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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12059 Posts
October 27 2012 16:43 GMT
#5901
Firstpick Morde is the worst. If you get him, you already lost the game. Not only because morde firstpick is retarded, but also because only a very special kind of person firstpicks morde, and they are not the kind of person that makes your team win.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 18:36:22
October 27 2012 18:30 GMT
#5902
Man i don't get some people. We had this ziggs who last picked and said mid after ryze was locked so he went and kept feeding the team. Eventually he's like 1/25/3 and we win the game. Hardest game of my life man. That guy must feel so shit about himself, tries his hardest to throw the game but still ends up winning. That's like the ultimate failure in life.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 27 2012 21:37 GMT
#5903
On October 28 2012 01:43 Simberto wrote:
Firstpick Morde is the worst. If you get him, you already lost the game. Not only because morde firstpick is retarded, but also because only a very special kind of person firstpicks morde, and they are not the kind of person that makes your team win.


Ahh. Too true.

Also, random question. Who is the toplane equivalent of FP Morde? Other than FP toplane morde.
Freeeeeeedom
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
October 27 2012 21:40 GMT
#5904
On October 28 2012 06:37 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 01:43 Simberto wrote:
Firstpick Morde is the worst. If you get him, you already lost the game. Not only because morde firstpick is retarded, but also because only a very special kind of person firstpicks morde, and they are not the kind of person that makes your team win.


Ahh. Too true.

Also, random question. Who is the toplane equivalent of FP Morde? Other than FP toplane morde.

Garen.
Some will probably argue against it, but I'm yet to see a Garen who didn't fail horribly.
"My spoon is too big."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 27 2012 21:42 GMT
#5905
On October 28 2012 06:40 Antyee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 06:37 cLutZ wrote:
On October 28 2012 01:43 Simberto wrote:
Firstpick Morde is the worst. If you get him, you already lost the game. Not only because morde firstpick is retarded, but also because only a very special kind of person firstpicks morde, and they are not the kind of person that makes your team win.


Ahh. Too true.

Also, random question. Who is the toplane equivalent of FP Morde? Other than FP toplane morde.

Garen.
Some will probably argue against it, but I'm yet to see a Garen who didn't fail horribly.

I'm 100% win ratio with top lane Garen

Of course, I don't pick him into bad matchups, but I've FPed him before.
It's your boy Guzma!
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 03:21:50
October 27 2012 21:47 GMT
#5906
Seriously, some people...

We were doing quite well last game, the enemy Jax got a few kills but i was still easily ahead of all opponents as Vayne which should have translated into an easy lategame victory...

but our 10/5 Fizz decides to always run around in unsafe areas, got killed and then said "Jax is so fed", not understanding that he was the one feeding. Yeah, he was ok early on but he went from 10/5 30 minutes in to 11/10 at the end of the game, in one case even forcing us to let the enemy take baron and an inhibitor.

At the start i was only annoyed at my Blitz support missing 9 out of 10 grabs but all my (silent) anger focussed on Fizz when he started his solo adventures. After that "Yup, Jax is fed" adventure i commented "Yes, because you are feeding him. Oh, and you just gave them a free baron." but he continued to play the same way, chasing the full 5 man team that had baron up into the dragon pit and such great plays.


EDIT:
Also, the 100 ELO drop that i expected has happened again. I will never break the 1250 barrier, i always end up with people throwing easily won games ahead. "Team has twice the CS and even on kills, let's throw it now with the most ridiculous engagements ever!"
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 04:57:19
October 28 2012 03:38 GMT
#5907
Tried to make a run at gold and went from 1419 to 1250, only lost my lane 3-4times during the 60-70games it took to drop down and it's not even that my team's losing their lanes hard, it's almost always just one person runs off and does his own thing getting caught then forcing us into a bad 4v5 or giving them free baron that loses the games.


