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Ight time to qq about a recent loss. But not just any qq, a constructive qq with the goal to understand the rules of the blame game.
So all of my team lanes are getting dominated, but eveybody on the team has the same amount of deaths. I'm playing as Sivir. Fids our jungler did something like 3 ganks. He ganked bot twice (my lane) but we didn't succeed in getting any kills. Then he ganks top once and gets a kill (not like garen is hard to gank when he doesn't expect it and pushes hard).
So in one of the ganks at bot, we manage to force the enemy graves to back to the fountain and we opt to go drag. We start and comes in the enemy heim, but our cass is coming so it's a 4v1 situation in our favor. Heim baits out cass' ult but we failed to kill him and in comes enemy jungler skarner. In comes graves and alistar. The enemy manages to kill 3 of my teammates and I manage to escape. We lose mid tower. Duno about drag.
Next we are pretty much losing but it's a 4v3 situation at bot tower in our advantage. Enemy alistar initiates and I pop my ult. Suddenly we get bursted down and my fids and cass dont ult. 4 deaths on our team at bot and we lose tower.
As I said earlier, we were all equal in deaths and the enemy team was mostly equal in kills. Suddenly I'm the one being blamed. But we have the same amount of deaths and I have the most cs. What gives? I blame fids for not being able to get kills at bot lane when he ganked and that he made us lose a big battle at drag because he's the one who suggested doing it.
But my whole team comes to his defense and blames me.
So here I am, help me TL to solve the mystery of the blame game.
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On December 06 2011 04:28 Deltablazy wrote:
Ight time to qq about a recent loss. But not just any qq, a constructive qq with the goal to understand the rules of the blame game.
So all of my team lanes are getting dominated, but eveybody on the team has the same amount of deaths. I'm playing as Sivir. Fids our jungler did something like 3 ganks. He ganked bot twice (my lane) but we didn't succeed in getting any kills. Then he ganks top once and gets a kill (not like garen is hard to gank when he doesn't expect it and pushes hard).
So in one of the ganks at bot, we manage to force the enemy graves to back to the fountain and we opt to go drag. We start and comes in the enemy heim, but our cass is coming so it's a 4v1 situation in our favor. Heim baits out cass' ult but we failed to kill him and in comes enemy jungler skarner. In comes graves and alistar. The enemy manages to kill 3 of my teammates and I manage to escape. We lose mid tower. Duno about drag.
Next we are pretty much losing but it's a 4v3 situation at bot tower in our advantage. Enemy alistar initiates and I pop my ult. Suddenly we get bursted down and my fids and cass dont ult. 4 deaths on our team at bot and we lose tower.
As I said earlier, we were all equal in deaths and the enemy team was mostly equal in kills. Suddenly I'm the one being blamed. But we have the same amount of deaths and I have the most cs. What gives? I blame fids for not being able to get kills at bot lane when he ganked and that he made us lose a big battle at drag because he's the one who suggested doing it.
But my whole team comes to his defense and blames me.
So here I am, help me TL to solve the mystery of the blame game.
probably had a premade or they just were blaming you cuz you were sivir and shes a quote "bad character". just ignore it and play your game people are idiots and dont want to admit their own faults even though part of the loss was their own fault
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It sucks how on a team when the rest of you play brilliantly, one bonehead decision will still lose the game against an underfed team.
Wukong hitting your nexus turrets, about 500 hp. Xerath running away, about 1000 HP. Who does garen choose to chase? I'll let you guys figure that one out.
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Two inhibitors down. Minions attacking nexus turrets. We kill one enemy and the same brilliant player who called us to do Baron twice, (one time 5 were up, the other 4 were up, I'm the only one who pulled out when the enemy started coming for us, both times its gets stolen and we get aced) decides its now or never push mid. I followed our caller into another ace and ultimately we lost the game on that call. What do I do when some one self elects them selves the caller and is making obvious bad calls?
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On December 06 2011 04:38 Kyhron wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 04:28 Deltablazy wrote:
Ight time to qq about a recent loss. But not just any qq, a constructive qq with the goal to understand the rules of the blame game.
So all of my team lanes are getting dominated, but eveybody on the team has the same amount of deaths. I'm playing as Sivir. Fids our jungler did something like 3 ganks. He ganked bot twice (my lane) but we didn't succeed in getting any kills. Then he ganks top once and gets a kill (not like garen is hard to gank when he doesn't expect it and pushes hard).
So in one of the ganks at bot, we manage to force the enemy graves to back to the fountain and we opt to go drag. We start and comes in the enemy heim, but our cass is coming so it's a 4v1 situation in our favor. Heim baits out cass' ult but we failed to kill him and in comes enemy jungler skarner. In comes graves and alistar. The enemy manages to kill 3 of my teammates and I manage to escape. We lose mid tower. Duno about drag.
