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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
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Antithesis
Germany1186 Posts
On August 07 2023 02:37 WombaT wrote: IMO when he gets in the zone Reynor’s very clutch, but in some of his deeper runs in these big events he’s a tad lucky at times, be it his opponents or his brackets. No astounding play from Reynor knocked Serral and Maru out here. Perhaps uncharitable but it was no Reynor brilliance that had Maru donate a map at match point with a terrible build and awful mistakes at Katowice when he made his first WC. Serral at his best is as close to bulletproof as we’ve seen and even he drops sometimes, but when he does hit form it’s often an imperious stomp. See Maru in GSL Reynor I feel the stars have to align where he both hits his peak form, which is way above his regular and he gets a bit of luck along the way. He also makes group or whatever equivalents exist a little harder as he’s just not as resolutely consistent Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it as well. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15961 Posts
On August 07 2023 02:40 WombaT wrote: Most skewed stat in SC2 history given Rogue was either incredible or middling and the Bo7s only ever came up when he was on it because you never play Bo7s unless you get through the early stages His Bo5 stats aren’t even that remarkable That's the point of the stat, it showcases that when he hit his stride he was basically unbeatable | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25379 Posts
He’s 9/10 at basically everything and I think he makes better build choices in a tournament like this than Maru, who is similarly complete but slightly better at everything but the aforementioned | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On August 07 2023 02:40 WombaT wrote: Most skewed stat in SC2 history given Rogue was either incredible or middling and the Bo7s only ever came up when he was on it because you never play Bo7s unless you get through the early stages His Bo5 stats aren’t even that remarkable That's exactly the point though. When he hit peak form, he wasn't just better than everyone, he was better by enough of a margin to make everyone else look bad. Not that he had that form more than a dozen times over the years, but so it goes. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
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FCHK
202 Posts
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25379 Posts
On August 07 2023 02:48 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: That's exactly the point though. When he hit peak form, he wasn't just better than everyone, he was better by enough of a margin to make everyone else look bad. Not that he had that form more than a dozen times over the years, but so it goes. A large chunk of those were against Protoss in metas which weren’t exactly favourable in PvZ. At Katowice for example, he faced a Zest who’d already shown all his funky builds in PvZ to even make it there (see Wombat’s LawTM) His dismantling of Maru when he first sought the G5L was a masterful example of series planning though for sure. Rogue’s a great for sure I just think that stat is a silly stat | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
On August 07 2023 02:56 WombaT wrote: A large chunk of those were against Protoss in metas which weren’t exactly favourable in PvZ. At Katowice for example, he faced a Zest who’d already shown all his funky builds in PvZ to even make it there (see Wombat’s LawTM) His dismantling of Maru when he first sought the G5L was a masterful example of series planning though for sure. Rogue’s a great for sure I just think that stat is a silly stat Peak Serral was in a favorable Zerg meta as well so it’s difficult to compare I guess. Cure looking super strong, he might have a shot vs Reynor after all? | ||
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Vision_
861 Posts
in 2020, Patch 4.12.0 Tumor changes : "Armored" attribute removed. "Light" attribute added. Mainly done to help hellions to deal against creep, hellions should also benefit from a decent DPS against Queens (which have no tag armor), actually their Hellions DPS against a 'none tag armor unit' is less than worker DPS....... (?!) So buff hellions : 8 + 6 (light) to 12 + 2 (light) i.e +50% damage against queens, small impact on heavy armored units.... | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
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Slydie
1920 Posts
On August 07 2023 03:03 Vision_ wrote: Concerning Hellions damage : in 2020, Patch 4.12.0 Tumor changes : "Armored" attribute removed. "Light" attribute added. Mainly done to help hellions to deal against creep, hellions should also benefit from a decent DPS against Queens (which have no tag armor), actually their Hellions DPS against a 'none tag armor unit' is less than worker DPS....... (?!) So buff hellions : 8 + 6 (light) to 12 + 2 (light) i.e +50% damage against queens, small impact on heavy armored units.... That would clearly be broken for a splash attack. Helions are fine, they work well for roasting workers, marines, reapers, lings and banelings. | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
On August 07 2023 03:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Something to note about this map is that a siege tank in the exact center of main covers the entire main against nyduses, because the main is so small. Which is exactly where Cure has the tank Cure has done more homework than Solar about this then! Super fun game so far | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25379 Posts
On August 07 2023 03:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Something to note about this map is that a siege tank in the exact center of main covers the entire main against nyduses, because the main is so small. Which is exactly where Cure has the tank How many attempts was it? At least 4 or 5 right? | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25379 Posts
On August 07 2023 03:03 Vision_ wrote: Concerning Hellions damage : in 2020, Patch 4.12.0 Tumor changes : "Armored" attribute removed. "Light" attribute added. Mainly done to help hellions to deal against creep, hellions should also benefit from a decent DPS against Queens (which have no tag armor), actually their Hellions DPS against a 'none tag armor unit' is less than worker DPS....... (?!) So buff hellions : 8 + 6 (light) to 12 + 2 (light) i.e +50% damage against queens, small impact on heavy armored units.... Hellions already fry lings, and if they’re more effective vs Queens with a stronger attack that AoE it’ll make the early game TvZ a complete mess | ||
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