Hit up some friends I duo'd with on their way to gold and they all want to play stupid shit like AP EZ mid and end up doing terrible cause they really don't care now that they have their gold locked in and think that 1250-1300 is so much lower than 1500 that random trash works.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 28 2012 08:30 GMT
#5908
Why oh why are the people who are so fucking insistent on playing AD always so shit at it. TF Graves (and by TF I mean he had a Zeal and Phage by 40 minutes), and Varus who was so sure that 1v1ing Kat was the best move for the entire game. At least when these types of morons play top lane, they're generally tanky enough that their stupidity isn't always suicidal.
It's your boy Guzma!
deathray797
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
196 Posts
October 28 2012 12:33 GMT
#5909
I fucking hate people who honor spam, even if they do it unintentionally. Honor is supposed to be for exceptional behavior ingame or gameplay, e.g. friendliness or just making really good plays. Its NOT for picking a garen-panth-dari-j4 comp and spamming "PLZ HONOR FOR MANLINESS" and its NOT for just having an extra line to say in post-game chat. Seriously more than half the games I play with my lower lvl friends are like we play the game and its a normal game without that much exceptional stuff and then the post game chat is like 20 lines of "PLZ HONOR ME" "HONOR FOR ALL" "OK I GIVE HONOR FOR ALL". That's not what honor is fucking for. And spamming/trading honor like that is bannable. I've only really reported one set of duo queuers for spamming honor but I seriously want to just report all the fucks that spam honor like that. Only problem is most honor trading goes along in post game chat so even if I report the annoying fucks nothing will come of it.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
October 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#5910
On October 28 2012 21:33 deathray797 wrote:
I fucking hate people who honor spam, even if they do it unintentionally. Honor is supposed to be for exceptional behavior ingame or gameplay, e.g. friendliness or just making really good plays. Its NOT for picking a garen-panth-dari-j4 comp and spamming "PLZ HONOR FOR MANLINESS" and its NOT for just having an extra line to say in post-game chat. Seriously more than half the games I play with my lower lvl friends are like we play the game and its a normal game without that much exceptional stuff and then the post game chat is like 20 lines of "PLZ HONOR ME" "HONOR FOR ALL" "OK I GIVE HONOR FOR ALL". That's not what honor is fucking for. And spamming/trading honor like that is bannable. I've only really reported one set of duo queuers for spamming honor but I seriously want to just report all the fucks that spam honor like that. Only problem is most honor trading goes along in post game chat so even if I report the annoying fucks nothing will come of it.


Take screenshots, upload to imgur and link the screenshots in your report. Done deal.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
October 28 2012 17:33 GMT
#5911
I'm Cait and go back to buy at around 7 minutes after running out of pots and with an earlier first blood on Sona. On my way back to lane TF TP's bot to try and gank the still healthy Draven/Sona while I'm not there. Nunu tries to save him but Draven gets a free double kill.

"report this cait, so bad, fed draven." and all the usual crap.... all game long. I was 1-1-1 at 20 mins when we lost a dragon fight but no, "bot lane lost so hard, report noob bot lane." Even killed the goddamn Draven in-lane post-double kill but Nunu was forced to take it with his ult.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
olabaz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States298 Posts
October 28 2012 19:14 GMT
#5912
So i dont get mad at this game anymore and just look at what I can do better after a loss. I also realized it is fun enough winning my lane even if the other lanes do terrible. But I dont understand how someone can tell me I belong at my Current ELO when i consistently perform at a higher skill level than players on both sides. I am not saying i should be platinum but ~1350 as opposed to 1250. I am not saying i wont get there but it is definitely going to take longer than it should. And if you disagree with this statement i invite you to duo q with me or watch my stream. But until youve seen me play you cannot comment otherwise. So this QQ is about people saying your current ELO= actual ELO.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12059 Posts
October 28 2012 19:31 GMT
#5913
On October 29 2012 04:14 olabaz wrote:
So i dont get mad at this game anymore and just look at what I can do better after a loss. I also realized it is fun enough winning my lane even if the other lanes do terrible. But I dont understand how someone can tell me I belong at my Current ELO when i consistently perform at a higher skill level than players on both sides. I am not saying i should be platinum but ~1350 as opposed to 1250. I am not saying i wont get there but it is definitely going to take longer than it should. And if you disagree with this statement i invite you to duo q with me or watch my stream. But until youve seen me play you cannot comment otherwise. So this QQ is about people saying your current ELO= actual ELO.