Next we are pretty much losing but it's a 4v3 situation at bot tower in our advantage. Enemy alistar initiates and I pop my ult. Suddenly we get bursted down and my fids and cass dont ult. 4 deaths on our team at bot and we lose tower.
As I said earlier, we were all equal in deaths and the enemy team was mostly equal in kills. Suddenly I'm the one being blamed. But we have the same amount of deaths and I have the most cs. What gives? I blame fids for not being able to get kills at bot lane when he ganked and that he made us lose a big battle at drag because he's the one who suggested doing it.
But my whole team comes to his defense and blames me.
So here I am, help me TL to solve the mystery of the blame game. probably had a premade or they just were blaming you cuz you were sivir and shes a quote "bad character". just ignore it and play your game people are idiots and dont want to admit their own faults even though part of the loss was their own fault
It was ranked btw. But yea, they couldn't afford to admit their mistakes.
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On December 06 2011 05:05 Sabin010 wrote:
Two inhibitors down. Minions attacking nexus turrets. We kill one enemy and the same brilliant player who called us to do Baron twice, (one time 5 were up, the other 4 were up, I'm the only one who pulled out when the enemy started coming for us, both times its gets stolen and we get aced) decides its now or never push mid. I followed our caller into another ace and ultimately we lost the game on that call. What do I do when some one self elects them selves the caller and is making obvious bad calls?
Say no and dont follow them. Yeah you may get some flak but when people realize hey this guys and idiot/making bad calls theyll stop following him to and you can usually salvage the game somewhat. I had a game a bit ago where our panth was roaming and failing really hard calling everyone noobs including me when he tried ganking with their malz at 75% health and sitting on their tower and i told him to gtfo. some people are just bad leaders and others are just bad at making calls on the fly or misinterperate the situation. best thing to do is play the safe route and definitely not baron with 5 up unless youre damn sure you can get it fast
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See I have tried that as well, and when 4 guys get killed cause they were all chasing singed or something stupid. The team idiot goes, "OMFG WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN AND FOLLOW THE TEAM WE COULD HAVE BLAH BLAH BLAH".
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next time i see an ashe build boots of swiftness, i will kill him
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I find it much more annoying to see people get berserker's greaves on champs that are OBVIOUSLY not autoattackers like Pantheon, Riven, and atm Talon (since he's free).
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On December 06 2011 05:51 emucxg wrote:
next time i see an ashe build boots of swiftness, i will kill him
god this sooo much, if I ever find the guy who selects the recommended items at riot I swear to god I'll slap him in the face with a shovel. WHY.
Also, I dont know why I keep playing this game T.T
I'm pretty bad, but I dont know how I ever fell this low. People never ever buy a single ward, not even possible to have a semi decent teamcomp (aka every game people instalock three solo top champions), nobody ever thinks about what they buy, or what they do, never listen to calls, never watch the map aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
A few hours ago I had the first two picks instalock Malphite and Poppy after banning vlad and karma. Then Poppy Ashe bot proceeded to feed twich up to 15/0 in FUCKING 14 MINUTES THATS RIGHT MORE THAN ONE KILL/MINUTE. I dont even know how they managed to get back in lane fast enough to feed him that hard.
It's just not fun anymore, like on 80% of the game I feel that whatever I do it has no outcome on the game result because one of the two teams has someone too fucking retarded for me to do any difference.
edit: Also, fuck this wukong who got shat on by trynda solo top and refused to buy any armor all game long -_-
edit2: gggnnnnhhhhhh, guy picks last, says "me solo top" after first pick already locked cho'gath. then asks "should I play support" followed by "Fuck you you dont tell me what to pick", picks GP, steals half of ashe's cs and builds two tiamats.
god, it's like EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME, there a retard in either team who decides of the outcome of the game regardless of the rest of the teams.
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On December 06 2011 06:06 koreasilver wrote:
I find it much more annoying to see people get berserker's greaves on champs that are OBVIOUSLY not autoattackers like Pantheon, Riven, and atm Talon (since he's free).
I find it more annoying when you get flamed for building merc treds on those champs cuz theyre a "tank boots" and dps shouldnt build them
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oh and on a rage note I hate people that bitch about grouping up then go jungle. had a game where i got our ez pretty fed as malphite while pushing their karma/graves lane tower in 9 minutes. proceed to go apeshit on their mid and jungle twitch to the point i was godlike and literally pushing their team back while our akali and yi did absolutely nothing and ez built tforce a bilgwater cutlass and lw when they built massive amounts of health. it was very upsetting to lose when we were up nearly 20 kills and could have one it if people built damage instead of crap and followed when i initiated
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To be fair if Ez gets one phage proc on a guy with that Triforce, he can kill him.
