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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
May 10 2023 12:45 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)World Team League/2023/Summer/Regular Season

Friday, May 12 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Saturday, May 13 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Sunday, May 14 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


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cn SCBoy
uk WardiTV | uk SteadfastSC | uk RotterdaM
fr Legendk | kr IntoTheiNu | kr Crank



Starting Maps

1.(Wiki)Altitude
2.(Wiki)Gresvan
3.(Wiki)Royal Blood

Ace
(Wiki)Babylon



Match-ups

May 12

SSLT vs Basilisk

(P)FireFly vs (Z)Reynor
(Z)TooDming vs (Wiki)trigger
(Z)Silky vs (Z)Serral

Berserker vs Abydos

(Wiki)Spatz vs (P)Creator
(Wiki)Mixu vs (T)Cure
(P)TeebuL vs (P)NightMare

May 12

Liquid vs SLT

(P)SKillous vs (T)Spirit
(T)Clem vs (P)Nice
(Z)Elazer vs (Z)Cham

Onsyde vs Shopify

(T)Maru vs (Z)Scarlett
(Z)Solar vs (Z)Lambo
(T)Ryung vs (T)ByuN

May 14

Invictus vs DKZ

(P)MacSed vs (P)herO
(Z)BreakingGG vs (T)TIME
(T)XY vs (Z)Dark

Platinum Heroes vs PsiStorm

(P)DnS vs (T)SpeCial
(P)Goblin vs (P)Gerald
(P)ShaDoWn vs (P)MaxPax
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
May 12 2023 13:06 GMT
#2
I did not expect coming back home from work to a situation where SSLT leads Basilisk.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-12 13:40:42
May 12 2023 13:40 GMT
#3
On May 12 2023 22:06 digmouse wrote:
I did not expect coming back home from work to a situation where SSLT leads Basilisk.

I don't think Trigger losing is that surprising.

But Firefly taking a game from Reynor is big!

Basilisk in the last chance saloon as far as this series goes.
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BelethielQT
Profile Joined August 2022
90 Posts
May 12 2023 13:42 GMT
#4
Wp by firefly but reynor's zvp isnt the best
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-12 13:53:44
May 12 2023 13:50 GMT
#5
Reynor making sure we get an ace match!

It's clearly time for ace Rotti...
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 12 2023 14:05 GMT
#6
What in the actual fuck is going on
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-12 14:20:18
May 12 2023 14:09 GMT
#7
This is becoming very similar to the first game between Firefly and Reynor.

I'm unsure why they didn't send Serral as the ace tbh.

EDIT:

That Ling drop did some major work for Reynor.

It looked dicey when his Dropperlord play was stalling out, but he's turned it around now.

Vipers should finish it off because the Disruptors will be useless.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
May 12 2023 14:13 GMT
#8
This point and the win against SR probably just won SSLT their relegation fight.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 12 2023 14:14 GMT
#9
Aw, that's a real let-down. We almost had a proper genuinely exciting result
Year of MaxPax
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
May 12 2023 22:50 GMT
#10
This point and the win against SR probably just won SSLT their relegation fight.


If they keep playing well like this they are certainly at least contending for playoff. They have fucking 8 points after round 4, which is already enough to avoid relegation in previous seasons.
xyfan
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
May 13 2023 04:53 GMT
#11
Starving Camels are the new Team GP, frequently performing above expectations.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
May 13 2023 13:31 GMT
#12
On May 13 2023 07:50 mintyminmus wrote:
Show nested quote +
This point and the win against SR probably just won SSLT their relegation fight.


If they keep playing well like this they are certainly at least contending for playoff. They have fucking 8 points after round 4, which is already enough to avoid relegation in previous seasons.

And they are yet to play iG and PH, six point from them (harder vs PH), plus a few points here and there (can totally see them taking points off TL and PsiStorm), they are rightfully in contention for 7th which, historically has a cut off point of 16-18 pts.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-13 14:36:46
May 13 2023 14:36 GMT
#13
Maru and Solar are still undefeated, Onsyde are cleaning house right now.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
May 13 2023 14:41 GMT
#14
Onsyde has been sending the same player order since the beginning, team should try to snipe that. Today SR should have sent Byun first, then Harstem and Lambo.
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
May 13 2023 14:56 GMT
#15
maru is going to read this thread and they will mix it up next week
xyfan
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
May 13 2023 20:59 GMT
#16
On May 13 2023 23:56 mintyminmus wrote:
maru is going to read this thread and they will mix it up next week

They're playing SLT next week, absolutely no need.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-14 04:04:55
May 14 2023 04:04 GMT
#17
On May 13 2023 23:36 Nakajin wrote:
Maru and Solar are still undefeated, Onsyde are cleaning house right now.