Of course your current Elo is not necessary your "real" elo. But statistics also make it obvious that when you consistently perform better then others at your current Elo, you will eventually rise. (With "perform better" defined as "doing stuff that makes you win", which is the only thing checked by the Elo system. It does not care for your KD, it does not care for your farm, unless you can use that to make you win more. This can be a lot of things, including propagating a positive team atmosphere and making good calls and getting people to listen to them that do not relate directly to your play)

"Eventually" might take some time, but there is absolutely no way around this in a game where you are only one of 10 players, AND where each game takes about half an hour. You need a lot of games for statistics to overcome randomness in this situation. It is impossible to design a system that accurately determines the skill level of all individuals in a 10-player game without a massive amount of games, especially when that skill level is not necessary constant, and there is also randomness involved. If you played a 100-1000 games and stayed pretty close to your current elo during this time, it is probably your real elo. If not, one can not say if it is or not.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 28 2012 19:48 GMT
#5914
Love games where the entire team just sits in base, pulls up lolking stats, and screams at one another. So productive.
It's your boy Guzma!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 20:09:02
October 28 2012 20:08 GMT
#5915
In my experience from my 1600 to 1100 drop (hellz yeah, beat that mother fuckers.) the only way to win games with bad players on your team is to make good initiates and calls for them, and hope they listen.

I mained support and for so long i just shut the fuck up and played, more often then not winning bot but after laning phase ended it would just be full of idiot engagements, bad calls and overall play. Im lazy as hell so i just let it happen without giving input.

What ive noticed, is usually if you say it in a nice manner and make plays and tell people to do things, you can pull it together for the win, instead of just following in the derpiness.

Honestly, sometimes the only way to win is to lead the team, not only to play well. On the other hand, those people who wander off regardless and get killed but blame you, they are impossible to counter unless they jungle / supp and all 3 lanes get hardfed.

60% of my games were leona out of 300 btw, with a 60% winrate lul, gotta take a champ with a stronk engage to win that shit. Now im doing the amumu junglez. more fun! Im back at 1300 now btw, i quit for 6 months after the drop hehe and came back, after re-learning i had to lead instead of just play, im winning alot more.
Useless wet fish.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 28 2012 22:35 GMT
#5916
Trying to play ranked a sunday... I'm dumb.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
October 28 2012 23:01 GMT
#5917
AD sucks without a decent support. And I haven't had one in a while. Since bot lane got so aggressive, lvl 1/2 are so important time windows where a lot of shit can go wrong. And it usually does. It goes horribly wrong.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 28 2012 23:20 GMT
#5918
fuck this game and all the dcs and feeders in every single game at every elo
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
October 29 2012 00:48 GMT
#5919
I'm probably a little bit late to the party, but I just noticed that own3d requires you to turn off AD blocker when you want to watch in HD. FUCK THIS SHIT greedy bastards, as if you didn't earn enough money already. zzz.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 29 2012 01:11 GMT
#5920
Aight so, I'm usually a pretty chill dude. I don't really rage that hard or shit talk my teammates even if we're getting rolled 'cause there's no point. But when I'm 2/2/3 as AD carry and ahead in CS over the opposing AD carry and my teammate starts shit talking me and saying that I am the reason we are losing I do get a bit annoyed. Especially since my teammate was queued up with our mid laner who fed really hard and our jungler who had zero map presence except for in top lane (which was incidentally the lane he played). But still, it's no big deal. People have bad games.

After being shit talked enough though I finally had it and just started feeding. Like ran straight into the enemy team all by myself super obvious intentional feeding. People who shit talk you when you're playing fine because they can't shit talk their friends don't deserve to win. I even ended the game with a decent K/D/A and still had more CS than the opposing AD carry.

I realize that intentional feeding is still a bannable offense but I honestly think it's justified when people are being giant tools.
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