking about games where I go 10+/0 winning my lane and a second lane and still losing because the 3rd lane I couldn't carry as well feed them better than 10+/0

Losing games when I'm 21-2-16 makes me wonder why I even bother playing this game



Never dodge, it's not worth the elo loss. No matter how retarded your team may seem in que, or how horrid your comp may be there is always ALWAYS a chance to win. I've climbed my way from sub 1000 to 1350 elo (I don't plan on stopping either) by playing smart and convincing my teammates to never give up and to never surrender. At this Elo, games are so full of randomness that even a team that's completely dominating can end up throwing it by being overconfident. Just relax, play some music you enjoy while you play, and play your best role to the best of your ability. If you lose, look back and see what you could have improved on, how you could have prevented bad engagements or coordinated your team more efficiently. It is rough losing with a crazy good K/D ratio and you will have uncarryable games, but having your whole team play well is more important than carrying. If you can, try to coordinate and talk them through what they need to be doing if they obviously aren't. (Try not to rage if at all possible, it drags down the mood of everyone in the game and makes them want to get out of the game more than win it)
Where my demons hide? Why, if I showed you it wouldn't be a secret my dear.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
December 11 2011 03:14 GMT
#1767
I dunno, I tend to check top lane consistently and if its pushing and has more cs I make a point to get a ward for him asap.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 11 2011 07:29 GMT
#1768
Going to punch everyone in the face.

that is all
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Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
December 11 2011 10:51 GMT
#1769
I fucking hate kids who will only play one champion, I mean come on its not that fucking hard to play other champs as well. But if your going to only play a champ make sure that you are good with them and not just sit there and feed the entire fucking game. I also hate those douche bags who as soon as we get to the draft screen they demand that they play a role. I mean come on you can fucking ask for once u selfish douche. Also to the asshole who thinks manners are for kinder-gardeners and arent for the modern world come talk to me in a few years and we will see if manners are still important.
Whatever happens, happens
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 11 2011 14:44 GMT
#1770
On December 11 2011 19:51 Son of Gnome wrote:
I fucking hate kids who will only play one champion, I mean come on its not that fucking hard to play other champs as well. But if your going to only play a champ make sure that you are good with them and not just sit there and feed the entire fucking game. I also hate those douche bags who as soon as we get to the draft screen they demand that they play a role. I mean come on you can fucking ask for once u selfish douche. Also to the asshole who thinks manners are for kinder-gardeners and arent for the modern world come talk to me in a few years and we will see if manners are still important.

haha I love the irony

in other news, I can't wait for Riven free week to be over. I can't count the number of times someone takes my Riven and proceeds to build Warmogs.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 16:55:01
December 11 2011 15:43 GMT
#1771
Revive/tele Kat on our team. Gonna be a good one lol

Same player in next game... and autolocks Kayle? o.O

edit: Vaosdfaweoufasd enemy team is karthus kennen fiddle leona vayne. Our support player has the option of picking JANNA which would you know, fucking hard counter that. He autolocks taric instead. T_T
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 16:56:55
December 11 2011 16:24 GMT
#1772
Why hasn't hsgg been streaming? Doublelifts stream is boring

What? I accidentally posted this in qq thread. Thought I had general discussion open
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
December 11 2011 17:15 GMT
#1773
Maybe, just maybe because he is/was at WCG? --;
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 11 2011 21:41 GMT
#1774
TO SOLO Q RETARDS:

I don't care if you "won ur lane", which you define as killing him twice. You still let singed farm 200 creeps, and you still let him take your tower.

I don't fucking care if you "won your lane". You were top farming while all 5 of them pushed mid. You stayed up top farming while they took the inhib. Fuck you.

I don't fucking care if you "have a positive score". You never showed up to team fights.

People do the absolute stupidest shit ever, and then bitch and moan at the team and think they did well because their kills > their deaths, even if they have a whopping 0 assists. Bllahhhghghgh.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
December 11 2011 21:44 GMT
#1775
On December 11 2011 09:07 Navi wrote:
just focus on what you can improve on, even in games where people go 16-0-x they still make mistakes that they could have improved to make the game smoother
nobody's perfect, its just a test to see who can get close to as possible


While its generally productive to keep this attitude, you have to admit, at all elo ratings, people do things/ behave in a manner so retarded that at some point, you really start to feel its pointless to play this game .__.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
December 11 2011 22:05 GMT
#1776
On December 12 2011 06:41 Haemonculus wrote:
TO SOLO Q RETARDS:

I don't care if you "won ur lane", which you define as killing him twice. You still let singed farm 200 creeps, and you still let him take your tower.

I don't fucking care if you "won your lane". You were top farming while all 5 of them pushed mid. You stayed up top farming while they took the inhib. Fuck you.

I don't fucking care if you "have a positive score". You never showed up to team fights.

People do the absolute stupidest shit ever, and then bitch and moan at the team and think they did well because their kills > their deaths, even if they have a whopping 0 assists. Bllahhhghghgh.

I nominate Rhav for Queen of the QQ Thread.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 11 2011 22:10 GMT
#1777
I wasn't already? I use this thread more than Shikyo. Should rename it after me imoimoimo
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 11 2011 22:11 GMT
#1778
On December 12 2011 07:10 Haemonculus wrote:
I wasn't already? I use this thread more than Shikyo. Should rename it after me imoimoimo


I want to see how you'd act if you duo ranked with Tap, lol :D
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 11 2011 22:26 GMT
#1779
On December 12 2011 07:11 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:10 Haemonculus wrote:
I wasn't already? I use this thread more than Shikyo. Should rename it after me imoimoimo


I want to see how you'd act if you duo ranked with Tap, lol :D

I love playing with tap. Its like literally the most fun you can have.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 11 2011 22:26 GMT
#1780
On December 12 2011 07:10 Haemonculus wrote:
I wasn't already? I use this thread more than Shikyo. Should rename it after me imoimoimo


We might be able to work something out. It is good to give recognition to the top QQers for their generous donations to the thread.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
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