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On December 06 2011 07:08 Kyhron wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 06:06 koreasilver wrote:
I find it much more annoying to see people get berserker's greaves on champs that are OBVIOUSLY not autoattackers like Pantheon, Riven, and atm Talon (since he's free). I find it more annoying when you get flamed for building merc treds on those champs cuz theyre a "tank boots" and dps shouldnt build them
I still find it very surprising that so many people don't pick up how good tabi and treads are on melee heroes by the time they can start playing ranked games.
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On December 06 2011 07:19 Sabin010 wrote:
To be fair if Ez gets one phage proc on a guy with that Triforce, he can kill him.
no he couldnt the other team was building a lot of health and this ez wasnt very good with landing his q and there was a lot of times he got a proc and they just walked away from him or killed him
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OK so I queue up and pick Kassadin. Though I main AP carries mid I've played him very little and figure I may as well try him out before free week is up. The other 4 people on my team are Xin Zao, Shyvana, Volibear and Ashe. When I suggest in queue that someone jungle, especially Volibear, I'm told "Nah bro. Lane bear." Game starts, and the other mid is... Kog'Maw. He starts with his W and zones me out easily; I ask to switch lanes with Ashe botlane, who is with Volibear.
I go bot and gank with Volibear, we get a kill but Volibear is left wih 15% health. I ping for him to go back, and he says "no." I say he needs to go back with such low health. He says "if you ping again I will feed." Shaking my head I continue playing until their jungler goes missing from mid. PING, I till him to go back, jungler is missing and he's critically low health. "OKAY YOU ASKED FOR IT," he dives the tower. 20 minute surrender incoming, I think. The rest of our team is doing OK, though, so it's not out of reach.
He proceeds to feed 20 more consecutive kills by right-clicking their Nexus every time he spawns-- but that's getting ahead of the story. After his 5th feed people are saying "report volibear," and I said "surrender at 20." He says "you might have some trouble with that surrender. also, KASSADIN MADE ME FEED. HE PINGED!" Other team and everyone on our team except Shyvana is going "wtf, what a trollbear." At 20 minutes I try to initiate surrender... and it's 3/2. He yells gleefully something along the lines of"I'M DUO-QUEING! YOU CAN'T LEAVE! #$%^ YOU KASSADIN"
I refuse to be trolled and tell him that since I'm not experienced with Kassadin, I'm not mad, this is just good training for how to play Kass from behind. At about the 35 minute mark it's 22-45 in their favor, with Voli going 2-22. He and his buddy refuse to surrender, so we keep playing. INCREDIBLY, the other team is so bad at that about 50 minutes (40-56) we have a chance to win; 2 of theirs are dead to 1 of ours (Shyvana). Volibear decides to stop trolling and helps initiate as I ping Baron maniacally and we get it. I say to retreat and buy then push mid, Volibear instead charges in with my teammates behind... straight into 3 champs chaining CC and killing Ash instantly, then Voli, then chasing me down in river and killing me.
Voli and his buddy say "FUCKING NOOBS! WE HAD CHANCE TO WIN AND YOURE SO BAD WE LOST ANYWAYS!" Enemy team takes out our Nexus. 55 minutes of my life gone. Facepalm.
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People have NO IDEA how to play against Twitch and it's extremely frustrating.
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sigh... i go 0-0-2 as trist with good farm (nearly 200 at 22 mins) before the game gets late and team just ups and decides to surrender. this is the first time i've ever had a premature surrender and it drops me below 1600's. i'm freefalling in elo guys -_-
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just lost a game where we had all towers up and they had 3 inhibs down.
amumu and cho on the other team with 200+ armor, caitlyn on our team saying that last whisper is a worthless item, and keeps dying also.
i'm sion and get focused hard every fight, with their entire team diving at me, and caitlyn does no damage to cho, and vayne 1 shots her along with the rest of my team.
also, they had no fucking idea how to split up or stay alive. Everyone is convinced that sona is the one we should be focusing and they always ace us 5 for 0.
eventually their inhibs respawn and they just walk up and kill us under tower because last whisper is a shit item apparently.
i was the only AP on our team, and sion can't do shit when everyone ignores your dumbass ADs and goes for you to pop your shield.
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Seriously, is this fucking feed the opponent top week?
Past 7-8 games the allied top player always feeds like 5-7 kills, then the opponent top snowballs and kills everything.
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