Did Serral lost one map already?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
May 14 2023 07:53 GMT
#18
On May 14 2023 13:04 swarminfestor wrote:
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On May 13 2023 23:36 Nakajin wrote:
Maru and Solar are still undefeated, Onsyde are cleaning house right now.



Did Serral lost one map already?

nope, those 3 are still undefeated in WTL at the moment, but 2 of them are on the same team so that means Onsyde is doing very well. Granted the toughest part of their schedule is yet to come, which is the last 4 weeks of the season.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 14 2023 14:07 GMT
#19
What a disaster for Psistorm
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Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
May 14 2023 14:10 GMT
#20
On May 14 2023 23:07 Nakajin wrote:
What a disaster for Psistorm


SpeciaL losing 0-2 to DnS is shocking. Not the first time he blips like that ... last season that also happened
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
May 14 2023 14:22 GMT
#21
PsiStorm learning the hard way that they do need a highly qualitied No. 2 player.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1248 Posts
May 14 2023 19:20 GMT
#22
On May 14 2023 23:22 tigera6 wrote:
PsiStorm learning the hard way that they do need a highly qualitied No. 2 player.


It doesn't help when then 2nd good player just isn't bringing in the points he should be bringing in :/
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
May 15 2023 04:29 GMT
#23
At least PsiStorm can breath a little bit with SLT and iG coming up.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-15 05:48:45
May 15 2023 05:45 GMT
#24
On May 15 2023 04:20 Balnazza wrote:
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On May 14 2023 23:22 tigera6 wrote:
PsiStorm learning the hard way that they do need a highly qualitied No. 2 player.


It doesn't help when then 2nd good player just isn't bringing in the points he should be bringing in :/

Because he isnt supposed to be the 2nd best player on the team, no disrespect to Special. He could be a sniper in TvT but they need a better player to take some weight off MaxPax.

Looking forward, their only "sure win" match are against Invictus and Berserker who are prime for relegation. I dont think they can catch the other team to make the playoff push.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 15 2023 16:23 GMT
#25
On May 15 2023 14:45 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2023 04:20 Balnazza wrote:
On May 14 2023 23:22 tigera6 wrote:
PsiStorm learning the hard way that they do need a highly qualitied No. 2 player.


It doesn't help when then 2nd good player just isn't bringing in the points he should be bringing in :/

Because he isnt supposed to be the 2nd best player on the team, no disrespect to Special. He could be a sniper in TvT but they need a better player to take some weight off MaxPax.

Looking forward, their only "sure win" match are against Invictus and Berserker who are prime for relegation. I dont think they can catch the other team to make the playoff push.


I don't think we should dismiss them so quickly. This weekend was their first hard blow in the playoff race, but it is probable that at least one team will make it to the playoff despite getting swept by DKG-Basilisk-Abydos (and Onsyde),
They are definitely not where they want to be, but if they can win at least the majority of their head-to-head vs SSLT, SLT, TL and SR, they still have a shot.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-15 16:39:47
May 15 2023 16:39 GMT
#26
On May 15 2023 14:45 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2023 04:20 Balnazza wrote:
On May 14 2023 23:22 tigera6 wrote:
PsiStorm learning the hard way that they do need a highly qualitied No. 2 player.


It doesn't help when then 2nd good player just isn't bringing in the points he should be bringing in :/

Because he isnt supposed to be the 2nd best player on the team, no disrespect to Special. He could be a sniper in TvT but they need a better player to take some weight off MaxPax.

Looking forward, their only "sure win" match are against Invictus and Berserker who are prime for relegation. I dont think they can catch the other team to make the playoff push.

Yeah, Psistorm has 1 Ace Player in MaxPax and then Special, Has and Gerald all fill the role as 3rd Support player/ sniper.
They just don t have any solid 2nd player anymore.
Liquid had the same Problem for multiple seasons as well. For them it was even worse though, as Clem was strugling in WTL way more than MaxPax
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