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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12946 Posts
August 22 2023 15:11 GMT
#21
What happens if Maru wins both his matches tomorrow, ShoWTimE only loses to Serral+Maru, while MaxPax only loses to ShoWTimE and Serral?
Two spots and ShoWTimE/Maru/MaxPax tied at 3w-2l in matches. I don't find the tie-breaker info on liquipedia? I guess it will go down to map differential, but if somehow they are also tied there, since MaxPax > Maru, Maru > ShoWTimE and ShoWTimE > MaxPax, we might have a three-way tie right?
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3498 Posts
August 22 2023 15:18 GMT
#22
Yeah, most likely overall mapscore then head-to-head mapscore among the 3 players.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
August 22 2023 16:57 GMT
#23
On August 23 2023 00:11 Poopi wrote:
What happens if Maru wins both his matches tomorrow, ShoWTimE only loses to Serral+Maru, while MaxPax only loses to ShoWTimE and Serral?
Two spots and ShoWTimE/Maru/MaxPax tied at 3w-2l in matches. I don't find the tie-breaker info on liquipedia? I guess it will go down to map differential, but if somehow they are also tied there, since MaxPax > Maru, Maru > ShoWTimE and ShoWTimE > MaxPax, we might have a three-way tie right?

Hope it's coin toss straight away
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tlnetuser108
Profile Joined October 2022
83 Posts
August 22 2023 19:22 GMT
#24
Even though Maru lost against Serral, he's still a better player. Anyone know what am anomaly is? Cope harder.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
August 22 2023 19:32 GMT
#25
Maru's been pretty disappointing lately. Can't believe he's now lost to Maxpax 4 times in a row especially considering the overall state of TvP being T favored. At least he beat Gumiho.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12946 Posts
August 22 2023 19:34 GMT
#26
On August 23 2023 04:32 JJH777 wrote:
Maru's been pretty disappointing lately. Can't believe he's now lost to Maxpax 4 times in a row especially considering the overall state of TvP being T favored. At least he beat Gumiho.

I mean until he loses to MaxPax offline () it’s not super worrying. Him not able to beat Serral is worse imo, albeit every terran are losing to the top zerg nowadays
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
August 22 2023 19:46 GMT
#27
On August 23 2023 04:34 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2023 04:32 JJH777 wrote:
Maru's been pretty disappointing lately. Can't believe he's now lost to Maxpax 4 times in a row especially considering the overall state of TvP being T favored. At least he beat Gumiho.

I mean until he loses to MaxPax offline () it’s not super worrying. Him not able to beat Serral is worse imo, albeit every terran are losing to the top zerg nowadays


I think losing to Maxpax is worse just because TvP is pretty Terran favored. ZvT I think is Zerg favored at the top level so I can forgive him more though it's still disappointing. if he can't beat Maxpax on this patch then I don't see how he'll ever beat him on a balanced one.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
August 23 2023 01:18 GMT
#28
Just watched most of Maru vs Serral game 1 and I don't understand what happened in the game deciding engagement. Why did Maru move his ghosts so close to the Broodlords? They looked like they were way closer than snipe range. Was that a mistake or intentional? Almost all of the ghosts got hit by a single fungal. If I didn't already know he lost I would have thought he was winning up until that engagement. That looked like a massive throw.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3498 Posts
August 23 2023 02:02 GMT
#29
On August 23 2023 04:46 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2023 04:34 Poopi wrote:
On August 23 2023 04:32 JJH777 wrote:
Maru's been pretty disappointing lately. Can't believe he's now lost to Maxpax 4 times in a row especially considering the overall state of TvP being T favored. At least he beat Gumiho.

I mean until he loses to MaxPax offline () it’s not super worrying. Him not able to beat Serral is worse imo, albeit every terran are losing to the top zerg nowadays


I think losing to Maxpax is worse just because TvP is pretty Terran favored. ZvT I think is Zerg favored at the top level so I can forgive him more though it's still disappointing. if he can't beat Maxpax on this patch then I don't see how he'll ever beat him on a balanced one.

MaxPax style works very well against Maru TvP, who always try to finish the game with a timing push. In both games he lost to MaxPax, he does that and got behind on a weaker economy due Zealot runby. Hes also making mistake in both games, game 2 he did a weirdly 2-3 Medivac drop into the main, leaving the tanks completely exposed. Game 3 he just taking too many balls into the face. Even in the game 1 that he won, his defense against the Blink Stalker was pretty bad, losing tanks left and right, just feel like his micro aint good at the moment.

Against Serral, the fight he took was bad because of the base location, Maru sent all of his Ghost into a corner and they got stuck. He also took the fight while being down 40 army supply while still having the bank to max out, and never use Nuke to zone out the BLord army. Despite all that it was a very close game, but I am more disappointed about game 2 lost, Maru literally saw the Roach when trying to cancel the 3rd base, but made no Banshee, still does the Widow Mines drop and delay tanks production, also no Bunker in the natural, like what you think gonna happen against that?

Overall, I expect another Ro8/12 exit from Maru with this type of performance IF he make it past the Group Stage.

Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
August 23 2023 03:58 GMT
#30
I just remembered this tournament is running until Sept 10th lol, RIP my sleep schedule

see you guys in about 7 hours!
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niecestanz
Profile Joined August 2023
1 Post
Last Edited: 2023-10-05 08:07:22
August 23 2023 11:20 GMT
#31
Yup, it's lagging on twitch but runs fast on douyu. Gogo Maru
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 23 2023 11:46 GMT
#32
i feel like Serral has finished sc2 multiplayer. bit boring to watch him in a way.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
August 23 2023 13:28 GMT
#33
On August 23 2023 20:46 Schelim wrote:
i feel like Serral has finished sc2 multiplayer. bit boring to watch him in a way.



Just watch Zerg vs Serral then
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
August 23 2023 14:18 GMT
#34
omg those liberators lol
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-23 14:21:51
August 23 2023 14:21 GMT
#35
Watching showtime getting in these solid positions to then just absolutely throw the game is so sad everytime
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3498 Posts
August 23 2023 14:21 GMT
#36
Maru knew he cant do the same 2 base timing push against Protoss, and he switch up to macro and Lib timing, Showtime was expecting Maru to do a Tank Bio push to crush it, he never had the answer to Libs switch.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12946 Posts
August 23 2023 14:25 GMT
#37
Feels like Maru tried to get an easy win g1, got countered, then got an easy win g2 due to ShoWTimE trying his luck with an easy win himself being up 1-0, then Maru dismantling him in regular macro game. Still scary, but now Maru is through unless GuMiho beats Serral but loses to MaxPax (depending on score) afaik?
WriterMaru
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
August 23 2023 14:34 GMT
#38
Serral made some big mistakes in the early game, but doesn't seem like it's gonna matter :/
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3498 Posts
August 23 2023 14:46 GMT
#39
On August 23 2023 23:25 Poopi wrote:
Feels like Maru tried to get an easy win g1, got countered, then got an easy win g2 due to ShoWTimE trying his luck with an easy win himself being up 1-0, then Maru dismantling him in regular macro game. Still scary, but now Maru is through unless GuMiho beats Serral but loses to MaxPax (depending on score) afaik?

If map score is the first tie-breaker than Maru is in no matter what, MaxPax and Gumiho cant BOTH get higher map score than Maru.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
August 23 2023 15:26 GMT
#40
Poor trigger.
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