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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
November 24 2022 08:24 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)World Team League/2022/Winter/Regular Season

Friday, Nov 25 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Saturday, Nov 26 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Sunday, Nov 27 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


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(T)Coffee vs (Z)RagnaroK
(P)MacSed vs (P)Zoun
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CranKy vs PsiStorm

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(T)Vindicta vs (P)Has
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GP vs SSLT

(P)NightMare vs (Z)TooDming
(P)Prince vs (P)FireFly
(Z)Cham vs (Z)Silky

KaiZi vs Liquid

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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 24 2022 11:30 GMT
#2
Kaizi vs Liquid - the Match of the 2 underperformers in this League
It looks insanly close, I d be very suprised if this doesn t go to ace match
MaxPax
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 24 2022 12:13 GMT
#3
GP would probably have wanted Nightmare against Firefly rather than Prince, but it still look like a doable match to go get the 3 points and keep their hopes alive.

As for TL, this is probably the best they could have hope for, if Clem can get points on the bord against Reynor. Even an ace would put them in an amazing place in the race against GP.

Also, shootout to the ducklings who seems to have pretty reasonable hopes to get at least an ace match against PSI.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 24 2022 14:27 GMT
#4
On November 24 2022 21:13 Nakajin wrote:

Also, shootout to the ducklings who seems to have pretty reasonable hopes to get at least an ace match against PSI.

In what World do you live in?
Each of the ducklings has a reasonable shot at going 1-1.
It happening in all 3 matches seems realy unlikely in my eys at least.
And even a single 2-0 for any of the ducklings is pretty unlikely as well, as all 3 PsiStorm players are still the favorites here
MaxPax
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
351 Posts
November 24 2022 15:51 GMT
#5
On November 24 2022 21:13 Nakajin wrote:
GP would probably have wanted Nightmare against Firefly rather than Prince, but it still look like a doable match to go get the 3 points and keep their hopes alive.

As for TL, this is probably the best they could have hope for, if Clem can get points on the bord against Reynor. Even an ace would put them in an amazing place in the race against GP.

Also, shootout to the ducklings who seems to have pretty reasonable hopes to get at least an ace match against PSI.


Cranky Ducklings almost pulled it off because the Team Liquid players don't have a great defence against s**thouse build orders. Against players like the PSIS ones who aren't averse to cheese themselves, they know better how to defend against opposite cheeses. 6-0 Psistorm isn't out of stretch in that aspect.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 24 2022 17:29 GMT
#6
On November 24 2022 23:27 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2022 21:13 Nakajin wrote:

Also, shootout to the ducklings who seems to have pretty reasonable hopes to get at least an ace match against PSI.

In what World do you live in?
Each of the ducklings has a reasonable shot at going 1-1.
It happening in all 3 matches seems realy unlikely in my eys at least.
And even a single 2-0 for any of the ducklings is pretty unlikely as well, as all 3 PsiStorm players are still the favorites here


Special has not been looking to hot lately and Vindicta can upset Has in tvp I think.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 25 2022 14:25 GMT
#7
I can t watch right now, why is oreo playing instead of pattymac?
MaxPax
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 25 2022 14:36 GMT
#8
On November 25 2022 02:29 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2022 23:27 dbRic1203 wrote:
On November 24 2022 21:13 Nakajin wrote:

Also, shootout to the ducklings who seems to have pretty reasonable hopes to get at least an ace match against PSI.

In what World do you live in?
Each of the ducklings has a reasonable shot at going 1-1.
It happening in all 3 matches seems realy unlikely in my eys at least.
And even a single 2-0 for any of the ducklings is pretty unlikely as well, as all 3 PsiStorm players are still the favorites here


Special has not been looking to hot lately and Vindicta can upset Has in tvp I think.


Like I said, the Ducks never had a chance, PSI will have plenty of bird to go arround for Thanksgiving.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
351 Posts
November 25 2022 15:36 GMT
#9
On November 25 2022 23:25 dbRic1203 wrote:
I can t watch right now, why is oreo playing instead of pattymac?


Pattymac not showing up so the Ducks had to call Oreo in panic mode. They werent sure Oreo would be available either
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
November 26 2022 13:46 GMT
#10
When GP's clean victory, this TL vs KZ match is now hugely important for both teams. Potentially playoff deciding
xyfan
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3401 Posts
November 26 2022 13:59 GMT
#11
Reynor keep fighting without 3-3 upgrade is unbelievable bad, he lost to Clem in DH EU in the same way and now hes repeating it.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-26 16:11:17
November 26 2022 15:50 GMT
#12
GP navigate a dangerous Saturday and the pressure is back on TL shoulders for the next 2 weeks. GP also increase their map score lead a bit, but would have probably love one or two more to make sure they enter the last week with the tiebreaker over TL.

The boys in blue can't leave any points on the board vs the chinese now and need to hope GP doesn't force an ace against DPG or KZ.
If that come to pass, we're looking at a week 11 match up with TL a point ahead GP going up against PSI while the owls have the easier match up vs GGG.

Should be a fun end of the season!
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3401 Posts
November 26 2022 16:24 GMT
#13
The issue with TL this season was Clem not able to 2-0 his opponent frequently enough, I think he only manage to do it twice in 8 weeks. Granted that his opponent are usually very tough, but thats why TL has left points on the board (either by winning or losing though ACE match) and thats also why they dont have a good map score.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-27 13:18:48
November 27 2022 13:18 GMT
#14
On November 27 2022 01:24 tigera6 wrote:
The issue with TL this season was Clem not able to 2-0 his opponent frequently enough, I think he only manage to do it twice in 8 weeks. Granted that his opponent are usually very tough, but thats why TL has left points on the board (either by winning or losing though ACE match) and thats also why they dont have a good map score.


While I have been critical of Clem WTL performance in the past, the addition of Elazer was suppose to fix TL holes and transform them into a genuite contender for the title, and he really hasn't deliver either this season.
Splitting vs Scarlett and Spirit is understandable if not a bit unfortunate, but he really needed to go get the points against Rex and Rattata.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3401 Posts
November 27 2022 17:17 GMT
#15
On November 27 2022 22:18 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2022 01:24 tigera6 wrote:
The issue with TL this season was Clem not able to 2-0 his opponent frequently enough, I think he only manage to do it twice in 8 weeks. Granted that his opponent are usually very tough, but thats why TL has left points on the board (either by winning or losing though ACE match) and thats also why they dont have a good map score.


While I have been critical of Clem WTL performance in the past, the addition of Elazer was suppose to fix TL holes and transform them into a genuite contender for the title, and he really hasn't deliver either this season.
Splitting vs Scarlett and Spirit is understandable if not a bit unfortunate, but he really needed to go get the points against Rex and Rattata.

There is definitely enough blame to go around, but there are level of expectation. I personally find its harder to accept Clem go 10-8 than Elazer get 5-7.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
November 28 2022 08:54 GMT
#16
Clem is the only player in the top 10 (sorted by wins) to have a sub 60% winrate (56%), lower than freaking Prince and even lower than Reynor's 57%.
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