EPTOn July 12 2025 07:27 TeamMamba wrote:
I’m curious to see Clem’s toss against cure for this tournament
I’m curious to see Clem’s toss against cure for this tournament
Gotta see if Shin hits him with another Dallas surprise first!
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Gotta see if Shin hits him with another Dallas surprise first! | ||
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tigera6
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
It felt like Clem was uncharacteristically sloppy at times, but in the end that didn't matter. Surprised it took him until G5 to play storm when it seems to be so hyper effective right now. I wonder if sometimes he's so happy playing against splash that he forgets how effective it is vs everyone else who doesn't have his control | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1106 Posts
On July 12 2025 21:31 Asha wrote: Some solid games from Cure but should have stuck to the committed two base pushes. Clem was uncharacteristically sloppy at times, but in the end didn't matter. Surprised it took him until G5 to play storm when it seems to be so hyper effective right now. I wonder if sometimes he's so happy playing against splash that he forgets how effective it is vs everyone else who doesn't have his control the 2-base all-in from terran against protoss has gained a weird status from commentators and observers (most of whom don't even play the game) as being some kind of magical solution that is supposed to keep the match-up in balance - even though Byun, Cure and Clem time and time again refuse to play that way. these same commentators tout Cure as a "TvP specialist" in the same breath as they tell him how the matchup is supposed to be played! next time you ask, "why isn't Cure all-inning like that one time months ago when he did it against hero??" maybe stop to consider that maybe the world-class pro terran knows better than you do. Cure's builds and decisions speak for themself. it's evident from watching Cure's play that he is not confident to frequently 2-base all-in against protoss it might work for the shadow terran who doesn't broadcast his play all the time (Maru). it also might work on ladder. it won't work if you're in the pro circuit and revealing your play every week like Cure and Byun are doing. the only reason terran all-ins work against protoss is surprise don't take this personally - because it's not just a rebuttal against you, but a feeling that has grown in me after reading so many comments on forums or reddit or twitch chat that goes along the lines of "the professional gamer should have done this". no, you don't know better than Cure. he plays the way he does for a good reason. feeding the misconception that 2-base terran should be meta and that so many pro terrans are misunderstanding the matchup is just incredibly ignorant and seems like a sorry excuse for what the matchup is really like. what you see is what you get. TvP is brutal. it's all about terran getting hard-contained, out-expanded and dying by a thousand cuts, unless you can pull off a surgical strike attack that immediately ends the game. 2-base allin isn't a reliable way to win because it's easy to scout for and easy to crush if you know it's coming. the 2-base terran all-ins that were strong no matter if you saw them coming have long been patched out of the game | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1710 Posts
On July 11 2025 20:26 tigera6 wrote: back to more 2-base all-in, I guess, most Terran cant play like Clem and Maru in straight up macro TvP. yes, and zergs still getting rekt unless your name is Serral. More news @ 11. | ||
Poopi
France12876 Posts
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tigera6
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On July 12 2025 23:13 Poopi wrote: Yeah it might be better for those terrans to try and learn PvP at this point That would only works against Clem, other Protoss will smash those Terrans in PvP. On July 12 2025 22:18 CicadaSC wrote: yes, and zergs still getting rekt unless your name is Serral. More news @ 11. We had 4 Zergs in top 8 at Dallas, and Rogue made GSL Final, they seems to be doing pretty well. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1710 Posts
On July 12 2025 23:19 tigera6 wrote: That would only works against Clem, other Protoss will smash those Terrans in PvP. We had 4 Zergs in top 8 at Dallas, and Rogue made GSL Final, they seems to be doing pretty well. Yes and Maru won that same Dallas and Clem is always farming. What is your point? Top 4 Zerg are just as much an exception as top 4 Terran. It's a good comparison just let it be. | ||
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Agh
United States971 Posts
It might not be even that but I can't put my finger on it, he's literally full running from engagements where he can trade more than cost effectively and in some cases win them outright. (Not just in this series but several others as well) If you're mentally defeated enough where you aren't even counting units then maybe it's best to take a break and reset. GGs anyway, looking forward to the finals. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9195 Posts
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1106 Posts
On July 13 2025 19:43 Sent. wrote: What's up with those very long commercial breaks between games? Are they having technical issues or is this something designed to uhh build tension? Tasteless needs time to do a line of coke and a shot of tequila between each match | ||
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tigera6
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
I wish the broadcast schedule was improved for season 2 onwards, having 9 days of broadcast for only 14 online matches is way too much, no one wants to only watch a Bo7 for the winner bracket final or the grand final. | ||
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darklycid
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25288 Posts
On July 13 2025 20:12 Aeromi wrote: So far today less than 50% of the broadcast has been games, not a good look imo. Any reason why breaks are 7 minutes long? Having content during break would be appreciated, interview with players, Q&A to promote the Patreon, anything really. I wish the broadcast schedule was improved for season 2 onwards, having 9 days of broadcast for only 14 online matches is way too much, no one wants to only watch a Bo7 for the winner bracket final or the grand final. Downtime stuff would be great, definitely not a deal-breaker for me but a pretty obvious area for improvement. Broadcast schedule, I’m not sure tbh. I think we had quite a few stomps, so it can feel underwhelming if it’s the day’s only match. On the flipside, a bit more prep time is there, and I definitely think GSL has suffered as a spectacle for me since they crammed the playoffs into a single day. Versus a weekender, I don’t have to give up big chunks of a Friday-Sunday, which is nice. But I think maybe the cadence could be a little better for sure. Regardless, for me a solid first effort and some great performances from the players | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1357 Posts
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On July 13 2025 21:03 WombaT wrote: Downtime stuff would be great, definitely not a deal-breaker for me but a pretty obvious area for improvement. Broadcast schedule, I’m not sure tbh. I think we had quite a few stomps, so it can feel underwhelming if it’s the day’s only match. On the flipside, a bit more prep time is there, and I definitely think GSL has suffered as a spectacle for me since they crammed the playoffs into a single day. Versus a weekender, I don’t have to give up big chunks of a Friday-Sunday, which is nice. But I think maybe the cadence could be a little better for sure. Regardless, for me a solid first effort and some great performances from the players Regarding downtime stuff, if PiG who is doing the production by himself can do it I believe a team of 4 people can also do it too. Also to have a better production value it should be mandatory to have player cameras, PiG does it as well and players are used to do it. Broadcast schedule could be 10 days of broadcast if it was offline but given its online and a Bo5 usually takes 1 hour it's madness to only have 2 Bo5 per day. You want to have longer stream to increase the viewership of each broadcast. Having a broadcast for sometime a single online Bo7 is weird and is not the right way to increase the quality of your broadcast. I understand having a longer event vs weekend event but the scene is way too small to have longer events as there are not enough top players anymore. 13 days of broadcast total seems quite a lot for a 16 players event, it could easily be reduced to around 10 days (4 groups + 6 days for playoffs). Overall I'm happy to see more SC2 events but there are significant improvements than can be reached for the second season onwards and hopefully there will be a breakdown of the P&L of since the first month of the Patreon start date. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6928 Posts
And even when Clem was ahead later in the series he really didn't know what to do it seems. | ||
Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
Jet lag?  | ||
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