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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On November 19 2013 23:07 jcarlsoniv wrote: her mobility is too low He had blue buff and nearly max cdr, and the fight took place over about 40 seconds or something In a teamfight you'd get like 3 seconds to close that gap if you don't want to die to whoever you're charging. the play itself wasn't really that impressive honestly, I pulled of some similar shit yesterday its just I didn't have blue buff and I was playing vs shit players lol I wonder why he goes BT instead of hydra, I guses it is awkward trying to use hydra proc inbetween all your skills like if you take the time to be 40 seconds udyr is mobile as fuck with blue buff and he shields just as often but it teamfights he's considered easily kited | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
 He already admitted you were right that she doesn't have the mobility of an assassin like Zed, but hearing people say Riven isn't mobile isn't something you hear everyday. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On November 20 2013 00:57 Slayer91 wrote: He had blue buff and nearly max cdr, and the fight took place over about 40 seconds or something In a teamfight you'd get like 3 seconds to close that gap if you don't want to die to whoever you're charging. the play itself wasn't really that impressive honestly, I pulled of some similar shit yesterday its just I didn't have blue buff and I was playing vs shit players lol I wonder why he goes BT instead of hydra, I guses it is awkward trying to use hydra proc inbetween all your skills like if you take the time to be 40 seconds udyr is mobile as fuck with blue buff and he shields just as often but it teamfights he's considered easily kited He picked her up on NA soloqueue. I don't know whom else was a big Riven player at high elo other than Boxbox and BRNA at the time, but I know they still favor BT because they're good enough to follow the S2 standard of "hurdur ratios." | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
also a non zero value on the AoE cleave shit since people often are stacked up I think. I'd say they are pretty even. The extra lifesteal is offset by being able to aoe lifesteal instead of using spells on creep waves. however you need to keep stacks otherwise hydra is massively better edit: actually if you auto a lot and use all passive stacks stacked BT does a bit more damage | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On November 20 2013 01:14 Slayer91 wrote: well BT gives a maximum of ~150 more damage on your combo so ravenous hydra is technically more damage also a non zero value on the AoE cleave shit since people often are stacked up I think. I'd say they are pretty even. The extra lifesteal is offset by being able to aoe lifesteal instead of using spells on creep waves. however you need to keep stacks otherwise hydra is massively better edit: actually if you auto a lot and use all passive stacks stacked BT does a bit more damage The more AD you have, the better Hydra is in extended fights. Riven has to fight most like an assassin than a bruiser, making burst scenarios where Hydra wins, more significant. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
That said, I'd still prefer Hydra. Heck get both. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
and the longer the fight goes the more autos +passive hits+combos you get all of which scale off your total ad like hydra cd is like what 8s? your cds are shorter | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On November 20 2013 03:15 obesechicken13 wrote: The AoE on Hydra isn't always a positive thing. It leaves you with little lane control and overall gives you less lifesteal per wave since the AoE lifesteal penalty is so harsh that if you just took longer to clear the wave you'd get more life. That said, I'd still prefer Hydra. Heck get both. Lifesteal doesn't have diminishing returns like Spellvamp has. On November 20 2013 03:20 Slayer91 wrote: hydra animation is slightly slow though, especially if you are trying rotate q's and autos for your passive getting your R up and using it etcetc so its not THAT good and the longer the fight goes the more autos +passive hits+combos you get all of which scale off your total ad like hydra cd is like what 8s? your cds are shorter You use Hydra to cancel out your ability's animation, preferably W, which would be dead time anyway. Hydra active is a 1:1 total spell, which hit harder than your stun does. By the time you roll around to a fully stacked BT doing more damage, Hydra active is up in a second or so anyway to jump ahead. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 20 2013 04:20 Gahlo wrote: Lifesteal doesn't have diminishing returns like Spellvamp has. TIL. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Well diminishing returns isn't the right word. Both lifesteal and spellvamp stack additively. But yeah, spellvamp is less effective on AoE spells; lifesteal doesn't have that. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
The winning entry of the inven popstar ahri fanart contest | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 22 2013 17:09 Chexx wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAS0mb_A2C4 The winning entry of the inven popstar ahri fanart contest Giant, center screen boobs aside, the silhouettes are really cool and I really like that remix of IGAB. | ||
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