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tigera6
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bulldozer06701
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Charoisaur
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JJH777
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On November 20 2023 02:07 bulldozer06701 wrote: They should consider losing the 1 point advantage thing. No one likes it. I know it's double elimination, but still, it doesn't feel right. Also, Clem deserves the crown today It is very anti hype. A bo7 ending 3-3 is always dumb. The competitive integrity argument also doesn't make much sense to me. Staying in the upper bracket already allows you to make the finals in 1-2 less series. The argument that all players should get a series loss is also poor imo because there's already a double standard there with group stages. It's entirely possible in most tournaments that a player with a significantly worse series/map score ends up eliminating a player with a better winrate and even the head to head lead in that very event. Competitive integrity would require every event be a full round robin and the player who finishes with the best map score is the winner. Anything short of that and you're compromising and the idea that not having a map lead in the grand finals is too much of a compromise over all the other ones that already happen is dumb. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15340 Posts
On November 20 2023 02:50 tigera6 wrote: Its the Fungal from Burrow Infestor thats the problem, Ultra is strong but they are not efficient enough if the Bio Ghost can micro back to avoid the clump up. Burrow fungal is a skill play so I don't mind it. On the old patch you couldn't continously build Ultras throughout the lategame against Ghost Liberator and end up even on resources lost. | ||
tigera6
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On November 20 2023 02:57 Charoisaur wrote: Burrow fungal is a skill play so I don't mind it. On the old patch you couldn't continously build Ultras throughout the lategame against Ghost Liberator and end up even on resources lost. The specific map allow the Zerg to tech up to Ultra early and get them out safely. The even trading was part of the Infestor Fungal/ Viper combo that hit Clem when he stay too aggressive. Yes its a skill play, but its the same thing as you give High Templar the Storm and Invisibility imo, even if you halve the damage of Storm its still worth it. You just spread them around enough to hit a jack pot, and there is no real counter against that unless Terran slow the game down and start building Turret/Ravens and keep replacing them. Only work if Zerg has a strong economy that can replace Infestor quickly though. | ||
darklycid
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Kreuger
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Here hoping for more NA madness like yesterday :D | ||
Hider
Denmark9134 Posts
On November 20 2023 03:20 darklycid wrote: Eh TvZ lategame is kinda meh rn, feels like zerg is sorta banking on money fungals because ghosts are good and then these are just snowballing stuff too much. Eventually terran will learn to adjust to these fungals. I actually think it's a very exciting mechanic. The late-game play with positional units being spread all over many bases and constant action is something I like a lot as well. That said, I agree about the zerg snowball. Feels like Zerg can be in a 95%+ winning position for 5-10 minutes before being able to end the game. But in the grand scheme of things, that's a relatively minor complaint on my side. | ||
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